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Jürgen Habermas (1929–2026): The philosopher who chose the state
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powerstruggle sh.itjust.works powerstruggle@sh.itjust.works
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To understand the content of Habermas’ work—and why the limitations of his thought carry consequences that extend far beyond academic philosophy—one must begin not with the man but the political environment in which his life and career unfolded. Habermas was 15 when the Nazi regime collapsed. West Germany after 1945 was a society haunted by its fascist past, administered in many cases by men who had participated in and accommodated themselves to the Nazi regime, and ideologically committed to a ferocious anti-communism that not only precluded a genuine democratic reckoning but also covered up and legitimized Nazi crimes.

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Paragone lemmy.world Paragone@lemmy.world
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Interesting article, NOT properly-represented by that single-paragraph quote, above..


Habermas then got it nearly right, in generalizing from "national" identity, to "the state", but that's like saying a hand-thrown-wooden-glider got it "nearly" right in being a powered aircraft with passengers & cargo..

Universal-scope, NOT state-scope, or national-scope, is the right framing for motivations, for solving-needed-works, for seeing the difference between evil & good, etc.

Circle-of-Concern vs Circle-of-Influence kind of thing, you know?

Make the UNDERSTANDING be universe-centered.

Make the acting be state-centered ( simply because you can't act outside that, without boundary-violating others, can you? .. oh, indirect-action, fine, but you can't just arbitrarily build schools, hospitals, roads, or police-stations in other-states, you see. )

That he made the Circle-of-Concern's framing be state, means that he threw-away greater-scope perspective..


Interesting..

Cultures are 1-step-removed from nature/objectivity.

Ideologies are 2-steps-removed from nature/objectivity.

Ideologies/"religions" are: self-centered, identity-anchoring, axiom-rooted, falsification-disallowing assumption-rivers that awarenesses form themselves into embodying.

( there's no inherent-in-that requirement for any particular "center", "deity" or not )

Theres definitely a difference between mere-culture vs outright-ideology, though that boundary is blurry.

The more "powerful" the identity, however, the more "valid" one feels, & there's a problem: ideology has more "power" than mere-culture..

So, our animal-wiring fights against objectivity, for sake of powerful-identity, & therefore powerful "validity" over others..

we have to outgrow that..


Habermas disallowed the unconscious-mind's being its-own world, with its own rules .. as the article-writer apparently does, too..

The cause of all such is unconscious-mind's ego-"power"-games, & -myth.

Anyone who's ignoring that, in order to frame everything in "economic classes" or "social classes" or "political process" is seeing "makeup", but NOT seeing the undertow-in-the-"river" that is doing the actual-drowning-of-entire-civilizations.

Superficial, & not worthy of respect..

False-framing: "class-system feudalism produces these effects as a result of its abuses"

Proper-framing: "unconscious-mind's ego's feudalisms produce class-systems as a means of enforcing its ego-lordhood's abuses, academic-class-system, financial-class-system, economic-class-system, 'royalty' class-system, religious class-systems, etc, all of them."

Some class-systems are valid ( classes of aircraft, classes of pilot, classes of engineer, classes of doctor, classes of learning-a-subject, etc ), some class-systems are just "churches" in disguise ( you were "born middle-class", or "born working-class", etc ) with your life's "status" "defined" by your birth?

Idiocy.

Status need be earned, same as certifications.

No money-born "superiority".

Education's enforcing this class-scam, too: instead of getting the individual children to decide whether they belong in the trades or in the offices, they let parent's class decide that on the children's lives??

Wrong, wrong, wrong.

( further, children NEED to experience both those sides, in order to respect the "other side" of what they put their own life in. No experience-induced-understanding? how can there be actual respect for it, then? Don't ask dogs to "protect" cat-nature: they don't experience it, they CAN'T protect it, only displace it.

Same is true of humankind.

We have to do cross-training, in order to have experience induced understanding of other-categories of human-meaning, human-experiencing, etc.

Pretending, mere-idea, mere-symbol, never was good-enough! )

ALL political-leadership criminally-failes, in the end: political-motivation is the wrong basis for preventing criminality!!

It has to be prevented at the systems level: NO DarkTriad person is allowed to be eligible for civil authority.

Fail to put that in-place, & rely on "political will", & you're accessory-to-the-eventual-crime.

It's wrong-CATEGORY of "answer".


Ah: another folly we're prone-to..

Too-shallow development, & then standing on .. well-established-artifice.

Apparently he was never alone long-enough, to dig deeply-enough, into meanings, to make him immune to politically being "owned"..

You can't get past the "meanings" you were "fed" while growing-up, unless you go sooo totally-alone, sooo long, that you're able to force-dismantle your own unconscious-mind's programming!

That takes decades, not mere-years!

& it seems to require some significant solitude, too..

( grrr How I wish that monastery-retreats were normal for people, & available non-denominationally!

What you can understand in a few years of quality solitude, you CAN'T get in the crush-of-political-pushings-and-distractions that for-profit-entities are saturating all our lives with! )


False-reasoning being pushed by the article.

Say you wake up to discover that you've got cancer. Not metastasized, yet, but it's malignant, & it's going to holocaust your life, unless you wage WAR, NOW.

Is it moral for you to wage war??

Ideology pretends that war is "inherently" good or "inherently" evil.

Want to know what Tibetan Buddhism said about that, over a 1000 years ago?

Whether war is "good" or "evil" depends on the nature of the observer!

AwakeSoul concentrating on annihilating-ignorance/evil .. that's Good, right?

Here's what that looks-like from supreme-meditation's perspective:

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Manjushri+thangka&t=fpas&iax=images&ia=images

Red-shifted Buddha, holding a sword made of wisdom-flame-piercing-ignosis/evil in his left-brain/right-body hand, & holding a blossom bearing BEing the meanings of scripture, in his right-brain/left-body hand.

OK, so what does the SAME concentration look-like, from demon's perspective?

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Yamantaka+thangka&iar=images&t=fpas

Blue-shifted Buddha, ultra-violence incarnate, countless limbs ( time-compression ), countless weapons, fangs, claws, EVERYTHING representing violence & aggression.

Why?

Because it is wisdom DESTROYING evil/ignosis.

WAR, iow.

OK, so is it moral to be war?

Against evil, yes.

& the moral-relativists who are adamant that no, violence is inherently evil and never can be relative because their moral relativism has decreed that to be absolute .. can go take their gaslighting, shove it, & go eat rocks.

IF YOU COME-ACROSS SOMEONE TORTURE-MURDERING A HELPLESS POPULATION, AND YOU WON'T WAR AGAINST THAT, YOU ARE ACCOMPLICE TO THEIR MURDERING.

Same as if you WON'T war against cancer, you're helping it.

One of the polluters of the Jewish scriptures adulterated it to indicate that if one found one's daughter drowning in a well on sabbath, that one had the obligation to let her life be destroyed, to protect the "sanctity" of sabbath.

Wrong framing.

No COMMERCE, not no-effort, on Sabbath.

Save all the lives you can, on sabbath!

Tolerate no commercialization of YOUR sabbath.

( the idiocy of pretending that YOUR birth's day-of-week had nothing to do with YOUR 7-day-cycle, & therefore sabbath, also was an adulteration: 1/7th of humankind is supposed to be having sabbath each day of the week, with no "universal" weekends, thereby reducing rush-hour congestion, making hospitals equally-reliable every day of the week, etc! )

So, humans have sabbaths, but institutions just work, though with different people on different days-of-the-week.

Civil-infrastructure becomes steady, then, while human-lives orient to participating in intermeshing 7ths of the world, each 7th carrying its own part of the world's work.

War absolutely is justified, defensively, & defensively means against evil's aggressions, ANYwhere.

Accommodating the Rwandan holocaust, "machete season" of about 1 MILLION people .. was evil.

We ought have got right in there, & stopped that.

Accommodating Natanyahu's "Israel"'s holocausting of Palestinians.. equally criminal.

( Israeli military-official admitting that the Palestinian officals' death-counts are broadly accurate .. to Israeli journalists. That SHOWS that the "only-1/10th-is-valid" position that Netanyahu's "Israel" had been maintaining, was gaslighting. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/jan/30/israel-military-gaza-death-toll-broadly-accurate )

Universal-framing removes ideology's "blinders", and its "I'm not responsible" position.

Universal-framing means we ARE responsible for our inactions, our actions, our biases, etc.

NOT fighting male-supremacism IS accommodating it.

NOT fighting racial-supremacism IS accommodating it.

NOT fighting political/"religious" supremacism IS accommodating it.

Exactly as the t'hangka paintings depict: the SAME concentration is viewed as eternally-peaceful ally by 1 kind of observer, but seen as ULTRA-VIOLENT ANNIHILATION by demon-perspective, & that means bluntly that warring against evil means not-warring on good.

& warring-on-good means not-warring-against-evil.

You CAN'T be accommodating of both true-good & true-evil: they're mutually-exclusive states!

The existence of 1 precludes the existence of the other!

War is inherent between mutually-exclusive states!

The moral-relativists who disallow that are committing intellectual-fraud.

Disallow war-against-rabies, & see what the results are, of that, in the lives that rabies demolishes.

NOT warring against rabies IS helping it war successfully against lives.

Ideologies can be mental-rabies.

Do what's objectively-required in order to provide lives with as much of Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs as one can.

Protecting their-lives, at basic level, is obligation.

Even if that means getting in harm's way, to break militarized-"rabies".

All the people who hold that NOTHING EVER justifies war?

Incompetent.


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