In Communist China, this women would have been afforded a pension, full health benefits, and housing five years earlier.

Which, I have heard, is also horrible

You aren't just wrong but also missing the point entirely

Those are crazy distances! Super impressive to be able to do that (ignoring why it might be necessary)

I never understood authoritarian leftist policies until recently. Now, I definitely still have my criticism of their implementations and conditions. But, man, the actual purpose of them make a lot of sense.

Like, what are we supposed to do when a massive part of the population is currently cheering on "bombed them to the stone age" and "destroy their entire civilization".

Like, we gotta do something about that at some point. We just let absolute genocidal freaks poison our society forever? At some point you gotta do some reeducation. I'm open to other ideas on what to do. But I definitely understand the purpose better now.

Seems like someone like you might not fit the criteria. Maybe you are just enrolled in some weekend classes or something.

Citation needed.

China has the world's largest social security net

That's the problem with these structures once they are created you hand them over to anyone who is able to use them.

I understand why these policies were implemented, in any serious communist government that wants to stay communist, but if the wrong people from inside or outside get to it, many people will suffer.

NB: I'm an anarchist, so I support Marxist revolutions and then get killed by said revolutions ...

I'm not sure it makes sense, thats like 6 hours of walking one way. Maybe she's speed walking but still how fast could she go?

Sorry, I thought it was obvious I was talking about a post revolution society. Basically, the Parenti line of "After the revolution the liberals always ask 'Will there be freedom for the fascist?! Can they have their newspapers!?'"

I understand the authoritarian leftist policies that are needed in that stage of development.

I'll bet it's a story of "well my car broke down and my job doesn't pay enough to get it fixed, so it was either walk or get fired (and thus lose health insurance and the pay that's keeping a roof over my head)." Seen it enough in my lifetime - a coworker used to walk 4 miles down the highway to his workplace for the same reason.

This implies that you got killed more than once. How did you survive that?

It's so weird people say this when historically leftist states do actually end authoritarian policies. Like, the gulags were literally closed. Not to mention countless examples of China ending once needed and now no longer needed policies.

I think Anarchist live in a fantasy world sometimes and just like saying "the state never gives up power". It's like you guys try to apply the same theory to a bourgeoise run state and a proletariat run state under a communist party. History literally shows you they are massively different.

Can you maybe offer constructive criticism on how to improve them instead of just blindly acting like state power is some universal evil. After awhile it really just starts to sound like religious dogma. Like the state is some underworld character that you have to defeat.

This woman. These women.

I'm not sure people who want to shit on China will trust a gov.cn website, regardless of the content

Walks through what? Nuclear fallout? She looks 90.

You are right! I have been defeated by reason and logic.

I don't expect them to. Even if I provided a link from whatever their approved list of sources happens to be I doubt I'd get real engagement anyway. It's mostly for interested third parties.

people like you are the reason gulags will be necessary

not too far from modern suburbia

Uphill both ways? With a hot potato in her pocket to keep her warm and eat for lunch? Yeah, my grandpa told me that story.

I'm saying I don't think its feasible whether she would put up with it or not.

If she's walking 12 hours a day for an 8 hour shift, she has 4 hours to sleep and eat? I think someone's exaggerating here or something. I'm leaning towards the story is fake, but I haven't really tried to verify it.

Thank you for that input Adolf. Tell us more about how much you hate all the subhumans who don't subscribe to your liberal fairytale interpretation of reality.

You really don't understand China lmao

She were lucky!

I'll do us both a favor and not waste my time trying to respond to your stupidity.

But they have cameras! Cameras!

Traffic cameras are so dystopian, just ignore the 95+% government approval rate (according to harvard not the CPC), the whole process peoples democracy, the poverty alleviation, the corruption crackdowns. More cameras clearly means more dystopia.

Ugh, that's the worst! My condolences

Believe what? A Harvard study and my own experience being born and raised here? Ah well I suppose we're just subhuman "authoritarians" in your eyes for being proud of all that our government has done for us and seeing it listen and react to our demands.

Harvard

Also:

Yes Adolf we get it you think we're all subhuman, that our experiences and views are entirely irrelevant and we just don't know better and you the liberal Ubermensch know what's best for us, to civilise us savages to your so amazing ways.

people who want to shit on China

Won't believe anything that doesn't shit on China.

Open your mind dude. Stop falling for western propaganda

tankie shit

Is when you have a 55 year retirement age instead of a 50 year retirement age?

It looks like she only walked home from work, and didn't need to walk both ways. I can't confirm if she was getting full-time hours at work.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/11/04/gofundme-fedex-worker-darlene-quinn-12-mile-walk/4154337002/

She is likely taking about 4 hours to walk each way.
I had to walk 18km to and from work for a while, but I was (likely) in better shape than her, so the 18 km took me three hours.

You'd look that way too, sun/weather exposure, perhaps tooth/gum loss for no access to medical care, especially dental. Perhaps lived a lifetime of trauma, as a kid, then a wife.

I live in a neighborhood where this is daily life for most people. But privilege won't believe it unless it happens to themselves.

not helping your case there by immediately exposing yourself as a racist 🤣

I don't know, I think it's good to somewhat push people to confront their contradictions, and they won't if they think the claim cannot be trusted. If the claim is made by some lib source they trust though? At least they would have to confront the facts and couldn't dismiss them outright.

That is if they're discussing (or just reading) in good faith

I think it's important in public spaces especially, where the person you're discussing with is not the only one reading the messages & people of varying political stances are around. In that context, a NYT article that is pro-china (could happen in some instances I'm sure, lol) will be far more impactful than an official statement from the PRC

you gotta have a mind to open it though

"civilized." Tell me, is the government supported genocide of Palestine, Cuba, Iran "civilized?"

Yeah that does make more sense, fair enough! I remember reading about this when it happened back then too.

Probably because she’s got to walk 12-24 miles (unclear if 12mi one way or round trip) and also work six days a week and probably has for many years. That takes a toll on the body, not to mention she’s probably missing out on fully homemade meals because she’s got no time to cook, so she’s ingesting more salt and sugar and microplastics (the added fat is probably balanced out by the walking, but the rest isn’t necessarily) as well as spending more time in the sun, wind, and exposed to exhaust particles and other traffic pollution than most people her age.

Well go ahead and educate someone who is apparently too privileged.