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The 'Paperwork Flood': How I Drowned a Bureaucrat before dinner., Sightless Scribbles
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Otter lemmy.ca otter@lemmy.ca
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TribblesBestFriend startrek.website TribblesBestFriend@startrek.website
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I’m surprised they don’t have a fax-to-computer system, my father had that when I was a kid and I’m no kid now.

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Zebrafive lemmy.myserv.one Zebrafive@lemmy.myserv.one
Joined: 2025-07-04
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Our government is run by Vogons

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FederatedFreedom1981 lemmy.ca FederatedFreedom1981@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2026-04-01
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Our government is run by Vogons

To be fair, ALL governments are run by Vogons.

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NoWay lemmy.world aviationeast@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-05
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Most faxes these days are unencrypted.

If you know how to eavesdrop, faxes are less secure than google to google email. Or if you need to be certain you zip encrypted the file, send it over, and then call with the password...
Or fax the password.

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teft piefed.social teft@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-07-22
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I'm surprised the SSA don't have an option to mark you as permanently disabled. We have that in the VA system. It's not like someone's blown off leg is going to regrow.

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Red0ctober lemmy.world Red0ctober@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-06
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To be fair, ALL governments are run by Vogons.

Dammit, I thought it was infiltrated by the Pleiadians

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SpaceNoodle lemmy.world SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-14
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I'm surprised the SSA don't have an option to mark you as permanently disabled. We have that in the VA system. It's not like someone's blown off leg is going to regrow.

That's not even the dumbest thing they do. The SSA shuts their website down outside of business hours.

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Cris_Citrus (he/him <3) piefed.zip Cris_Citrus@piefed.zip
Joined: 2026-02-26
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That's not even the dumbest thing they do. The SSA shuts their website down outside of business hours.

What the fuck...? As someone with a circadian rhythm disorder I didn't know things could get any more fucking bleak. Parks, libraries, stores, doctors are all closed, but fucking WEBSITES?? Christ.

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Blue_Morpho lemmy.world Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-11-14
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Most faxes these days are unencrypted. If you know how to eavesdrop, faxes are less secure than google to google email. Or if you need to be certain you zip encrypted the file, send it over, and then call with the password... Or fax the password.

Google email reads all your mail and sells what it finds to advertisers.

The encrypted zip could work as long as the filenames don't reveal anything. Google looks in encrypted zips and reads the filenames (which aren't encrypted).

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FederatedFreedom1981 lemmy.ca FederatedFreedom1981@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2026-04-01
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Dammit, I thought it was infiltrated by the Pleiadians

Nah, the evidence is clear, all the speeches are terrible poetry.

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SpaceNoodle lemmy.world SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-14
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What the fuck...? As someone with a circadian rhythm disorder I didn't know things could get any more fucking bleak. Parks, libraries, stores, doctors are all closed, but fucking WEBSITES?? Christ.

Because otherwise the employees would have to stay up all night turning the Internet crank!

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Azura The Spellkissed lemmy.blahaj.zone AzuraTheSpellkissed@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2026-03-30
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I’m surprised they don’t have a fax-to-computer system, my father had that when I was a kid and I’m no kid now.

But that would require updating existing legacy systems, and official bodies often aren't incentivised to orchestrate that

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boonhet sopuli.xyz boonhet@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2025-06-16
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Google email reads all your mail and sells what it finds to advertisers. The encrypted zip could work as long as the filenames don't reveal anything. Google looks in encrypted zips and reads the filenames (which aren't encrypted).

Google doesn't sell anything to advertisers, that would be mega dumb.

They do sell access though. Advertiser ticks boxes for what they want their target audience to be and then Google shows it to those people.

If they sold all that data, nobody would advertise through Google anymore because it wouldn't be better than competing services.

Now their three letter friends? Those guys definitely get data.

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boonhet sopuli.xyz boonhet@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2025-06-16
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I'm surprised the SSA don't have an option to mark you as permanently disabled. We have that in the VA system. It's not like someone's blown off leg is going to regrow.

Similar thing in my country, gotta prove your disability every year. I've been putting off redoing the paperwork got my ADHD for like a year. I don't even necessarily want the tiny bit of money they'd pay me, I just want the tiny tax break on the payroll taxes for the employer (which is me).

But yes, even if you have a missing limb, you need to fill out 10 pages of forms annually.

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prole lemmy.blahaj.zone prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2024-06-11
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I’m surprised they don’t have a fax-to-computer system, my father had that when I was a kid and I’m no kid now.

Hell, most office copy machine/scanners these days allow you to email scanned documents directly from the printer

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TribblesBestFriend startrek.website TribblesBestFriend@startrek.website
Joined: 2025-01-30
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Hell, most office copy machine/scanners these days allow you to email scanned documents directly from the printer

Scan by Email aren’t as secure as Fax machine

I’m not sure why

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ShaggySnacks lemmy.myserv.one ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one
Joined: 2023-08-17
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I'm surprised the SSA don't have an option to mark you as permanently disabled. We have that in the VA system. It's not like someone's blown off leg is going to regrow.

I’m surprised the SSA don’t have an option to mark you as permanently disabled

Cause then someone might be able to abuse the system and get free money! We can't have people living on free money below the poverty line. We have to put barriers into place to both dehumanize people and "prevent widespread fraud".

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Obi sopuli.xyz Obi@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2023-06-01
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To be fair, ALL governments are run by Vogons.

There are definitely levels to it, for example the Dutch and French administrations are incomparable, the Dutch being 100x more efficient and straight forward. I don't know about the rest of Canada but I do know that at least Quebec unfortunately seems to have taken from their colonizer in that aspect.

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FederatedFreedom1981 lemmy.ca FederatedFreedom1981@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2026-04-01
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There are definitely levels to it, for example the Dutch and French administrations are incomparable, the Dutch being 100x more efficient and straight forward. I don't know about the rest of Canada but I do know that at least Quebec unfortunately seems to have taken from their colonizer in that aspect.

Merely cultural offshoots. An interstellar race like the Vogons can't be expected to be entirely culturally monolithic.

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SpaceNoodle lemmy.world SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-14
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Similar thing in my country, gotta prove your disability every year. I've been putting off redoing the paperwork got my ADHD for like a year. I don't even necessarily want the tiny bit of money they'd pay me, I just want the tiny tax break on the payroll taxes for the employer (which is me). But yes, even if you have a missing limb, you need to fill out 10 pages of forms annually.

Especially if you have a missing limb.

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Blue_Morpho lemmy.world Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-11-14
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Google doesn't sell anything to advertisers, that would be mega dumb. They do sell access though. Advertiser ticks boxes for what they want their target audience to be and then Google shows it to those people. If they sold all that data, nobody would advertise through Google anymore because it wouldn't be better than competing services. Now their three letter friends? Those guys definitely get data.

Google doesn’t sell anything to advertisers, that would be mega dumb.

Yes you are right, they don't give direct access to the data. But they are reading the emails and selling your data in aggregate. Advertisers need only jump a few hoops to take Google's aggregated advertising data and combine it with other data sources to personally identify you.

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Frostbeard lemmy.world Frostbeard@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-10-16
#23 · (edited) Quote Reply

The policy of not asking about personal medical information by regular email is sound.

I work as an engineer(not in the US) in a governmental capacity and we would never ask for sensitive material to be sent by mail.

We do however have a secure service in our web page where you can upload such material, with the option to cc in people by mail to alert them that you have sent something. Otherwise it will take a day for our archive to send it the right way.

Edit:
We have more secure options, but that requires an invite/link. We ofc can handle proper secret stuff as well, but that involves a seperate intranet and secure terminal and so on.

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Freeposity lemmy.world Freeposity@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-04-27
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For the recipient, a fax is a physical reality. It requires paper. It requires ink. It requires time.

Actually, no. They convert the faxes to PDFs, just like he converted the PDF to a fax.

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