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ThatGuy46475 lemmy.world ThatGuy46475@lemmy.world
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Shouldn’t they both be right

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PugJesus piefed.social PugJesus@piefed.social
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#3 · Quote Reply

Shouldn’t they both be right

Luckily, Bilbo remembered to add "Answer fully"

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remotelove lemmy.ca remotelove@lemmy.ca
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Shouldn’t they both be right

Not if they are both wrong.

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chaogomu lemmy.world chaogomu@lemmy.world
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A box without a lid, no way to check on the cat, and no air holes. That cat is dead. It was always going to die.

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davidgro lemmy.world davidgro@lemmy.world
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Eventually dead, from multiple potential causes. Especially with no lid.

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sepi piefed.social sepi@piefed.social
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#7 · Quote Reply

Bro the cat is dying

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Slovene85 sh.itjust.works Slovene85@sh.itjust.works
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#8 · Quote Reply

The correct answer is yes.

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GreenKnight23 lemmy.world GreenKnight23@lemmy.world
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The correct answer is yes.

wrong again!

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Saapas piefed.zip Saapas@piefed.zip
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A box without a lid, no way to check on the cat, and no air holes. That cat is dead. It was always going to die.

Going to, but there was no given time frame. So you don't know if it is dead, yet

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neatchee piefed.social neatchee@piefed.social
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#11 · (edited) Quote Reply

Nasty hobitses did not mention radioactive particle decay or poison vile vial! Cat is just dead dead dead!! Suffocated, starved, sensory deprived cat!

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WanderingThoughts europe.pub WanderingThoughts@europe.pub
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Shouldn’t they both be right

Alive and death at the same time. It's more like asking if the coin is heads or tails when the coin is still spinning.

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flambonkscious sh.itjust.works flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works
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Bro the cat is dying

Aren't we all?

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Chakravanti monero.town Chakravanti@monero.town
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Going to, but there was no given time frame. So you don't know if it is dead, yet

By the time you ask the question, you are unquestionably sick, sadistic, & cruel because no one lives long enough to be otherwise.

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Goodeye8 piefed.social Goodeye8@piefed.social
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#15 · (edited) Quote Reply

A box without a lid, no way to check on the cat, and no air holes. That cat is dead. It was always going to die.

Are you also dead because you're guaranteed to die eventually? It's not an experiment of the eventual outcome but the observation of the outcome. While you're observing the cat it has to be alive or dead, it can't be both. But when you stop observing the certainty disappears and the cat is no longer dead or alive but both at the same time.

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🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 pawb.social Kolanaki@pawb.social
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#16 · (edited) Quote Reply

Nasty hobitses did not mention radioactive particle decay or poison vile vial! Cat is just dead dead dead!! Suffocated, starved, sensory deprived cat!

Wait... So the radioactive material or poison is meant to keep the cat alive? 🤔

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MinnesotaGoddam lemmy.world HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world
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is the cat a qualifed observer>

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neatchee piefed.social neatchee@piefed.social
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#18 · (edited) Quote Reply

Wait... So the radioactive material or poison is meant to keep the cat alive? 🤔

no, the vial of poison and radioactive particle connected to a device that breaks the vial when it detects the particle's decay is what makes the cat's state probabilistic. Otherwise it's just a cat in a box

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🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 pawb.social Kolanaki@pawb.social
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no, the vial of poison and radioactive particle connected to a device that breaks the vial when it detects the particle's decay is what makes the cat's state probabilistic. Otherwise it's just a cat in a box

Tell that to your imaginary Gollum that claims without that stuff, the cat is dead. lol

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mnemonicmonkeys sh.itjust.works mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works
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is the cat a qualifed observer>

No, it's a conscientious objector

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Bunitonito lemmy.world Bunitonito@lemmy.world
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#21 · (edited) Quote Reply

... It'd be a lot easier to explain this if Schroedinger had a whole pile of boxes with cats in them

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Bunitonito lemmy.world Bunitonito@lemmy.world
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Shouldn’t they both be right

No, the cat is one or the other. Radioactive half-life is the point at which there is a 50/50 chance that any single isotope had decayed, and we usually work around that in classical systems by using large sample sizes (a pile of isotopes, it's easy to see that half of it would have decayed). But for one single isotope we aren't observing (or the cat), we need to look at it in terms of probabilities until we observe it

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Blank feddit.cl caradenada@feddit.cl
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no, the vial of poison and radioactive particle connected to a device that breaks the vial when it detects the particle's decay is what makes the cat's state probabilistic. Otherwise it's just a cat in a box

BTW, the state of the cat being probabilistic is meant to be absurd or paradoxical, since Schrodinger's cat is supposed to be a thought experiment against quantum superposition.

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[object Object] lemmy.ca panda_abyss@lemmy.ca
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A box without a lid, no way to check on the cat, and no air holes. That cat is dead. It was always going to die.

Depends on the size of the box and how long it’s been

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how_we_burned lemmy.zip how_we_burned@lemmy.zip
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What's really in the box are the 12 year old girls Schroedinger used to rape

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SuspiciousCatThing pawb.social SuspiciousCatThing@pawb.social
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#26 · (edited) Quote Reply

What's really in the box are the 12 year old girls Schroedinger used to rape

What

Edit: okay yep wow that's true. Damn. Okay. Today's lesson was not in quantum mechanics.

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SaharaMaleikuhm feddit.org SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org
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What's really in the box are the 12 year old girls Schroedinger used to rape

He in the Trump-Einstein-Files?

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neatchee piefed.social neatchee@piefed.social
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#28 · Quote Reply

BTW, the state of the cat being probabilistic is meant to be absurd or paradoxical, since Schrodinger's cat is supposed to be a thought experiment against quantum superposition.

Yup. Turns out he was super wrong though and existence is just that fucked up at the quantum level

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neatchee piefed.social neatchee@piefed.social
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#29 · Quote Reply

Tell that to your imaginary Gollum that claims without that stuff, the cat is dead. lol

..... it's a sealed box with no holes ..... the cat is very dead or will be very soon

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white_nrdy programming.dev white_nrdy@programming.dev
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#30 · Quote Reply

He in the Trump-Einstein-Files?

Yes and no

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MycelialMass lemmy.world MycelialMass@lemmy.world
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Nasty hobitses did not mention radioactive particle decay or poison vile vial! Cat is just dead dead dead!! Suffocated, starved, sensory deprived cat!

*vial

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Slovene85 sh.itjust.works Slovene85@sh.itjust.works
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#32 · Quote Reply

wrong again!

(⁠╯⁠°⁠□⁠°⁠)⁠╯⁠︵⁠ ⁠┻⁠━⁠┻

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neatchee piefed.social neatchee@piefed.social
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#33 · (edited) Quote Reply

*vial

poison is vile, killing cats is vile, I see absolutely no problem here >.>

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pageflight lemmy.world pageflight@lemmy.world
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#34 · Quote Reply

What Edit: okay yep wow that's true. Damn. Okay. Today's lesson was not in quantum mechanics.

From Forbes:

Quoting directly from Schrödinger’s diaries, Moore revealed that the physicist justified his attraction to girls by considering that, being a genius (which he believed no woman ever could be), he was naturally entitled. “It seems to be the usual thing that men of strong, genuine intellectuality are immensely attracted only by women who, forming the very beginning of the intellectual series, are as nearly connected to the preferred springs of nature as they themselves. Nothing intermediate will do, since no woman will ever approach nearer to genius by intellectual education than some unintellectuals do by birth so to speak.”

TIL. Ugh.

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MinnesotaGoddam lemmy.world HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world
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#35 · (edited) Quote Reply

No, it's a conscientious objector

am i a qualified observer[9]?

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MinnesotaGoddam lemmy.world HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world
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#36 · Quote Reply

Wait... So the radioactive material or poison is meant to keep the cat alive? 🤔

it's meant to keep schroedinger away

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MinnesotaGoddam lemmy.world HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world
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#37 · Quote Reply

... It'd be a lot easier to explain this if Schroedinger had a whole pile of boxes with cats in them

oh god you just made me write the stupidest nerdiest song about schroedinger in about half a second and the chorus goes "and he's got boxes and boxes and boxes of cats/ yeah he's got boxes and boxes and boxes of cats" i feel so ashamed

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Bunitonito lemmy.world Bunitonito@lemmy.world
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oh god you just made me write the stupidest nerdiest song about schroedinger in about half a second and the chorus goes "and he's got boxes and boxes and boxes of cats/ yeah he's got boxes and boxes and boxes of cats" i feel so ashamed

'and half of them are dead / but what about THIS ONE? / nobody knows, nobody knowwwws'

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jafffacakelemmy mander.xyz jafffacakelemmy@mander.xyz
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#39 · Quote Reply

just shake the box up a bit. you'll soon know if the cat inside is alive or dead!?

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MinnesotaGoddam lemmy.world HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world
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#40 · (edited) Quote Reply

'and half of them are dead / but what about THIS ONE? / nobody knows, nobody knowwwws'

YOU HEAR IT TOO

oh gods. i'm going to ask my wife if it's coming out my teeth

edit: she says yes it's coming out your teeth, you're singing

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Mix lemmy.ml MixOpossum@lemmy.ml
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#41 · Quote Reply

Poor kitty

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Xerxos lemmy.ml Xerxos@lemmy.ml
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#42 · Quote Reply

The cat was Schrödingers example how super positions make no sense in complex organisms. It was a counter-example, yet everyone uses it as if there would be a undead cat in the box.

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csolisr hub.azkware.net csolisr@hub.azkware.net
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What's really in the box are the 12 year old girls Schroedinger used to rape

Schrödinger's Discord Kitties, as it were

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