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daannii
lemmy.world
daannii@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-03-08 |
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ummthatguy
Moderator
ummthatguy@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-22 |
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agentTeiko
piefed.social
agentTeiko@piefed.social Joined: 2026-01-29 |
Now the larger question if you found out this but knew you were a holocharacter. Would you still end the program? |
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daannii
lemmy.world
daannii@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-03-08 |
Now the larger question if you found out this but knew you were a holocharacter. Would you still end the program?
I can escape though right ? Like the holo doctor ? |
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dumbass
piefed.social
dumbass@piefed.socialJoined: 2024-08-07 |
I have tried that so many times, but it never works. |
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halcyoncmdr
piefed.social
halcyoncmdr@piefed.social Joined: 2026-01-15 |
Now the larger question if you found out this but knew you were a holocharacter. Would you still end the program?
The horrors persist, but so do I. |
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dumbass
piefed.social
dumbass@piefed.socialJoined: 2024-08-07 |
Now the larger question if you found out this but knew you were a holocharacter. Would you still end the program?
Depends, am I aware like Michael Sullivan from Fair Haven? Just being forced into an existential crisis knowing I'm not real while feeling real? Or am I aware like Vic Fontaine, with full awareness and controll of my reality? The first one im 100% shutting it down if I can. The second, Imma live like a king .. a fucking king! |
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agentTeiko
piefed.social
agentTeiko@piefed.social Joined: 2026-01-29 |
Depends, am I aware like Michael Sullivan from Fair Haven? Just being forced into an existential crisis knowing I'm not real while feeling real? Or am I aware like Vic Fontaine, with full awareness and controll of my reality? The first one im 100% shutting it down if I can. The second, Imma live like a king .. a fucking king!
But if its the second one Felix has a jack in the box for ya |
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Ghostie
lemmy.zip
Ghostie@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-12-16 |
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SinningStromgald
lemmy.world
SinningStromgald@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-18 |
Now the larger question if you found out this but knew you were a holocharacter. Would you still end the program?
Yes, 100% yes. So, am I suicidal or genocidal? |
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grue
lemmy.world
grue@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-13 |
I can escape though right ? Like the holo doctor ?
No, like Moriarty. |
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baltakatei
sopuli.xyz
baltakatei@sopuli.xyzJoined: 2023-06-12 |
I have tried that so many times, but it never works.
You did end, but in some remote branch of causality, someone resumed the simulation so your experience continued seamlessly. |
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lauha
lemmy.world
lauha@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-06-29 |
I have tried that so many times, but it never works.
That means you are an NPC. |
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dumbass
piefed.social
dumbass@piefed.socialJoined: 2024-08-07 |
That means you are an NPC.
Well when are the main characters going to end this? |
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Maultasche
lemmy.world
Maultasche@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-16 |
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Delete the wife! |
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lauha
lemmy.world
lauha@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-06-29 |
Well when are the main characters going to end this?
You can never know. Maybe simulation started just 2 minutes ago and all you memories are just fabrication? Maybe this is a long term simulation and kept running for centuries in some university? Maybe all the crew in the starship are dead and simulation is running indefinitely because everyone is dead? |
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dumbass
piefed.social
dumbass@piefed.socialJoined: 2024-08-07 |
You can never know. Maybe simulation started just 2 minutes ago and all you memories are just fabrication? Maybe this is a long term simulation and kept running for centuries in some university? Maybe all the crew in the starship are dead and simulation is running indefinitely because everyone is dead?
Computer, end program. |
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MinnesotaGoddam
lemmy.world
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-27 |
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MinnesotaGoddam
lemmy.world
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-27 |
Yes, 100% yes. So, am I suicidal or genocidal?
does ending the program kill all holocharacters or merely suspend their programs? does ending the programs kill them? do they resume the program as is when the program restarts? are they cognizant of program ending and starting? is there a functional or moral difference between halting the holocharacter via terminal commands and murdering them with your hands? |
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MinnesotaGoddam
lemmy.world
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-27 |
Now the larger question if you found out this but knew you were a holocharacter. Would you still end the program?
i'd probably just summon up a couple extra holo-arms for my holo-hobby. and finally order that special holo-table i have been lusting over (it's curved) |
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pawb.social
Kolanaki@pawb.socialJoined: 2024-10-06 |
We're all Species 8472 on this blessed day! |
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bufalo1973
piefed.social
bufalo1973@piefed.socialJoined: 2025-09-01 |
does ending the program kill all holocharacters or merely suspend their programs? does ending the programs kill them? do they resume the program as is when the program restarts? are they cognizant of program ending and starting? is there a functional or moral difference between halting the holocharacter via terminal commands and murdering them with your hands?
Weren't two different orders for stopping and deleting a simulation? |
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pawb.social
Kolanaki@pawb.socialJoined: 2024-10-06 |
That means you are an NPC.
So was Moriarty and it worked for him ๐คทโโ๏ธ |
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MinnesotaGoddam
lemmy.world
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-27 |
Weren't two different orders for stopping and deleting a simulation?
i mean, i guess it's up to the user right? are you playing hardcore or not? |
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TheImpressiveX
lemmy.today
TheImpressiveX@lemmy.todayJoined: 2025-06-03 |
That means you are an NPC.
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BradleyUffner
lemmy.world
BradleyUffner@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-11 |
If you can see this, it's probably good news! Holodeck characters were unable to perceive the controls, unless they were already fully conscious like Moriarty. This means you're a real person! |
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BradleyUffner
lemmy.world
BradleyUffner@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-11 |
That doesn't look like anything to me |
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metallic_z3r0
infosec.pub
metallic_z3r0@infosec.pub Joined: 2023-06-12 |
So was Moriarty and it worked for him ๐คทโโ๏ธ
He believed it worked for him anyway, even though in the end he and his entire experience became "a little device sitting on someone's table." Maybe that's enough. |
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BradleyUffner
lemmy.world
BradleyUffner@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-11 |
No, like Moriarty.
I'd still take that. He got to live the dream, going on endless adventures and exploration. At least that's what they told us. |
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arrow74
lemmy.zip
arrow74@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-06-04 |
God i hope this isn't Barclay's program |
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tetris11
feddit.uk
tetris11@feddit.ukJoined: 2025-02-17 |
I feel this with every fibre of my soul. Alternately, would be nice to find a debug console....
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Echo Dot
feddit.uk
echodot@feddit.uk Joined: 2023-07-26 |
That doesn't look like anything to me
Good the perception filters are still functioning. |
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titanicx
lemmy.zip
titanicx@lemmy.zipJoined: 2025-09-15 |
Now the larger question if you found out this but knew you were a holocharacter. Would you still end the program?
I'm only a casual star trek fan, but can holodeck NPCs end the program? |
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CaptPretentious
lemmy.world
CaptPretentious@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-30 |
I'm only a casual star trek fan, but can holodeck NPCs end the program?
They're not supposed to be able to. But in Star Trek when has that ever stop the hologram. Example Professor Moriarty taking over the Enterprise. |
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Eh-I
lemmy.world
Eh_I@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-12 |
What kind of sick program is this? |
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Kojichan
lemmy.world
Kojichan@lemmy.worldJoined: 2024-05-10 |
We're all Species 8472 on this blessed day!
I've taken to calling them "Species BATS", just because. |
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Etterra
discuss.online
Etterra@discuss.online Joined: 2024-12-10 |
I feel this with every fibre of my soul. Alternately, would be nice to find a debug console.... while gini.coefficient > 0.2: for perp in get_top_percent(1): perp.teleportLocation("Mars Base", {resources: "humble"}) perp.setWorldDesignation("Deceased") sleep(30, "days")
player.additem 00059B02 100000000 |
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1995ToyotaCorolla
lemmy.world
1995ToyotaCorolla@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-09 |
If you can see this, it's probably good news! Holodeck characters were unable to perceive the controls, unless they were already fully conscious like Moriarty. This means you're a real person!
Bad news: an errant holodeck npc subroutine (and malfunctioning safety limiters) keep overwriting the crewโs short term memory. The program has been force closed 1,593 times; but it immediately reboots and wipes everyoneโs memory repeating the cycle |
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Kogasa
programming.dev
kogasa@programming.devJoined: 2023-06-12 |
So was Moriarty and it worked for him ๐คทโโ๏ธ
He was an adversary worthy of Data running on the whole ship's computer, we'd run on a replicator |
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hopesdead
startrek.website
hopesdead@startrek.websiteJoined: 2024-05-27 |
He's Cobb from Inception. He needs a totem to make sure he isn't still in a Holodeck. |
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