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Multiplexer discuss.tchncs.de Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de
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einkorn feddit.org einkorn@feddit.org
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Unfortunately it's necessary in a place where people regularly receive life changing or ending news.

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betterdeadthanreddit lemmy.world betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world
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It was either that or putting in a drain, adding a hose connection, and waterproofing the splash zone.

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Paper_Phrog lemmy.world Paper_Phrog@lemmy.world
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This seems awfully not stretchy...

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abbadon420 sh.itjust.works abbadon420@sh.itjust.works
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This seems awfully not stretchy...

It's not a safety net, it's a sieve

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Typotyper sh.itjust.works Typotyper@sh.itjust.works
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It's not a safety net, it's a sieve

With one every floor and that sharp angle, I was thinking more cheese grater. No time to get the velocity to go through it but enough momentum to slide across it

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Multiplexer discuss.tchncs.de Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de
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This seems awfully not stretchy...

Maximum drop distance at any point is less than 2m.
You will survive...

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Multiplexer discuss.tchncs.de Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de
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Unfortunately it's necessary in a place where people regularly receive life changing or ending news.

It's the first hospital where I've seen something like this, though.

I can just guess that there must have been some kind of incident at that place that triggered the installation of the safety nets.

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Alcoholicorn mander.xyz Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz
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With one every floor and that sharp angle, I was thinking more cheese grater. No time to get the velocity to go through it but enough momentum to slide across it

If you jump the railing, you're at the lowest part of the slope.

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Typotyper sh.itjust.works Typotyper@sh.itjust.works
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If you jump the railing, you're at the lowest part of the slope.

Wouldn't that depend on which railing you jumped.

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Alcoholicorn mander.xyz Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz
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Wouldn't that depend on which railing you jumped.

No.

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Typotyper sh.itjust.works Typotyper@sh.itjust.works
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No.

Yes

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bufalo1973 piefed.social bufalo1973@piefed.social
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I think building an elevator there is a better option.

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Alcoholicorn mander.xyz Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz
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Yes

Every railing except the stairs is the bottom of a slope, the stairs are the side.

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joelfromaus aussie.zone joelfromaus@aussie.zone
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It's not a safety net, it's a sieve

Judging by the size of the holes it’s a filter for newborns.

Spoiler

I’m definitely going to hell for that one.

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Multiplexer discuss.tchncs.de Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de
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I think building an elevator there is a better option.

Naturally there are also several elevators at the place.

But you must have other routes for exit that are easily available in the case of an emergency.

Also many people aren't especially fond of elevators (me included).

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bufalo1973 piefed.social bufalo1973@piefed.social
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Naturally there are also several elevators at the place. But you must have other routes for exit that are easily available in the case of an emergency. Also many people aren't especially fond of elevators (me included).

The stairway stays. The elevator could be built in the "hole"

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einkorn feddit.org einkorn@feddit.org
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It's the first hospital where I've seen something like this, though. I can just guess that there must have been some kind of incident at that place that triggered the installation of the safety nets.

Sure and the incident was a suicide, no question about it.

Former girlfriend of mine had a patient jump out of a window after his late stage cancer diagnose.

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Midnight Wolf lemmy.world wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world
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Judging by the size of the holes it’s a filter for newborns. ::: spoiler Spoiler I’m definitely going to hell for that one. :::

[The Price Is Right music, excited contestent]

Let's play Plinko!

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greyscale lemmy.grey.ooo greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo
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Sure and the incident was a suicide, no question about it. Former girlfriend of mine had a patient jump out of a window after his late stage cancer diagnose.

I mean, I can understand it from the guy.. half a year of dying in a bed? Or right the fuck now? Who knows how much pain he was currently in.

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ZeldaFreak lemmy.world ZeldaFreak@lemmy.world
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Sure and the incident was a suicide, no question about it. Former girlfriend of mine had a patient jump out of a window after his late stage cancer diagnose.

Thats why assisted death/suicide should be more legalized and talked about. I mean in such a case, the case is pretty simple. In such a case, they need a second doctor from outside to confirm the diagnosis, get a notary or some kind to confirm that this is the wish of the patient and they got all the necessary information. I guess in a week they should have the clearance.

This way someone can leave the world on their terms, without pain or traumatizing or hurting bystanders.

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SomeoneSomewhere lemmy.nz SomeoneSomewhere@lemmy.nz
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The stairway stays. The elevator could be built in the "hole"

Elevators need a decent amount of surrounding space for cabling and for the counterweight. That all needs to be completely touch-proofed so people don't lose hands.

The running rails etc. also have structural rigidity requirements. Bolting straight onto concrete slab works best and there's not enough concrete here.

Fire stairwells often can't have anything put on them that could risk starting a fire, elevators included.

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SavvyWolf pawb.social savvywolf@pawb.social
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The stairway stays. The elevator could be built in the "hole"

I'm no elevatorologist so soneone can correct me, but don't elevators need a lot of surrounding machinery in order to operate? Like, there needs to be weights and pulleys and all that. I image there would not be enough room for both that and the stairs.

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Multiplexer discuss.tchncs.de Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de
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The stairway stays. The elevator could be built in the "hole"

l am surprised that the hospital, being halfway closed because of non-profitability anyway, had enough funds left somewhere to even install the nets.

A new elevator would probably have cost more than the whole building complex is worth by now...

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whyNotSquirrel sh.itjust.works whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works
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#25 · Quote Reply

It's not a safety net, it's a sieve

NSFW?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=k8Tw4JhzORM

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CompactFlax discuss.tchncs.de CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de
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#26 · (edited) Quote Reply

l am surprised that the hospital, being halfway closed because of non-profitability anyway, had enough funds left somewhere to even install the nets. A new elevator would probably have cost more than the whole building complex is worth by now...

non-profitability

Ugh. I hate how that idea has worked its way into the collective consciousness.

Healthcare is one of the cases where the market can’t work even in theory. There’s no upper limit to what people will spend, as a percentage of their net worth, to keep a child alive.

It shouldn’t even be a conversation. Just “nope, hospitals cannot be profitable, they are a social good, we fund them as a society” end of fucking discussion.

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Typotyper sh.itjust.works Typotyper@sh.itjust.works
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Every railing except the stairs is the bottom of a slope, the stairs are the side.

I'd like to persist in my childish back and forth games but apparently I've been betrayed by my early morning attention to detail

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Multiplexer discuss.tchncs.de Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de
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non-profitability Ugh. I hate how that idea has worked its way into the collective consciousness. Healthcare is one of the cases where the market can’t work even in theory. There’s no upper limit to what people will spend, as a percentage of their net worth, to keep a child alive. It shouldn’t even be a conversation. Just “nope, hospitals cannot be profitable, they are a social good, we fund th...

hospitals cannot be profitable, they are a social good, we fund them as a society

l live in Germany, a country with universal healthcare, so basically we do exactly that.
So perhaps "profitability" is the wrong word here.

But funds are still limited, and if the authorities determine that the money is used less efficient in one place than in another, they will consolidate and close the first place (that's happening for the hospital in the picture).

We have reached, or even passed the limits of that aproach, though.
Doctors and hospitals have to be realistically reachable for people and not a 100km away after all...

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Tonava sopuli.xyz Tonava@sopuli.xyz
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Thats why assisted death/suicide should be more legalized and talked about. I mean in such a case, the case is pretty simple. In such a case, they need a second doctor from outside to confirm the diagnosis, get a notary or some kind to confirm that this is the wish of the patient and they got all the necessary information. I guess in a week they should have the clearance. This way someone can l...
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modus lemmy.world modus@lemmy.world
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#30 · Quote Reply

Unfortunately it's necessary in a place where people regularly receive life changing or ending news.

Or medical bills.

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Multiplexer discuss.tchncs.de Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de
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#31 · (edited) Quote Reply

Or medical bills.

Location is in Germany.
So maximum hospital bill for someone with standard insurance is 10€ per day.
Wouldn't jump because of that...

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jaycifer lemmy.world jaycifer@lemmy.world
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#32 · Quote Reply

Wow, my brain had a tough time processing that image. Turn it about 20 degrees counter clockwise and it looked like a hallway with several red carts with netting blocking the way. I literally thought the morgue was at the other end.

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Multiplexer discuss.tchncs.de Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de
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Wow, my brain had a tough time processing that image. Turn it about 20 degrees counter clockwise and it looked like a hallway with several red carts with netting blocking the way. I literally thought the morgue was at the other end.

The other shots I did are even more confusing, I picked the one that seemed to be the most comprehensible...

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ZeldaFreak lemmy.world ZeldaFreak@lemmy.world
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At least something that is legal and that you can be sure that this is the persons will.

What I found weird is that in Germany until 4 years ago "ads" for an abortion was illegal but abortion itself is legal. Under ads it even counted when a doctor posted on their website, that they do abortions. They than changed that law and revoked any conviction until 1990.

Overall when I think how recent some laws changed and what was normal back when I was born or when my parents where born.

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toynbee piefed.social toynbee@piefed.social
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It's the first hospital where I've seen something like this, though. I can just guess that there must have been some kind of incident at that place that triggered the installation of the safety nets.

My local hospital handles this by being only one story tall.

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jve lemmy.world jve@lemmy.world
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#36 · Quote Reply

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suicide booth futurama

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stoly lemmy.world stoly@lemmy.world
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#37 · Quote Reply

This means that someone jumped, the family sued, and your local nonprofit hospital had to spend money it didn't have.

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argarath lemmy.world argarath@lemmy.world
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This means that someone jumped, the family sued, and your local nonprofit hospital had to spend money it didn't have.

Very american point of view. My first thought was "oh dam, someone in a disturbed mental state (tbh I thought suicidal) attempted to jump/jumped and the hospital wants to make sure no one else hurts themselves that way! That's good care!" But we can also look through the extremely negative POV of no one does anything good ever unless there's money on the line, right?

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modus lemmy.world modus@lemmy.world
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#39 · Quote Reply

Location is in Germany. So maximum hospital bill for someone with standard insurance is 10€ per day. Wouldn't jump because of that...

In Amerikkka, they'll bill your family for cleaning you off the floor.

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Jankatarch lemmy.world Jankatarch@lemmy.world
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#40 · (edited) Quote Reply

My inner-child wanna play tag there.

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pimento64 sopuli.xyz pimento64@sopuli.xyz
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#41 · Quote Reply

Thats why assisted death/suicide should be more legalized and talked about. I mean in such a case, the case is pretty simple. In such a case, they need a second doctor from outside to confirm the diagnosis, get a notary or some kind to confirm that this is the wish of the patient and they got all the necessary information. I guess in a week they should have the clearance. This way someone can l...

Speedrunning an established legal precedent for nonvoluntary eugenics in the process

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InFerNo lemmy.ml InFerNo@lemmy.ml
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#42 · Quote Reply

Sike, it's cutting wire. Anyone who falls ends up cubed like that Resident Evil scene.

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OBJECTION! lemmy.ml Objection@lemmy.ml
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#43 · Quote Reply

This means that someone jumped, the family sued, and your local nonprofit hospital had to spend money it didn't have.

I'll never understand why so many people hate suicide prevention.

How much does a net even cost?

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Agent641 lemmy.world Agent641@lemmy.world
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#44 · Quote Reply

Sike, it's cutting wire. Anyone who falls ends up cubed like that Resident Evil scene.

For easier disposal and more surface area for Maillard reaction

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Multiplexer discuss.tchncs.de Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de
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I'll never understand why so many people hate suicide prevention. How much does a net even cost?

I'll never understand why so many people hate suicide prevention.

Well, perhaps because this is not suicide prevention, but just suicide relocation.

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BygoneNeutrino lemmy.world BygoneNeutrino@lemmy.world
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#46 · (edited) Quote Reply

In Amerikkka, they'll bill your family for cleaning you off the floor.

...if someone decided to jump off my second floor balcony, I would probably send somebody the bill. You're not allowed to clean it up with a shovel and a pitch fork; you have to hire an expensive biohazard team.

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OBJECTION! lemmy.ml Objection@lemmy.ml
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#47 · (edited) Quote Reply

I'll never understand why so many people hate suicide prevention. Well, perhaps because this is not suicide prevention, but just suicide relocation.

It isn't, actually.

Contrary to what people seem to assume, putting up minor obstacles to prevent suicide has been scientifically proven to be effective at reducing suicides not only at that specific location, but in the general area (meaning people don't just find another way to do it).

Suicide is generally an irrational, often spontaneous act. Suicidal people are, in the vast majority of cases, not thinking clearly. Requiring someone to engage their brain enough to come up with another method of suicide often makes them also question whether they actually want to do it or not. Having a big open fall on the other hand, offers a quick, convenient escape that someone who is feeling overwhelmed or desperate might be tempted by, even if they wouldn't do it if they had to actually make a plan.

Empirical evidence suggests that restricting access to certain suicide methods is highly effective at preventing suicide, prompting the construction of physical barriers in many high-risk jumping locations. However, some have argued that these measures are too costly and only lead to method or location substitution.

Results clearly show that physical barriers are highly effective at preventing suicide by jumping with little to no method or location substitution occurring. Furthermore, their cost is far outweighed by the monetary benefits of averted suicides.

A related concept, requiring guns to be kept in nested containers where you have to open multiple layers has been shown to reduce road rage incidents. Every additional barrier provides a chance for you to remember yourself. And having an easy means of suicide around the house (such as a gun) increases suicide rates. People are not computers.

If you ask me (or the scientists who have studied this), any large drop like this ought to have nets, and people on the internet can whine all they want about it.

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CarrotsHaveEars lemmy.ml racketlauncher831@lemmy.ml
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#48 · Quote Reply

Sike, it's cutting wire. Anyone who falls ends up cubed like that Resident Evil scene.

In Cube (1997 film).

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InFerNo lemmy.ml InFerNo@lemmy.ml
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#49 · Quote Reply

In Cube (1997 film).

Great movie

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Delphia lemmy.world Delphia@lemmy.world
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...if someone decided to jump off my second floor balcony, I would probably send somebody the bill. You're not allowed to clean it up with a shovel and a pitch fork; you have to hire an expensive biohazard team.

"I'M GONNA JUMP!!!"

"Go for distance! Make sure you land on public property!"

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stoly lemmy.world stoly@lemmy.world
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#51 · Quote Reply

I'll never understand why so many people hate suicide prevention. How much does a net even cost?

Where did you get in my statement that I dislike suicide prevention?

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