Attribution is not advertising. Cite the artist. (Cropping out citations is just extra work anyway.)
Image found here:
https://joinfediverse.wiki/Lemmy/en

Attributing the image for this post was a nice touch

This needs to be a pinned post in at least five of the communities I subscribe to.

I almost posted it to several meme comms but wasn't sure if it crossed their rules. I agree, it's a problem.

Is that the reason people crop out artists?

https://lemmus.org/post/21226925

I blocked that user the other day. They spam content, which is intentionally degraded, and they troll people who call them on it. I thought about saying something, but I looked at their history and this is just what they do, all the time. I didn't know they made a whole platform about it. Thanks for the context.

Like, I even get what they're saying. I would not appreciate art if it were watermarked across the middle. I wouldn't hate it, I'd either downvote it or not vote at all. I would consider that trashy, though there's probably a reason (people stealing art and making stickers of it, for example). I just would not upvote it. But what this user is doing is going to the trouble to crop artist names off of comic strips because they believe the artist should not be known. They want the credit for what they do but they don't think others should get credit, and that's the problem.

Yeah but if the artist's website sell merch and accepts donation then it'll be removed as spam if the mods don't particularly like it.

It pisses me off so much when I go to the art museum and see a cool piece that the artist RUINED by putting an advertisement in the bottom corner.

And then the museum has the audacity to put another plaque with an advertisement next to it, too! The nerve on these people.

That sounds like a mod problem, and plagiarism is not an acceptable recourse.
Regardless of mod behavior, this post is about supporting artists and not treating their signatures (for lack of a better term) as ads to be removed.

I'm sorry, the best I can do is write "credit to the artist" because I'm too lazy to look up who did it. Take it or leave it, bucko
/s

Seeing them get ratioed into oblivion is nice

they want you to buy stuff at the store. it's all an ad

I was being facetious
But I had a picture from election truth alliance removed because it had their website on the bottom...
They're a non-profit, not spam.
I don't remove attribution from stuff I share, unless it's really big and has the twitter/Instagram/etc logos all over it... Sometimes it really is an ad.
This is the picture that was removed, btw:.

Lmao what a trash take, thanks for sharing!

I have tagged them so I know to downvote when they remove signatures (sometimes they don't notice, which is amusing)

Ahh, that makes more sense. I must admit, sometimes I do eat the onion.
Yeah, I agree that looks more like data than spam, and social media sites aren't artists.

Yeah, it gave me such a head spin that I felt a meme was earned. Today's small scale WTF news.

well that's why the /s tag was invented... I just feel like it loses something if I label it...
SIKE!
NOT!
(only 90's kids will get that one)

Someone shook my hand and introduced themselves when I first met them. The gall they had to advertise themselves to me like that!

We need to normalize shaming people for casually sharing stolen art. This includes people sharing things they "made" with AI.

I think of it this way, if I publish a work of art I make, if you share it in a way I did not want but still link back to me as the artist, it is going to be really hard for me to be upset with you because even if you stole the art from me you have brought my art to more people's attention so the impact cannot be seen as purely bad.

Which doesn't make it right, I am not advocating for stealing art from artists, I am trying to emphasize that if your attentions are good, when in doubt link to the artist. I mean... why not?

edit also keep in mind that most actually decent ways of identifying how relevant a website is from the perspective of a search engine is how many unique places that are linked to from that website that people also find useful. I think this is a useful rough measurement of relevance and thus in a structural sense the more you link to genuinely relevant and interesting things, the more connected the entire community becomes in a generative way.

Take for example Metafilter, one of the ways you can quantify that Metafilter is an interesting and unique website to read is the degree of interesting and unique links that are placed into context in interesting ways there.

Fuck those cunts, so rude, you just want human connection instead of people trying to make you learn brands (their name) and form brand loyalty (friendship). But if you are interested, I sell Aramaic demonic succubi traps on etsy.

I see no problem with spamming content on Lemmy, especially considering I see less and less content each week here. Although I dont agree with their cropping decision I still respect their opinion. Also I wish they didnt get this much hate here.

Bro i dont care, stop making art if you dont enjoy it, im screenshotting funny pictures and sharing while i poop it's not that serious. Artists are supposed to make art because they feel they have to, not because they want everyone to know their name.

fuck i didn't even see that one.

Bro i dont care

I doubt that. No care = no comment.

And usually I'd take the time to unpack the remaining drivel, but instead I think I'll leave you with another work of art to ponder.

Here's Tim Minchin with a beat poem called Mitsubishi Colt

Cool bro im sure tim minchin really appreciates you citing him, they would stop making art if it wasn't for you

Buying a copy of the Mona Lisa from the gift shop is a lot cheaper than buying the actual Mona Lisa. 😌

I think that's really all anyone is asking for.

that's because you're in France, go to Britain and you can take whatever you want for free. that's how it all got there anyways

I went to the Guggenheim and bought nothing from the gift shop, but I did buy the above image as a fridge magnet from a street vendor outside of it. Much more affordable, and absolutely worth it.

You're a fucking loser

Yeah and youre a winner because you cite the artist on a meme lmao

lol. I also have apparently had that user already tagged as toxic.

Yeah, I am lol

People need food, shelter, and healthcare to live. Many artists are denied these things because they choose to provide us with entertainment instead of feeding the capitalist machinery. That is in fact very serious.

I mean I can't wait for the paintings in 100 years to be AI generated with the person who wrote the prompt having their snap chat qr Code or tiktok handle in the corner.

Brother it don't have to be that complicated. Only a piece of shit tries to steal someone else's work. Don't be a piece of shit. Not that difficult.

Brother it's digital data it's not stealing it's copying they don't lose the piece of art they made when i copy and send it to a cousin for shits and gigs

There was enough art to last anyone a thousand lifetimes before any of us were born, nobody is doing the world a favor by not getting a real job and sitting at home making art

Artists are supposed to make art because they feel they have to, not because they want everyone to know their name.

Hi, artist here. That part is true, I do create stuff just because I like to. And it's great!

I do feel very fortunate that no law requires me to publish this stuff. Publishing works is a surprisingly complicated process that a lot of people don't really think about. There's a lot of surprising sources of headaches; for example, some people have very strange ideas about how art should be distributed.

What are you talking about? No one's worried about you copying stuff. Have you not been paying attention to anything in this thread? The contention here is people editing the art to remove the artist signature. You're altering the art to take away their name, you'd be stealing it at that point. You do that you're a piece of shit. Is that what you are arguing for or not? If not I'm not sure what you're arguing for here.

It better be a dancing qr code with their handle that changes places between the 4 corners every second, too

Getting a job doing what? We already have way more than enough people for just about everything. What I want to see more of is art.

Wow. Gatekeeping art? Go fuck yourself

Who's gatekeeping?? Im not the one talking about banning posts that aren't cited or whatever

Yes, that's what im arguing for, im gonna crop whatever i want and send it to people and it doesn't hurt anybody and you can cry about it all you want. If you love an artist you can go to their website and buy something from them nobody is stopping you and that helps the artist way more than making sure you include their signature in a screenshot

Then you can buy the art nobody is stopping you, not anyone else's problem if an artist makes art nobody wants to buy and they need to get a job instead

Whelp. Makes you a piece of shit then.

How to tell everyone you haven't made a single thing in your worthless life:

Artists are supposed to make art because they feel they have to

Then you can buy the art nobody is stopping you

Says the person trying to make it harder for me to find the artist that I should be buying from.