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antonim
lemmy.world
antonim@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-03 |
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notsure
fedia.io
notsure@fedia.ioJoined: 2023-07-02 |
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spongebue
lemmy.world
spongebue@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-10 |
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And the award for the biggest non-sequitur in Internet history goes to... This guy! |
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breakingcups
lemmy.world
breakingcups@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-25 |
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Now explain why you think that's relevant to the article you commented on. |
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notsure
fedia.io
notsure@fedia.ioJoined: 2023-07-02 |
Now explain why you think that's relevant to the article you commented on.
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notsure
fedia.io
notsure@fedia.ioJoined: 2023-07-02 |
And the award for the biggest non-sequitur in Internet history goes to... This guy!
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AngryishHumanoid
lemmy.world
AngryishHumanoid@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-12-31 |
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I don't want to do the sir this is a Wendy's thing, but damn this is screaming for a Sir this is a Wendy's kinda thing. |
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notsure
fedia.io
notsure@fedia.ioJoined: 2023-07-02 |
I don't want to do the sir this is a Wendy's thing, but damn this is screaming for a Sir this is a Wendy's kinda thing.
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notsure
fedia.io
notsure@fedia.ioJoined: 2023-07-02 |
People with lotsa money tried to make truth disappear....are you all fucking nutz? |
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becausechemistry
piefed.social
becausechemistry@piefed.social Joined: 2025-12-24 |
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“I am so smart, the answer is obvious. So I won’t tell you. If you don’t get it, you’re not as smart as me.” 🙄 |
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LEM 1689
lemmy.sdf.org
lemmie689@lemmy.sdf.orgJoined: 2023-06-27 |
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In old Aztec lands, it was a crime to pass counterfeit cocoa beans. They used them as a medium of exchange. |
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Gork
sopuli.xyz
Gork@sopuli.xyz Joined: 2023-06-01 |
Should I stop using archive.ph then? I mostly used it because it's a lot faster than archive.org, which is a bit clunkier to use. |
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Innerworld
lemmy.world
Innerworld@lemmy.worldJoined: 2026-01-16 |
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Unpleasant truth |
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spongebue
lemmy.world
spongebue@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-10 |
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Clicks on a website and absolutely nothing else |
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JohnnyCanuck
lemmy.ca
JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.caJoined: 2023-07-30 |
People with lotsa money tried to make truth disappear....are you all fucking nutz?
It sounds like archive.today is behaving poorly. As far as I know, Wikipedia isn't exactly "big money". If you know different on either front, can you please explain. Otherwise your comments are meaningless. |
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AngryishHumanoid
lemmy.world
AngryishHumanoid@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-12-31 |
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But like, first you seem to be upset at the concept of money, which is silly on the face of it. Second, which part of money exchanging hands are you implying? The original DDoS attack or the blacklisting? And in either case, how is the exchanging of money the primary aspect of the story? |
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notsure
fedia.io
notsure@fedia.ioJoined: 2023-07-02 |
“I am so smart, the answer is obvious. So I won’t tell you. If you don’t get it, you’re not as smart as me.” 🙄
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notsure
fedia.io
notsure@fedia.ioJoined: 2023-07-02 |
Clicks on a website and absolutely nothing else
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FauxLiving
lemmy.world
FauxLiving@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-02-10 |
“I am so smart, the answer is obvious. So I won’t tell you. If you don’t get it, you’re not as smart as me.” 🙄
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notsure
fedia.io
notsure@fedia.ioJoined: 2023-07-02 |
In old Aztec lands, it was a crime to pass counterfeit cocoa beans. They used them as a medium of exchange.
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notsure
fedia.io
notsure@fedia.ioJoined: 2023-07-02 |
But like, first you seem to be upset at the concept of money, which is silly on the face of it. Second, which part of money exchanging hands are you implying? The original DDoS attack or the blacklisting? And in either case, how is the exchanging of money the primary aspect of the story?
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Hubi
feddit.org
Hubi@feddit.orgJoined: 2024-06-22 |
Should I stop using archive.ph then? I mostly used it because it's a lot faster than archive.org, which is a bit clunkier to use.
AFAIK archive.is , .ph and .today are all just different domains for the same site. |
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becausechemistry
piefed.social
becausechemistry@piefed.social Joined: 2025-12-24 |
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There is nothing as hilarious as someone trying to use fancy words but missing pretty basic concepts of the language. You’re trying to sound smart. It’s making you sound dumber. |
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Quetzalcutlass
lemmy.world
Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-08-02 |
People with lotsa money tried to make truth disappear....are you all fucking nutz?
Archive.today became non-citable the moment it began altering archived webpages, regardless of anything else. |
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notsure
fedia.io
notsure@fedia.ioJoined: 2023-07-02 |
There is nothing as hilarious as someone trying to use fancy words but missing pretty basic concepts of the language. You’re trying to sound smart. It’s making you sound dumber.
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LEM 1689
lemmy.sdf.org
lemmie689@lemmy.sdf.orgJoined: 2023-06-27 |
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Humans believe things. We're very symbolic animals. |
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Widdershins
lemmy.world
Widdershins@lemmy.worldJoined: 2025-04-04 |
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Money you can fuck? I don't see why not. Not entirely sure how it'll change hands moving forward but it's time to shake things up. |
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AngryishHumanoid
lemmy.world
AngryishHumanoid@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-12-31 |
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I asked 3 questions. You ignored all 3 and answered with another question also not relevant to the post. You are not to be taken seriously. |
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XLE
piefed.social
XLE@piefed.social Joined: 2025-06-23 Banned |
The top piece of evidence (not in any special order) was redacted due to "revealing personal information". Other subsequent pieces of evidence were retained but names were replaced with abbreviations
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becausechemistry
piefed.social
becausechemistry@piefed.social Joined: 2025-12-24 |
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You should try yelling “money” again, that’ll definitely convince people. Of. Well, whatever it is you’re trying to convince us of. |
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XLE
piefed.social
XLE@piefed.social Joined: 2025-06-23 Banned |
Should I stop using archive.ph then? I mostly used it because it's a lot faster than archive.org, which is a bit clunkier to use.
GhostArchive came up in discussions. |
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Greyscale
lemmy.sdf.org
greyscale@lemmy.sdf.orgJoined: 2023-06-11 |
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jsyk your posts here just hurt the point you're trying to make. I strongly recommend you delete and revisit these thoughts and restructure them so you're not being told "sir this is a wendies". |
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spongebue
lemmy.world
spongebue@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-10 |
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Mmmk, better abandon this "money" experiment. Surprised it only lasted thousands of years, but I'm sure human nature will adapt |
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Goodlucksil
lemmy.dbzer0.com
Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2025-08-15 |
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AT's ddos is because of personal reasons. |
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fonix232
fedia.io
fonix232@fedia.io Joined: 2023-06-13 |
It sounds like archive.today is behaving poorly. As far as I know, Wikipedia isn't exactly "big money". If you know different on either front, can you please explain. Otherwise your comments are meaningless.
Dunno if I would call it "behaving poorly". The blogger in question doxxed the owner/maintainer of Archive.today who in return doxxed the blogger. To me this sounds more like eye for an eye FAFO. |
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CIA_chatbot
lemmy.world
CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-19 |
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Money, an invented concept, because the difficulty of trading 2 cows for 500 bushels of grain to a farmer 100 km away induced people to come up with a better system than bartering you mean? This is seriously some I’m 13 and this is deep bullshit |
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ilinamorato
lemmy.world
ilinamorato@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-09-27 |
Dunno if I would call it "behaving poorly". The blogger in question doxxed the owner/maintainer of Archive.today who in return doxxed the blogger. To me this sounds more like eye for an eye FAFO.
If it's altering snapshots, it's not a reliable archive. Simple as that. |
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This is fine🔥🐶☕🔥
lemmy.world
TheBat@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-30 |
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antonim
lemmy.world
antonim@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-03 |
Should I stop using archive.ph then? I mostly used it because it's a lot faster than archive.org, which is a bit clunkier to use.
Well, for accessing paywalled articles .org is no replacement for .ph/.today, sadly. But it's advisable to use it as little as possible, it seems using visitors for DDoS'ing the blog is still going on. |
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JohnnyCanuck
lemmy.ca
JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.caJoined: 2023-07-30 |
Dunno if I would call it "behaving poorly". The blogger in question doxxed the owner/maintainer of Archive.today who in return doxxed the blogger. To me this sounds more like eye for an eye FAFO.
That's inappropriate, childish, and unprofessional. It makes them untrustworthy for citations. There are better ways of handling it. If altering snapshots for a grudge isn't your definition of "behaving poorly" for a site archiving the state of the Internet, then you must not think they have to be an accurate source of information. If they're not an accurate source of information, then Wikipedia has no obligation to allow them to be used in citations, and they should remove such citations. |
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Troy
lemmy.ca
troyunrau@lemmy.caJoined: 2023-06-12 |
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Went to a strip club once and the stripper was handing out fake $69 bills with her image on it and a link to her OnlyFans... |
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fonix232
fedia.io
fonix232@fedia.io Joined: 2023-06-13 |
That's inappropriate, childish, and unprofessional. It makes them untrustworthy for citations. There are better ways of handling it. If altering snapshots for a grudge isn't your definition of "behaving poorly" for a site archiving the state of the Internet, then you must not think they have to be an accurate source of information. If they're not an accurate source of information, then Wikipedi...
Has the accuracy of the snapshots actually changed based on this edit? After all, if it's factual information being presented... I do agree that it raises the issue of what other modifications there may be, and it IS childish, but so is going after a person who provides a good service and wants to remain anonymous while doing so. All I'm saying is that while I do not agree with the actions, I also am not saying I don't understand the reasoning behind. |
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silence7
slrpnk.net
silence7@slrpnk.net Joined: 2023-06-11 |
GhostArchive came up in discussions.
The problem that web.archive.org and ghostarchive.org both have is that they regularly fail to archive content |
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JohnnyCanuck
lemmy.ca
JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.caJoined: 2023-07-30 |
Has the accuracy of the snapshots actually changed based on this edit? After all, if it's factual information being presented... I do agree that it raises the issue of what other modifications there may be, and it IS childish, but so is going after a person who provides a good service and wants to remain anonymous while doing so. All I'm saying is that while I do not agree with the actions, I a...
Yes! Quite literally, yes. They're supposed to be an archive of what is on other sites. It doesn't matter if the original site was, right, wrong, complete, incomplete, accurate, inaccurate, factual, unfactual, etc. If they change things, they're editorializing and are no longer an archive, they're new content - which is not the purpose people use them for.
That's literally the point. It doesn't matter how much you "understand the reasoning" (though you also think it's childish and don't agree with the actions). You can use it if you want to, no one is stopping you. The point is Wikipedia can't trust it as a source of archived data and has every right to ban it. |
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AmbitiousProcess (they/them)
piefed.social
AmbitiousProcess@piefed.social Joined: 2025-06-06 |
Should I stop using archive.ph then? I mostly used it because it's a lot faster than archive.org, which is a bit clunkier to use.
Yep, also owned by archive.today. As is archive.is, archive.fo, archive.li, archive.md, and archive.vn. |
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quantumcrop
lemmy.today
quantumcrop@lemmy.today Joined: 2025-06-29 |
Money, an invented concept, because the difficulty of trading 2 cows for 500 bushels of grain to a farmer 100 km away induced people to come up with a better system than bartering you mean? This is seriously some I’m 13 and this is deep bullshit
Km are just a made up unit, the only unit found in nature is football fields. |
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XLE
piefed.social
XLE@piefed.social Joined: 2025-06-23 Banned |
The problem that web.archive.org and ghostarchive.org both have is that they regularly fail to archive content
Understandable. Archive.today is really good at getting website content, but their methods are proprietary and a little dubious. If you just want to save things locally, I believe Single File is really good. It downloads the page that you see on your browser, as you see it. |
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CIA_chatbot
lemmy.world
CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-19 |
Km are just a made up unit, the only unit found in nature is football fields.
Just like murican Jesus intended brother! |
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lad
programming.dev
sukhmel@programming.dev Joined: 2023-07-03 |
Archive.today became non-citable the moment it began altering archived webpages, regardless of anything else.
This is peak incompetence, I think, but it maybe shows that they see their mission not in preserving credible sources, but in breaking paywalls or something else entirely that is not forfeited by petty revenge edits This is still my number one fear to hear about any archive, because altering the data when done properly may go undetected and lead people to wrong conclusions |
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pivot_root
lemmy.world
pivot_root@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-31 |
Dunno if I would call it "behaving poorly". The blogger in question doxxed the owner/maintainer of Archive.today who in return doxxed the blogger. To me this sounds more like eye for an eye FAFO.
Did you actually read the two articles posted by the blogger? The archive.today owner wasn't doxxed. No personally identifying information was provided; it only aggregates already-known info including a couple of fake aliases. The most it concludes is that the guy is Russian or operating out of Russia. https://gyrovague.com/2026/02/01/archive-today-is-directing-a-ddos-attack-against-my-blog/ |
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zarkanian
sh.itjust.works
zarkanian@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2024-01-11 |
Understandable. Archive.today is really good at getting website content, but their methods are proprietary and a little dubious. If you just want to save things locally, I believe Single File is really good. It downloads the page that you see on your browser, as you see it.
Also, as the name indicates, it downloads the page as a single file. Obviously, it doesn't help for archiving the page for other people, though. |
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