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CEO of America’s largest public hospital system says he’s ready to replace radiologists with AI
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technocrit lemmy.dbzer0.com technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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Clent lemmy.dbzer0.com Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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if the test comes back negative, it’s wrong only about 3 times out of 10,000,”

This is a hard one. While this could lead to an increase in the frequency of body scans, it's being said by a healthcare ceo so I kind of need him to play a game a Luigi's Mansion before I can listen to him.

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TropicalDingdong lemmy.world TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-29
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if the test comes back negative, it’s wrong only about 3 times out of 10,000,” This is a hard one. While this could lead to an increase in the frequency of body scans, it's being said by a healthcare ceo so I kind of need him to play a game a Luigi's Mansion before I can listen to him.

if the test comes back negative, it’s wrong only about 3 times out of 10,000,”

So there-in lies the problem, which is that things like cancer, are already rare. Say there are 6 real instances of cancer in 10,000. Say the system says 20 are cancer, 3 actually are, and it missed 3. That means it was only positively correct at a rate of 50%, even though its overall accuracy is well over 99%

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phoenixarise lemmy.world phoenixarise@lemmy.world
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Have fun with those malpractice lawsuits!

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frustrated_phagocytosis fedia.io frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io
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This the same AI that was able to suss out people's race from metadata or whatever and used that to make poor diagnostic decisions?

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gravitas_deficiency sh.itjust.works gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works
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#6 · Quote Reply

It’s about that time, eh chaps?

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SaveTheTuaHawk lemmy.ca SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca
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Before Lemmy gets their man buns in a knot....pathologists and radiologists make a huge number of mistakes.

83% of radiologists in a study did not see a gorilla pasted into an xray image.

Pathologists have errors as high as 11%.

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very_well_lost lemmy.world very_well_lost@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-30
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It’s about that time, eh chaps?

You almost have to admire the balls on any healthcare exec still willing to be so brazen with their enshitification...

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Grass sh.itjust.works Grass@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-09-30
#9 · Quote Reply

and the people are ready to replace him with... dead him

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LurkingLuddite piefed.social LurkingLuddite@piefed.social
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Before Lemmy gets their man buns in a knot....pathologists and radiologists make a huge number of mistakes. 83% of radiologists in a study did not see a gorilla pasted into an xray image. Pathologists have errors as high as 11%.

and "AI" is NOT something that learns from its mistakes. ever.

This is from someone who could program together a radiologist "AI" within a week that could beat the average radiologist.

The problem is not the hit %. It's the accountability chain and the economy.

Regulate "AI" properly, and have a healthy safety net that would leave a radiologist comfortable after a layoff, and we could start to talk.

Before then? Fuck you.

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Drusas fedia.io Drusas@fedia.io
Joined: 2024-08-16
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Before Lemmy gets their man buns in a knot....pathologists and radiologists make a huge number of mistakes. 83% of radiologists in a study did not see a gorilla pasted into an xray image. Pathologists have errors as high as 11%.

I had three radiologists look at CTs of my lungs and say they were (more or less) normal. I showed those same images to a pulmonologist and she immediately saw the problem. The serious problem. And after she showed me how she identified it, I started to be and to recognize the pattern as well.

The radiologists couldn't.

🤷👋

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Drusas fedia.io Drusas@fedia.io
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It’s about that time, eh chaps?

I'd agree if I'd had more useful experiences with radiologists.

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