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geneva_convenience lemmy.ml geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml
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Edit: Article with explanation written by the journalist on Twitter

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astraeus lemmy.ml astraeus@lemmy.ml
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vapeloki lemmy.world vapeloki@lemmy.world
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orc girly lemmy.ml orc_princess@lemmy.ml
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I don't trust European governments considering their support for Israel, but even if that were true, does that give them the right to punish young children?

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jeffep lemmy.world jeffep@lemmy.world
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I don't trust European governments considering their support for Israel, but even if that were true, does that give them the right to punish young children?

They blocked his wife's bank account, I assume she's not a young child.

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*Germany

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orc girly lemmy.ml orc_princess@lemmy.ml
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They blocked his wife's bank account, I assume she's not a young child.

They have young children

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I don't trust European governments considering their support for Israel, but even if that were true, does that give them the right to punish young children?

Does a mother become immune from judicial persecution just because she has a child? Kids aren't a get-out-of-jail-free card.

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orc girly lemmy.ml orc_princess@lemmy.ml
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*Germany

The EU sanctioned him

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Zacryon feddit.org Zacryon@feddit.org
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mathemachristian[he] lemmy.ml mathemachristian@lemmy.ml
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They are using the paragraph they invented to silence journalists presenting an anti-ukraine perspective but the man has been reporting on the palestinian genocide and not ukraine afaik.

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mathemachristian[he] lemmy.ml mathemachristian@lemmy.ml
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Fucking fedditors again boil germany

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geneva_convenience Moderator geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml
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You mean like how weapons exports to Israel stopped because of all of those laws and restrictions? Oh that never happened.

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geneva_convenience Moderator geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml
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This is a complete lie. He was sanctioned for criticism of Israel. He did some reporting for a Russian outlet many many years ago far before the war against Ukraine. He even spoke out against Russia at its start of the war against Ukraine.

Europe Is Sanctioning Critics of Israel and Militarism

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Vinylraupe lemmy.zip Vinylraupe@lemmy.zip
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When they can take money from the weakest they do it. When Papa Netanjahu does something illegal (literal genocide and blocking humanitarian aid) they stay silent.

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Jay101 lemmy.world Jay101@lemmy.world
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Look how they caved in and licking boots of the Trump. The greens who voted against MERCOSUR deal fully supported the US deal. They are more like green washing party than green party and then we have genocide cheer leader Annalena. Nazi just like her grand parents.

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geneva_convenience Moderator geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml
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You could have scrolled down and read the post debunking this propaganda but alas. Your news reading skills are again lacking.

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nocteb feddit.org nocteb@feddit.org
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Pro tip: banning all discourse does not make your post better.

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geneva_convenience Moderator geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml
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Pro tip: banning all discourse does not make your post better.

Nazi propaganda isn't discourse. You don't get to lie to justify starvation of children and genocide. Ironic coming from feddit.org

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Jiral lemmy.org Jiral@lemmy.org
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geneva_convenience Moderator geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml
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I couldn't tell you what his wife did to be sanctioned so there's not much info on that besides the tweet.

On the journalist himself there's this article showing how the EU along with Zionist ran German media sanctioned him for spreading "Hamas propaganda".

EU sanctions German journalist in shocking first over Gaza reporting

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Aceticon lemmy.dbzer0.com Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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NAZI GERMANY, you mean.

Which isn't exactly surprising,

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jeffep lemmy.world jeffep@lemmy.world
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They have young children

Sure, but they are not going to starve as written in the title. That's just a blunt lie. They live in Germany and there are plenty of support options.

If the parents commit a crime related to their bank account, it's reasonable to block these accounts.

The more relevant question is whether anything illegal has happened through his wive's bank account. If so, block it. If not, don't you dare block it. Simple as that

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geneva_convenience Moderator geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml
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NAZI GERMANY, you mean. Which isn't exactly surprising,

Sadly this is EU wide sanctions. The entire EU apparatus has come together to sanction people who speak up against genocide.

That said, the campaign against the journalist was very much done by Zionist propaganda outlets and politicians in Nazi Germany in a coordinated Nazi blood libel campaign.

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mathemachristian[he] lemmy.ml mathemachristian@lemmy.ml
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This particularly sad example of a german "leftist" has been tone policing people that lost friends in the genocide. https://lemmy.ml/post/44887464/24729035

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mathemachristian[he] lemmy.ml mathemachristian@lemmy.ml
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Does a mother become immune from judicial persecution just because she has a child? Kids aren't a get-out-of-jail-free card.

What did the mom do, other than being married to a guy convicted of antizionism?

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geneva_convenience Moderator geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml
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They are using the paragraph they invented to silence journalists presenting an anti-ukraine perspective but the man has been reporting on the palestinian genocide and not ukraine afaik.

Indeed. https://x.com/i/status/2038203613567144354

DoฤŸru rejects the allegations. He confirms that he previously worked for Redfish, a format financed by the Russian broadcaster Ruptly. In the course of the Russian attack on Ukraine, however, he ended the employment relationship.

โ€œI have always criticized that it was an invasion of Ukraine,โ€ he said already in November 2025 in a conversation with Berliner Zeitung.

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unwarlikeExtortion lemmy.ml unwarlikeExtortion@lemmy.ml
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Does a mother become immune from judicial persecution just because she has a child? Kids aren't a get-out-of-jail-free card.

Neither is molesting them enough for a "get into jail free card" or at least a "get impeached free card", seeing all the people on The List.

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m532 lemmy.ml m532@lemmy.ml
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Pro tip: banning all discourse does not make your post better.

Actually, banning all neonazis does make a post better

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mathemachristian[he] lemmy.ml mathemachristian@lemmy.ml
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Sure, but they are not going to starve as written in the title. That's just a blunt lie. They live in Germany and there are plenty of support options. If the parents commit a crime related to their bank account, it's reasonable to block these accounts. The more relevant question is whether anything illegal has happened through his wive's bank account. If so, block it. If not, don't you dare blo...

there lre plenty support options

name them

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jeffep lemmy.world jeffep@lemmy.world
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there lre plenty support options name them

Caritas, Diakonie, churches, several others. You must be trolling at this point

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lad programming.dev sukhmel@programming.dev
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Sure, but they are not going to starve as written in the title. That's just a blunt lie. They live in Germany and there are plenty of support options. If the parents commit a crime related to their bank account, it's reasonable to block these accounts. The more relevant question is whether anything illegal has happened through his wive's bank account. If so, block it. If not, don't you dare blo...

You seem to assume that she did something illegal based on the account being blocked, but that doesn't always work like that

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mathemachristian[he] lemmy.ml mathemachristian@lemmy.ml
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Caritas, Diakonie, churches, several others. You must be trolling at this point

no, i'm german with a disabled wife andstwo kids. I know you are talking out your ass because those institutions don't offer services to poor people in terms off food assistance. The only notable such service is "die tafel" but good luck finding one that isn't booked up for the next two years. There are some "lebensmittelrettung" whatsappgroups but they are first-come first-serve and usually just want to offload their stuff asap which, for people with kids this means you usually get the leftovers of what already are leftovers.

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geneva_convenience Moderator geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml
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Sure, but they are not going to starve as written in the title. That's just a blunt lie. They live in Germany and there are plenty of support options. If the parents commit a crime related to their bank account, it's reasonable to block these accounts. The more relevant question is whether anything illegal has happened through his wive's bank account. If so, block it. If not, don't you dare blo...

https://x.com/hussedogru/status/2038203613567144354

How far-reaching the consequences of the sanctions regime have become, according to the defense, was made clear by lawyer Gorski in an interview with Berliner Zeitung. The lawyer said that his client is not permitted to receive monetary donations and is also not allowed to accept food assistance. When asked whether a neighbor could already make himself liable to prosecution by bringing DoฤŸru bread, Gorski answered: โ€œYes, the neighbor would theoretically make himself liable to prosecution.โ€

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๐™ฒ๐š‘๐šŠ๐š’๐š›๐š–๐šŠ๐š— ๐™ผ๐šŽ๐š˜๐š  programming.dev ChairmanMeow@programming.dev
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What did the mom do, other than being married to a guy convicted of antizionism?

We don't know, as far as I know it hasn't been publicized.

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jeffep lemmy.world jeffep@lemmy.world
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no, i'm german with a disabled wife andstwo kids. I know you are talking out your ass because those institutions don't offer services to poor people in terms off food assistance. The only notable such service is "die tafel" but good luck finding one that isn't booked up for the next two years. There are some "lebensmittelrettung" whatsappgroups but they are first-come first-serve and usually ju...

Caritas und Diakonie geben bei Bedarf z.B. Einkaufsgutscheine raus, weiรŸ ich aus erster Hand. Das ist doch Quatsch, wir kรถnnen doch nicht behaupten hier verhungern Kinder weil ein Konto gesperrt wird.

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jeffep lemmy.world jeffep@lemmy.world
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You seem to assume that she did something illegal based on the account being blocked, but that doesn't always work like that

Did you even read my comment? This is precisely the point. If something illegal happened through her bank account, that would be the only viable reason to block it. If not, there is no justification to block it.

The account blocking has taken a form recently that I condemn, I don't think this should be used in the political discourse.

From the information I could gather about the case, I can't say what happened through her account. There are some vague statements from the Bundespressekonferenz that make it seem like the government/EU takes that position. The family and lawyer claim the opposite.

In this case, I would tend to side with the family until we know more. My point was just that there is quite a stretch between blocking a bank account and starving children.

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iByteABit lemmy.ml iByteABit@lemmy.ml
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Fucking fedditors again boil germany

The 'f' comes from 'Fuhrer'

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HiddenLayer555 lemmy.ml HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml
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EU: Shamelessly tramples on freedom of speech

EU stans: "It would have been against freedom of speech to not take their money, actually"

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lad programming.dev sukhmel@programming.dev
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Did you even read my comment? This is precisely the point. If something illegal happened through her bank account, that would be the only viable reason to block it. If not, there is no justification to block it. The account blocking has taken a form recently that I condemn, I don't think this should be used in the political discourse. From the information I could gather about the case, I can't ...

I read it and didn't get this even from re-reading now

The account blocking has taken a form recently that I condemn

It looks like we were agreeing, but it was hard to say

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Aceticon lemmy.dbzer0.com Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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Sadly this is EU wide sanctions. The entire EU apparatus has come together to sanction people who speak up against genocide. That said, the campaign against the journalist was very much done by Zionist propaganda outlets and politicians in Nazi Germany in a coordinated Nazi blood libel campaign.

Haven't seen a single instance of that which you describe in Portugal, were I live, and the country is currently ruled by the mainstream rightwing party which is basically the party formed by ex-Fascists after the Revolution in 74 which overthrew the Fascist Dictatorship and are definitelly pro-Israel (though most of the population is not, possibly because only a small part of the Press pushes pro-American Propaganda)

It would be a massive scandal around here if they tried to do shit like that - plenty of people who lived under Fascism are still alive and remember the censorship and state police.

Next door Spain too, isn't doing that kind of shit as far as I know, mainly because the government there is center-left (if it was the "center"-right party, I bet they would try it, since they seem to be closer to their Fascist roots than the one in Portugal).

Also haven't heard anything like that from The Netherlands (were I used to live).

Absolutelly, there are several of countries in Europe doing that kind of shit, most notably Germany and Britain, but as far as I can tell they're a minority rather than a majority.

Whilst I don't doubt the likes of Germany (and their agent who heads the EU Commission) would push for that kind of shit at an EU level (and plenty of country would give it lip service given Germany's importance in the EU), A LOT of countries in Europe have societies which are against that censorship because of their values (Scandinavia, The Netherlands) or because they've lived under Fascism not that long ago and many people react badly against anything with a wiff of secret police and censorship (Portugal, Spain, probably Greece).

Also the EU Parliament is properly independent and, being way more representative than the EU Comission (thanks to actually being elected, via Proportional Vote no less) shies away from actual repressive measures like that - vaguelly worded condemning motions, sure, actually censoring people, not really.

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geneva_convenience Moderator geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml
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Haven't seen a single instance of that which you describe in Portugal, were I live, and the country is currently ruled by the mainstream rightwing party which is basically the party formed by ex-Fascists after the Revolution in 74 which overthrew the Fascist Dictatorship and are definitelly pro-Israel (though most of the population is not, possibly because only a small part of the Press pushes ...

I can give you this one off the top of my head, and there's probably many more. There is plenty of EU wide repression against the voices of Palestinians but they barely get any media attention.

Netherlands to expel Palestinian journalist, raising fears of handover to Israelis

A larger article on it: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/11/11/palestinian-journalist-mustafa-ayyash-to-be-extradited-to-austria

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mathemachristian[he] lemmy.ml mathemachristian@lemmy.ml
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Caritas und Diakonie geben bei Bedarf z.B. Einkaufsgutscheine raus, weiรŸ ich aus erster Hand. Das ist doch Quatsch, wir kรถnnen doch nicht behaupten hier verhungern Kinder weil ein Konto gesperrt wird.

Du kannst doch nicht ne vierkรถpfige Familie mit Diakonie und Caritasgutscheinen ernรคhren? Erstmal ist dies eine auรŸerordentliche Situation da die Armut dieser Familie gezielt durch EU Sanktionen herbeigefรผhrt wurde, es also rechtlich alles mรถgliche unklar ist, einschliesslich ob solche Hilfe nicht selbst schon EU Sanktionen verletzt.

Dann sind diese Einkaufsgutscheine in der Regel nur als temporรคre MaรŸnahmen gedacht, von persรถnlichen Spenden finanziert, das ist doch keine Lebensgrundlage wรคhrend man gegen eine internationale Regierung kรคmpfen muss??

Ausserdem gibts es Kinderhunger und Armut in Deutschland, Leute die sterben weil sie keine Krankenversicherung haben etc. Meine Mutter bspw. hatte ein halbverhungerten Sรคugling in der Beratung weil dessen Mutter nicht genug zu essen hatte und deswegen keine Milch produzieren konnte. Gerade unter Leuten die am Rande der Legalitรคt leben mรผssen (wie im Fall Dogru hier) ist die Not teilweise immens. Unser Sozialsystem ist lรคngst nicht so robust wie die meisten Leute die nicht darauf angewiesen sind denken. Sie hat nur sehr gute PR und Kritik daran kommt bei den arroganten Deutschen (aber ich wiederhol mich ja) immer sehr sehr รผbel an als ob man das ganze Land mit den VSA oder schlimmer noch nicht-NATO Lรคndern vergleichen kรถnne....

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merdaverse lemmy.zip merdaverse@lemmy.zip
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He's a German citizen that was accused of "Russian misinformation", which these days means any criticism of EU actions:

DoฤŸru has consistently opposed Russiaโ€™s invasion of Ukraine, a stance he reiterated in public statements. However, his critical reporting on German domestic policies, particularly the suppression of Palestine solidarity actions, drew scrutiny from mainstream media and officials.

The EU rationale links these actions to Russian interests: By amplifying narratives critical of Western policies (e.g., support for Israel or repression of protests), DoฤŸru is said to indirectly aid Moscowโ€™s efforts to sow division in Europe.

Maybe the EU shouldn't be doing the things that are sowing division?? Maybe the criticism is grassroots and not funded by Ruzzia??

So his accounts were frozen in retaliation, and now his wife's accounts were also frozen due to a shared car insurance. It is the typical silencing of critics that Francesca Albanese is also subjected to.

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Aceticon lemmy.dbzer0.com Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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I can give you this one off the top of my head, and there's probably many more. There is plenty of EU wide repression against the voices of Palestinians but they barely get any media attention. Netherlands to expel Palestinian journalist, raising fears of handover to Israelis A larger article on it: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/11/11/palestinian-journalist-mustafa-ayyash-to-be-extradited...

He wasn't expelled, he was arrested under a European Arrest Warrant issued by Austria, something that they could only do because the "crimes" he was accused of were commited in Austria.

Once in Austria he ended up being released by the Austrian authorities, so I guess the Austrian court system still works as it's supposed to in a Democratic country.

From the side of The Netherlands that was bureaucracy doing it's thing and obbeying that legal mechanism rather than that country practicing censorship.

But yeah, I've been quite worried about the European Arrest Warrant system being abused exactly because countries that are sliding into Fascism can use it to project their politics abroad, as well as other kinds of things which had influence in this situation such as the US having put Gaza Now in its list of terrorist organisations and Europe going along with it.

That's not Europe as a whole repressing the voices of Palestinians, or even The Netherlands doing it, it's a broader problem of how certain systems in the EU can be abused by Fascists if they take over in certain European countries as well as the excessive influence of America (which is way more rightwing) in Europe.

As for what the authorities in Austria did, frankly that's not surprising or representative of most of the EU: Austria has had the far-right in power longer than everybody else in Europe and they're pretty much a worse version of Germany, it's just that, because they're much smaller, it's not generally talked about.

It's quite a stretch to go from this to saying that Europe is NAZI.

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He wasn't expelled, he was arrested under a European Arrest Warrant issued by Austria, something that they could only do because the "crimes" he was accused of were commited in Austria. Once in Austria he ended up being released by the Austrian authorities, so I guess the Austrian court system still works as it's supposed to in a Democratic country. From the side of The Netherlands that was bur...

From the side of The Netherlands that was bureaucracy doing itโ€™s thing and obbeying that legal mechanism

Just following orders, if you will.

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BrainInABox lemmy.ml BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
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We don't know, as far as I know it hasn't been publicized.

Guilty until proven innocent, then?

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BrainInABox lemmy.ml BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
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Caritas, Diakonie, churches, several others. You must be trolling at this point

"Are there no poor houses!"

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mathemachristian[he] lemmy.ml mathemachristian@lemmy.ml
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We don't know, as far as I know it hasn't been publicized.

Isn't that deeply disturbing to you? They can enact collective punishment like that and don't even need to publicize why? This is what they keep telling us to slander the democratic peoples republic of korea

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Isn't that deeply disturbing to you? They can enact collective punishment like that and don't even need to publicize why? This is what they keep telling us to slander the democratic peoples republic of korea
  • We don't know if this is collective punishment, you've assumed so but we have no proof of that.

  • I don't mind protecting people's privacy and publicizing what crimes someone has been accused of, since just the accusation can have serious consequences. Imagine someone is accused of terrorism, this gets out to all the neighbours, and finally the judge clears their name; will those neighbours still trust them?

  • The people whose accounts are concerned will receive the reason why the accounts were blocked. They too haven't publicized it.

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