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cuchi startrek.website cuchi@startrek.website
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Steve communick.news Steve@communick.news
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Maybe if you saved it all in cash. But who does that?
If you invested the first $100k and earned a very modest 4%/year. After 2000 years you'd have $1,165,946,431,999,999,965,770,988,108,697,149,898,752

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1dalm lemmy.today 1dalm@lemmy.today
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Maybe if you saved it all in cash. But who does that? If you invested the first $100k and earned a very modest 4%/year. After 2000 years you'd have $1,165,946,431,999,999,965,770,988,108,697,149,898,752

This is my go to evidence that the whole beliefs that real estate values always increase is absurd.

If real estate prices always increase, even modestly, then an apartment in Rome or Paris would cost hundreds of trillions of dollars. Obviously that's not the case, and since land speculation isn't exactly a new thing, there is a correction somewhere.

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James R Kirk startrek.website Kirk@startrek.website
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He was more than a Q. He was a union man.

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DarkCloud lemmy.world DarkCloud@lemmy.world
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But with all that money, why would you care whose ahead and behind you... And do they care about that, or is that just a narrative we've bought into, something to make us feel a certain way about the wealthy being unpleasant?

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Kowowow lemmy.ca Kowowow@lemmy.ca
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Maybe if you saved it all in cash. But who does that? If you invested the first $100k and earned a very modest 4%/year. After 2000 years you'd have $1,165,946,431,999,999,965,770,988,108,697,149,898,752

Huh when did a standard investment system like that start

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xkbx startrek.website xkbx@startrek.website
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This is my go to evidence that the whole beliefs that real estate values always increase is absurd. If real estate prices always increase, even modestly, then an apartment in Rome or Paris would cost hundreds of trillions of dollars. Obviously that's not the case, and since land speculation isn't exactly a new thing, there is a correction somewhere.

it’s balanced out by the fake estate business

a true yin to its yang

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SparroHawc piefed.world SparroHawc@piefed.world
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But with all that money, why would you care whose ahead and behind you... And do they care about that, or is that just a narrative we've bought into, something to make us feel a certain way about the wealthy being unpleasant?

It's not a question of who's in front of or behind you. It's realizing that even if you received a ludicrous amount of money, repeatedly, over a ludicrous amount of time, it still wouldn't even scratch the utter lunacy that is the wealth of the ultra-rich. There is no way to earn that amount of wealth, in the sense of how you and I earn money. They acquired it by taking unjustly; there is no just way to become that wealthy.

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Scrubbles poptalk.scrubbles.tech scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech
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That's not so long! Passover was just a week ago.... Oh... Oh jesus

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Dadifer lemmy.world Dadifer@lemmy.world
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He was more than a Q. He was a union man.

I thought his union didn't like him

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ashenone lemmy.ml ashenone@lemmy.ml
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Jesus would open a whip braiding co-op if he heard that stat

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James R Kirk startrek.website Kirk@startrek.website
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This is my go to evidence that the whole beliefs that real estate values always increase is absurd. If real estate prices always increase, even modestly, then an apartment in Rome or Paris would cost hundreds of trillions of dollars. Obviously that's not the case, and since land speculation isn't exactly a new thing, there is a correction somewhere.

On the flip side if you invested in the equivalent of the Roman SNP500 you'd indeed have a gazillion denariuses.

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piccolo sh.itjust.works piccolo@sh.itjust.works
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It's not a question of who's in front of or behind you. It's realizing that even if you received a ludicrous amount of money, repeatedly, over a ludicrous amount of time, it still wouldn't even scratch the utter lunacy that is the wealth of the ultra-rich. There is no way to earn that amount of wealth, in the sense of how you and I earn money. They acquired it by taking unjustly; there is no ju...

Non-sense. Just be born rich, stupid.

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James R Kirk startrek.website Kirk@startrek.website
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I thought his union didn't like him

Lol. And yet it was still difficult for them to fire him!

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Zorque lemmy.world Zorque@lemmy.world
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Lol. And yet it was still difficult for them to fire him!

It even started a Civil War!

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texture lemmy.world texture@lemmy.world
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we dont talk about jc here

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MalReynolds slrpnk.net MalReynolds@slrpnk.net
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It's not a question of who's in front of or behind you. It's realizing that even if you received a ludicrous amount of money, repeatedly, over a ludicrous amount of time, it still wouldn't even scratch the utter lunacy that is the wealth of the ultra-rich. There is no way to earn that amount of wealth, in the sense of how you and I earn money. They acquired it by taking unjustly; there is no ju...

Legal thieves, and their kin.

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cuchi startrek.website cuchi@startrek.website
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we dont talk about jc here

What you mean? Pike is christian.

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texture lemmy.world texture@lemmy.world
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What you mean? Pike is christian.

shhh

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DarkCloud lemmy.world DarkCloud@lemmy.world
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#20 · (edited) Quote Reply

Non-sense. Just be born rich, stupid.

This is how the vaat majority of wealthy people acquired the vast majority of their money. There was a study recently.

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DarkCloud lemmy.world DarkCloud@lemmy.world
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#21 · (edited) Quote Reply

It's not a question of who's in front of or behind you. It's realizing that even if you received a ludicrous amount of money, repeatedly, over a ludicrous amount of time, it still wouldn't even scratch the utter lunacy that is the wealth of the ultra-rich. There is no way to earn that amount of wealth, in the sense of how you and I earn money. They acquired it by taking unjustly; there is no ju...

No shit, I was using the royal "you" to wonder about the already wealthy. What goes on in their heads.

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SeductiveTortoise piefed.social SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social
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It even started a Civil War!

And that was fixed by a good shagging. Well not that good. And not really a shagging.

Eh, you get what I mean.

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dan69 lemmy.world dan69@lemmy.world
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Yo I need money. But not money saved since Jesus..

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pticrix lemmy.ca pticrix@lemmy.ca
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This is my go to evidence that the whole beliefs that real estate values always increase is absurd. If real estate prices always increase, even modestly, then an apartment in Rome or Paris would cost hundreds of trillions of dollars. Obviously that's not the case, and since land speculation isn't exactly a new thing, there is a correction somewhere.

what's the euro to sesterce exchange rate these days?

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mkwt lemmy.world mkwt@lemmy.world
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This is my go to evidence that the whole beliefs that real estate values always increase is absurd. If real estate prices always increase, even modestly, then an apartment in Rome or Paris would cost hundreds of trillions of dollars. Obviously that's not the case, and since land speculation isn't exactly a new thing, there is a correction somewhere.

This is an astute observation.

In fact, macroeconomic theory would say that appreciation in real estate should be tied to the rate of interest, which in turn should be tied the rise of the price level: inflation.

There are discrepancies, of course. Lately real estate has been growing faster than inflation. And importantly, during the Second Thirty Years War, 1914-1945, those European apartments suffered great depreciation and outright physical destruction.

The biggest thing that happened, though, is that inflation essentially did not exist until the second half of the nineteenth century. As far as we can tell, inflation was created by the industrial revolution. Before then, with wide error bars, you can tie prices from the 1760s to prices from the Roman Empire, in the same base metals.

For more evidence, read the works of Jane Austen and Victor Hugo. They are full of specific prices for things that make no sense to modern readers. But the authors expected that future readers would be able relate to the specific prices. Modern fiction authors avoid mentioning specific prices when they want their work to feel timeless.

Source, generally: Thomas Piketty. Capital in the Twenty First Century.

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