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commander lemmy.world commander@lemmy.world
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jdr lemmy.ml jdr@lemmy.ml
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We have Hurd the GNUs

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RiderExMachina lemmy.ml RiderExMachina@lemmy.ml
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mmmm sopuli.xyz mmmm@sopuli.xyz
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I so wish Gentoo/BSD was a thing once again.

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furry toaster lemmy.blahaj.zone protogen420@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2025-01-04
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I so wish Gentoo/BSD was a thing once again.

even debian dropped the attempt at using FreeBSD's kernel, it is just too alien to Linux, Hurd in the other hand pretty much tries as best as it can to be compatible with Linux while keeping it blob free

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pastermil sh.itjust.works pastermil@sh.itjust.works
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We have Hurd the GNUs

hurdur

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ATS1312 lemmy.dbzer0.com ATS1312@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-06-04
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I so wish Gentoo/BSD was a thing once again.

If you want, you could always start it up yourself, put the kernel and any odd deps in a portage overlay, and see what happens. I for one welcome the project and would enthusiastically support its return.

Though I recommend switching to the hardenedBSD kernel instead. It would just feel... Right seeing that come home.

In theory, it should be fine with a non-systemd init. OpenRC is tradition in Gentoo after all, and OpenRC is from BSD.

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ATS1312 lemmy.dbzer0.com ATS1312@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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even debian dropped the attempt at using FreeBSD's kernel, it is just too alien to Linux, Hurd in the other hand pretty much tries as best as it can to be compatible with Linux while keeping it blob free

Too alien to Linux, or too alien to SystemD?

I can't be the only one who remembers those switches happening Very rapidly one after another for Debian.

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mmmm sopuli.xyz mmmm@sopuli.xyz
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Too alien to Linux, or too alien to SystemD? I can't be the only one who remembers those switches happening Very rapidly one after another for Debian.

I can't speak for the Debian case since I didn't knew about it much but afaik on the Gentoo side it was because its hard dependency on Bashisms (and Bash as a whole) so it needed many hacks and stuff to get around of those and make it work on the BSDs.

That it didn't work because "it is just too alien to Linux" isn't quite true because it did work, it's just that it needed too much work to keep it going with Portage as it was (and is).

At that time systemd didn't even exist so no, it wasn't because of systemd.

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bufalo1973 piefed.social bufalo1973@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-09-01
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Too alien to Linux, or too alien to SystemD? I can't be the only one who remembers those switches happening Very rapidly one after another for Debian.

Wasn't Debian Devuan a Debian without systemd?

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basiliscos lemmy.ml basiliscos2@lemmy.ml
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Did somebody actually tried it? On real hardware? How it is?

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furry toaster lemmy.blahaj.zone protogen420@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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I can't speak for the Debian case since I didn't knew about it much but afaik on the Gentoo side it was because its hard dependency on Bashisms (and Bash as a whole) so it needed many hacks and stuff to get around of those and make it work on the BSDs. That it didn't work because "it is just too alien to Linux" isn't quite true because it did work, it's just that it needed too much work to keep...

couldn't it just use gnu userland?

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