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Powderhorn
beehaw.org
Powderhorn@beehaw.orgJoined: 2023-06-06 |
There will no doubt be shenanigans as this proposal eventually moves forward. Must be nice to get a paid two-week Easter break in a secular country.
Let's just pause here and remember that Trump does not have the power to rule by diktat, but here we are. If that word looks foreign, change the "k" to a "c," and ... er, it looks awfully familiar.
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So… the D’s compromised again, and the R’s are still refusing to comply with the law as it stands. Meanwhile, the only thing not being funded is the department that’s already being funded via alternative means. |
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Powderhorn
beehaw.org
Powderhorn@beehaw.orgJoined: 2023-06-06 |
So… the D’s compromised again, and the R’s are still refusing to comply with the law as it stands. Meanwhile, the only thing not being funded is the department that’s already being funded via alternative means.
I still fail to understand why people think the two parties are substantially different. Both are operating for the same pool of donor cash and will adhere to those wishes. |
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FiniteBanjo
feddit.online
FiniteBanjo@feddit.onlineJoined: 2025-12-23 |
So… the D’s compromised again, and the R’s are still refusing to comply with the law as it stands. Meanwhile, the only thing not being funded is the department that’s already being funded via alternative means.
They're literally keeping Immigration without funding but getting airports up and running again. What exactly are you hardlining against? The concept of plane travel? |
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FiniteBanjo
feddit.online
FiniteBanjo@feddit.onlineJoined: 2025-12-23 |
We can just keep the ICE without funding forever, so I'm cool with this as long as there are no shenanigans around the time of the roll call. |
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They're literally keeping Immigration without funding but getting airports up and running again. What exactly are you hardlining against? The concept of plane travel?
ICE already has funding. So the only thing not getting funding is ACTUAL immigration employees. I’m pretty sure Republicans are fine with that. Funding is the only leverage Democrats have over the executive at this point to get them to honor the law as it stands and NOT shove a bunch of fascist changes into the new omnibus funding bill. They’ve now effectively lost that leverage, so now it’s just a case of the Republicans waiting until something happens that forces the Democrats to approve the big bill in order to not tank in the elections. |
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Powderhorn
beehaw.org
Powderhorn@beehaw.orgJoined: 2023-06-06 |
We can just keep the ICE without funding forever, so I'm cool with this as long as there are no shenanigans around the time of the roll call.
The entirety of DHS was a Nazi tactic. We protect the "homeland." Yeah, well, we'd been doing that just fine until 9/11, and how that failure of intelligence happened is a concern. But it was used as an excuse by the party of small government and individual freedoms to grossly inflate the power of the state at the expense of personal freedoms. And people voted for it again in 2004. |
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Midnitte
beehaw.org
Midnitte@beehaw.org Joined: 2023-06-01 |
They're literally keeping Immigration without funding but getting airports up and running again. What exactly are you hardlining against? The concept of plane travel?
They caved and managed to get none of the reforms at ICE that they've spent weeks trying to be vocal about. No judicial warrants, no body cams, no justice for two murdered Americans. Its wild that they've done this twice - here, and with the ACA subsidies. I dont understand why they bother to fight if they're not even going to take the hit and take a base. |
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FiniteBanjo
feddit.online
FiniteBanjo@feddit.onlineJoined: 2025-12-23 |
They caved and managed to get none of the reforms at ICE that they've spent weeks trying to be vocal about. No judicial warrants, no body cams, no justice for two murdered Americans. Its wild that they've done this twice - here, and with the ACA subsidies. I dont understand why they bother to fight if they're not even going to take the hit and take a base.
I would rather they got no funding rather than their promises in exchange for conditional funding and cameras. |
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The Bard in Green
lemmy.starlightkel.xyz
thebardingreen@lemmy.starlightkel.xyzJoined: 2023-06-07 |
I still fail to understand why people think the two parties are substantially different. Both are operating for the same pool of donor cash and will adhere to those wishes.
I fail to understand why people think a bunch of rational corporatists who primarily want economic stability and who's party contains a number of very progressive voices, some of them QUITE loud and influential are substantially the SAME as a bunch of INSANE RELIGIOUS MANIACS who think the End Times are coming and are literally stripping rights away from trans people, non-white people and women as fast as they can while looting the world around them as quickly as possible. I'm so fed up with it. Are you guys self destructively nuts? Your apathy and "both sides are the samisms" have SUBSTANTIALLY enabled our slide into fascism. I don't care if you disagree. I hold you partially responsible and I'm not gonna stay quiet about it, I grew up around the donor class and they are NOT a monolith. Yeah, they're shitty, out of touch and their wealth makes them crazy, but some of them are just VERY problematic while others are FUCKING NUTS. They ARE NOT THE SAME. I promise you. I know them very well, some of them personally. You know what? I'm wrong, because I DO understand. The right wing media LOVE to say things they know will trickle down to people like you and get you to stay disengaged and not voting. The defeatist attitude and lazy thinking lead to a self sabotaging apathy that helps the Overton window get dragged further right. You're not going to get anything kinder from me than a "Shame on you, sir or madam, for falling for it and DOUBLE shame on you for amplifying it." so tl:dr; STFU cantchangemymind. |
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Powderhorn
beehaw.org
Powderhorn@beehaw.orgJoined: 2023-06-06 |
I fail to understand why people think a bunch of rational corporatists who primarily want economic stability and who's party contains a number of very progressive voices, some of them QUITE loud and influential are substantially the SAME as a bunch of INSANE RELIGIOUS MANIACS who think the End Times are coming and are literally stripping rights away from trans people, non-white people and women...
I'd engage with you, but if your premise is a homeless hippie with decades in journalism shilling for Nazis is your starting point, this is going to be exhausting. |
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The Bard in Green
lemmy.starlightkel.xyz
thebardingreen@lemmy.starlightkel.xyzJoined: 2023-06-07 |
I'd engage with you, but if your premise is a homeless hippie with decades in journalism shilling for Nazis is your starting point, this is going to be exhausting.
It's not and we're not enemies and I've seen your username around and remember your situation. I'm sorta sorry for getting bombastic, but I also have REALLY FUCKING strong feelings about this. I don't think you're shilling for Nazis, I think you're playing right into their hands when you say stuff like that and it just triggers the fuck out of me. Sorry. Mostly sorry. Let's hang out at Burn. I'll share my booze with you, maybe you'll forgive me. |
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Powderhorn
beehaw.org
Powderhorn@beehaw.orgJoined: 2023-06-06 |
It's not and we're not enemies and I've seen your username around and remember your situation. I'm sorta sorry for getting bombastic, but I also have REALLY FUCKING strong feelings about this. I don't think you're shilling for Nazis, I think you're playing right into their hands when you say stuff like that and it just triggers the fuck out of me. Sorry. Mostly sorry. Let's hang out at Burn. I'...
I've seen you before as well and was frankly a bit shocked at the vitriol. You bring the booze, I'll bring the weed, and maybe we can dance it off. One thing I will suggest without irony is not using ALL CAPS for emphasis. |
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The Bard in Green
lemmy.starlightkel.xyz
thebardingreen@lemmy.starlightkel.xyzJoined: 2023-06-07 |
I've seen you before as well and was frankly a bit shocked at the vitriol. You bring the booze, I'll bring the weed, and maybe we can dance it off. One thing I will suggest without irony is not using ALL CAPS for emphasis.
It gets the point across SO WELL though. XD |
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Powderhorn
beehaw.org
Powderhorn@beehaw.orgJoined: 2023-06-06 |
It gets the point across SO WELL though. XD
I wrote headlines for a couple of decades. You end up with things like "200k killed in tsunami." It gets dark quickly. |
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