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VW replaces US ID.4 production with 18mpg Atlas SUV as gas prices spike
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sabreW4K3 lazysoci.al sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al
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smeg infosec.pub smeg@infosec.pub
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The American consumer always lets industries tell them what they want. It puts incumbent interests over progress or even rational market forces. Americans will become poorer as a nation as a result.

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PerogiBoi lemmy.ca PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-06-08
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The American consumer always lets industries tell them what they want. It puts incumbent interests over progress or even rational market forces. Americans will become poorer as a nation as a result.

It's okay they want this. They voted for this. They don't buy EVs because they don't want them.

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sorghum sh.itjust.works sorghum@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-18
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It's okay they want this. They voted for this. They don't buy EVs because they don't want them.

Not all of us. I've been out proselytizing the benefits of ownership. Pardon the following imperial units.

With gas at $4/gal and me paying 15¢/kWh, at 4 mi/kwh in my Bolt, it is like getting 107 mpg (2.2 l/100km) dollar for dollar equivalent.

Oil change every 100k miles, coolant change every 150k miles.

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porous_grey_matter lemmy.ml porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-12-09
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Not all of us. I've been out proselytizing the benefits of ownership. Pardon the following imperial units. With gas at $4/gal and me paying 15¢/kWh, at 4 mi/kwh in my Bolt, it is like getting 107 mpg (2.2 l/100km) dollar for dollar equivalent. Oil change every 100k miles, coolant change every 150k miles.

yeah but the lower your mpg the more americaner you are

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sorghum sh.itjust.works sorghum@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-18
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yeah but the lower your mpg the more americaner you are

If that was the case, none of us would ride motorcycles.

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porous_grey_matter lemmy.ml porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-12-09
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If that was the case, none of us would ride motorcycles.

that's an exception because it's dangerous

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ltxrtquq lemmy.ml ltxrtquq@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-07-10
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that's an exception because it's dangerous

You just feed any savings from efficiency into the insurance and healthcare systems, like a true American.

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scytale piefed.zip scytale@piefed.zip
Joined: 2025-07-16
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It's okay they want this. They voted for this. They don't buy EVs because they don't want them.

I mean, some people can’t buy because they can’t afford them. Average EV prices in the US are still quite high.

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shirasho feddit.online shirasho@feddit.online
Joined: 2026-04-03
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I mean, some people can’t buy because they can’t afford them. Average EV prices in the US are still quite high.

This is by design. They dont want EVs to be popular, so they make them unaffordable to prevent widespread adoption. They dont even sell entry level EVs in the US. The Leaf may be the only exception.

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PapaSkwat lemmy.wtf PapaSkwat@lemmy.wtf
Joined: 2026-03-02
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I mean, some people can’t buy because they can’t afford them. Average EV prices in the US are still quite high.

I mean, some people can’t buy because they can’t afford them.

Exactly this. I'd love an EV, but I can't afford to buy one and can't afford the required upgrade to my hosue to charge on here.

I think a lot of people on Lemmy forget how much half of the population makes for salary. A lot of Lemmy's claim they got jobs that paid around $85K right out of college. Most of the population has never made that on any job in their life.

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AlphaOmega lemmy.world AlphaOmega@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-20
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I mean, some people can’t buy because they can’t afford them. Average EV prices in the US are still quite high.

Used EVs are cheap, or they were when I bought mine a few months back.

21k for a 22 ID 4 pro awd, plus 4k tax refund that costs 48k new. Almost zero maintenance, and I pay about 5 cents per mile.

I charge it with a tier 1 and an extension cord.

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