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Without hierarchies/authority figures, the bootlickers would be totally lost. 🤠
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MTZ lemmy.world MTZ@lemmy.world
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UltraMagnus0001 lemmy.world UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world
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Not only authority figures, they like the big strong men of WWE and MMA.

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Beero lemmy.world Beero@lemmy.world
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Closet homo conservatives are creeeeeepy fuuuucks.

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BranBucket lemmy.world BranBucket@lemmy.world
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Fear.

They rally around figures who look strong because they're afraid of losing social status, or feeling xenophobia due to racism, or insecure over economic concerns. As always, everything is projection with these dipshits. They let fear drive them into the sort of groupthink mob they accuse liberals of being.

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MTZ lemmy.world MTZ@lemmy.world
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Fear. They rally around figures who look strong because they're afraid of losing social status, or feeling xenophobia due to racism, or insecure over economic concerns. As always, everything is projection with these dipshits. They let fear drive them into the sort of groupthink mob they accuse liberals of being.

I sorta understand, I guess. But having president whatshisnuts as your figure of manliness is already a joke in itself, but elevating him to a messiah like figure is just crazy.

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BranBucket lemmy.world BranBucket@lemmy.world
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I sorta understand, I guess. But having president whatshisnuts as your figure of manliness is already a joke in itself, but elevating him to a messiah like figure is just crazy.

Helps if your world view is shaped by people who are continually telling you that he's a figure of manliness, while constantly playing off your fear and insecurity for profit and political gain.

EDIT: It's also a very unrealistic standard of what it means to be a man, almost a caricature. It's a masculine ideal rooted in myths of the "common-sense everyman hero" who's wisdom is more valuable than other's knowledge, instincts more accurate than other's intellect, and cunning able to overcome other's skill. He's a man who's anger and will can overcome insurmountable odds, and who's "rough-around-the edges" personality is more attractive than practiced social graces. There's no need for growth or change, because our hero needs nothing more than the innate qualities he already possesses to thrive, and because of that failure is never his fault.

It's the aesthetic of romanticized cowboys, gangsters, renegade cops, and retired spec-ops, a domesticated version of 1980's gritty action-hero masculinity adapted for group membership. It's always framed as bucking authority and going against the grain, even though conformity is required to be one of the "good guys". Being low on the totem pole allows you to gain the virtue of being a simple man with a simple life, or being the trusted sergeant "who really makes things happen around here", but doesn't mean that you're incapable of rising to any occasion just because you have guts. Washboard abs or hard work are only important when they can be used to show how weak and ineffective your opponents are, but what's really important is that you're able to dismiss, demean, deny, and destroy anything that doesn't conform to the right way of doing things to gain the accolades you're due and save yourself the embarrassment of having to admit your hero fantasies aren't true.

Again, it's ridiculous to apply this ideal to the bloated orange, but it's an image he cultivates. His personal mythology is embodying that ideal and gaining massive success in every endeavor because of it. It allows his failings to be used as evidence that he's "just like us", and not as examples of his overall lack of redeeming qualities.

But I wouldn't expect it every really make sense, because at it's core it's just a bullshit justification for getting whatever they want with as little effort as possible.

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hateisreality lemmy.world hateisreality@lemmy.world
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Well now, I just finally figured out the link between a bunch of these assholes in a town and grinder going down.

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Fedizen lemmy.world Fedizen@lemmy.world
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I sorta understand, I guess. But having president whatshisnuts as your figure of manliness is already a joke in itself, but elevating him to a messiah like figure is just crazy.

They call this move the handjob dance.

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merc sh.itjust.works merc@sh.itjust.works
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Because part of conservatism is the idea that hierarchies based on who your parents are, and the fact that you're male, etc. are proper and right.

They want to submit to the people who are correctly above them in the hierarchy, and want the people who are supposed to be below them in the hierarchy to submit to them.

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DarkSideOfTheMoon lemmy.world DarkSideOfTheMoon@lemmy.world
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Because in reality they are betas, they call themselves alphas but they are easily manipulated and they are lap dogs of powerful people

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SnarkoPolo lemmy.world SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world
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They dream of hard peen.

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silver_wings_of_morning feddit.dk silver_wings_of_morning@feddit.dk
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There appears to be some subset of the human species that are natural slaves. They want to be serving some master. Perhaps it's even for their own good. I don't know if there is a random variation of this trait or if it's genetic. All I know is that MAGA are of this natural slave subset.

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scala lemmy.ml scala@lemmy.ml
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They call this move the handjob dance.

Air dicking

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MTZ lemmy.world MTZ@lemmy.world
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They call this move the handjob dance.

I feel 21% less masculine after watching that. But that's probably just an anomaly idk.

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MTZ lemmy.world MTZ@lemmy.world
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Helps if your world view is shaped by people who are continually telling you that he's a figure of manliness, while constantly playing off your fear and insecurity for profit and political gain. EDIT: It's also a very unrealistic standard of what it means to be a man, almost a caricature. It's a masculine ideal rooted in myths of the "common-sense everyman hero" who's wisdom is more valuable th...

That's absurd AF but it actually does make sense in a weird, twisted worldview sort of way. Thanks for the explanation!

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Lushed_Lungfish lemmy.ca Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca
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I love how they are all "don't tread on me" on the bumper sticker, but in reality they are all "step on me harder daddy".

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RadioEthiopiate lemmy.zip RadioEthiopiate@lemmy.zip
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  1. Belief in the concept of an "alpha male" necessitates having a strongman leader.
  2. Bootlickers need a boot to lick.
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MTZ lemmy.world MTZ@lemmy.world
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Belief in the concept of an "alpha male" necessitates having a strongman leader. Bootlickers need a boot to lick.

Both excellent points. ಠ_ಠ

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You're telling me it's all daddy issues?

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RadioEthiopiate lemmy.zip RadioEthiopiate@lemmy.zip
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Because in reality they are betas, they call themselves alphas but they are easily manipulated and they are lap dogs of powerful people

They are literally betas by their own definition of social hierarchy.

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vaultdweller013 sh.itjust.works vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works
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Because they are weak pissants with no nation, creed, or honor simply following the authority who makes them feel good about themselves. It's kinda pathetic ain't it? This is why I force myself to be ambivalent to all authority who aren't part of my kin, kith, or clan by default since you can't manipulate me with funny feelings because I already didn't give a damn.

Or maybe I'm just from a culture that has been dealing with cultists for so long that some of us have built in anti-cult practices. Kinda a chicken and egg scenario.

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zephiriz lemmy.ml zephiriz@lemmy.ml
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Adding to shit post ^.^

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rockettaco37 feddit.nu rockettaco37@feddit.nu
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Because they're too intellectually challenged to think for themselves, so they need somebody to tell them what to believe

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MTZ lemmy.world MTZ@lemmy.world
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Adding to shit post ^.^

Downloaded. Definitely going to use this next time I see some CHUD making wildly sweeping statements about trans ppl.

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Ghostie lemmy.zip Ghostie@lemmy.zip
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Belief in the concept of an "alpha male" necessitates having a strongman leader. Bootlickers need a boot to lick.
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They call this move the handjob dance.

Dave Bautista said it looked like he was jacking off two giraffes.

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Formfiller lemmy.world Formfiller@lemmy.world
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It’s their kink. That’s why Grindr gets overwhelmed every time they gather. I work construction and it’s the same thing there they always rally around one guy (usually a foreman) and compete for his attention. We had a foreman one time who was conventionally handsome an id say pretty cool and I shit you not dudes were talking about how he edges before working out and they all started doing it and then somehow they got a picture of his dick and we’re going around shoving it in eachothers faces and calling eachother gay “because they looked at this guy’s dick”. They started drinking the same energy drinks that he drank. I wish someone would do a psychological study on it is weird. It’s a thing

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RadioEthiopiate lemmy.zip RadioEthiopiate@lemmy.zip
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I don't disagree that it's about status/power/etc., but they're doing it for a group, just not our group. If you wanna be part of the 1% you gotta fuck the 99%.

To paraphrase Carlin, it's a big club and we're not in it.

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mattvanlaw lemmy.world mattvanlaw@lemmy.world
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It’s their kink. That’s why Grindr gets overwhelmed every time they gather. I work construction and it’s the same thing there they always rally around one guy (usually a foreman) and compete for his attention. We had a foreman one time who was conventionally handsome an id say pretty cool and I shit you not dudes were talking about how he edges before working out and they all started doing it a...

Most people feel lost and stay lost, pretending to be on a path others gave them, especially when they don't practice the hard part of life: figuring out how to self actualize

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Ghostie lemmy.zip Ghostie@lemmy.zip
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I don't disagree that it's about status/power/etc., but they're doing it for a group, just not our group. If you wanna be part of the 1% you gotta fuck the 99%. To paraphrase Carlin, it's a big club and we're not in it.
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RadioEthiopiate lemmy.zip RadioEthiopiate@lemmy.zip
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You're not wrong.

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It’s their kink. That’s why Grindr gets overwhelmed every time they gather. I work construction and it’s the same thing there they always rally around one guy (usually a foreman) and compete for his attention. We had a foreman one time who was conventionally handsome an id say pretty cool and I shit you not dudes were talking about how he edges before working out and they all started doing it a...

+1...That is fucked up. Union or non-union construction? The idiots would stand on top of a 12 ft ladder for their foreman.

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FearMeAndDecay literature.cafe FearMeAndDecay@literature.cafe
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It’s their kink. That’s why Grindr gets overwhelmed every time they gather. I work construction and it’s the same thing there they always rally around one guy (usually a foreman) and compete for his attention. We had a foreman one time who was conventionally handsome an id say pretty cool and I shit you not dudes were talking about how he edges before working out and they all started doing it a...

I can’t find it now, but I once read an article that said that bc patriarchy devalues women and our opinions and centers men, it results in straight (and non straight men I suppose) centering other men in their lives. Since only men’s opinions matter, men do everything for the approval of other men, usually the “manliest” man. For example, “trophy wives” are usually more about showing off to other men rather than bc the husband actually wants to be married to or is even super attracted to her. Or some men will pretend to not be attracted to a woman if their male friends have deemed her unattractive. Basically, they have done studies on it and if you search for homosexual desire and patriarchy you can find some (though I can’t find the specific one I’m thinking of)

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Dave Bautista said it looked like he was jacking off two giraffes.

As funny as it sounds I don't know enough about giraffe penises to know how accurate that statement is.

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thermal_shock lemmy.world thermal_shock@lemmy.world
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It’s their kink. That’s why Grindr gets overwhelmed every time they gather. I work construction and it’s the same thing there they always rally around one guy (usually a foreman) and compete for his attention. We had a foreman one time who was conventionally handsome an id say pretty cool and I shit you not dudes were talking about how he edges before working out and they all started doing it a...

FUCKING LMAO 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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Formfiller lemmy.world Formfiller@lemmy.world
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+1...That is fucked up. Union or non-union construction? The idiots would stand on top of a 12 ft ladder for their foreman.

Union but my local is basically a white supremisist gang it’s gross

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Formfiller lemmy.world Formfiller@lemmy.world
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I can’t find it now, but I once read an article that said that bc patriarchy devalues women and our opinions and centers men, it results in straight (and non straight men I suppose) centering other men in their lives. Since only men’s opinions matter, men do everything for the approval of other men, usually the “manliest” man. For example, “trophy wives” are usually more about showing off to ot...

Yes this makes sense and I’ve seen it constantly it’s really weird how much their lives are all about impressing other men

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TipRing lemmy.world TipRing@lemmy.world
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It’s their kink. That’s why Grindr gets overwhelmed every time they gather. I work construction and it’s the same thing there they always rally around one guy (usually a foreman) and compete for his attention. We had a foreman one time who was conventionally handsome an id say pretty cool and I shit you not dudes were talking about how he edges before working out and they all started doing it a...

#AreTheStraightsOK

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scrodumb lemmy.ca scrodumb@lemmy.ca
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Union but my local is basically a white supremisist gang it’s gross

That explains it.

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Formfiller lemmy.world Formfiller@lemmy.world
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That explains it.

Most construction unions operate in this way. They are also about 90% far right whackos. Like ranting about George soros, hunter Biden and vaccines crazy. Weird thing is they are voting themselves out of existence and the union leadership has fostered this culture for generations. We literally have to swear we’re not a communist when we swear in

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