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ExLisper lemmy.curiana.net ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net
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#52 · Quote Reply

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Hungary did not elect a prime minister, it elected a parliament. The new govnernment incl the prime minister is just a consequence of parliamentary majorities, which changed.

Each party elects their party leader before the elections. The party leader pretty much represents the party during the electoral campaign. The system in Hungary is mixed so people vote both for a specific candidate from their district and party as a whole. The elections are as much about electing the next PM as the next majority party. In US you first choose representatives and then they vote for the Speaker of the House. You don't really know who will hold this office when voting for one party or another in the midterms.

While that won’t push the US president out if power, it could turn him into a lame duck.

Trump rules by executive orders. A lot of things he does require congressional approval and he just blatantly ignores the law. The courts already confirmed that everything he does is legal and that even his illegal decisions are biding. Midterms will not turn him into a lame duck.

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MousePotatoDoesStuff lemmy.world MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-03-09
#53 · Quote Reply

Can't we go Full Nepal?

In the words of a teacher:

I don't know. Can you?

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MousePotatoDoesStuff lemmy.world MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-03-09
#54 · Quote Reply

Conviction in an impeachment trial needs 67 votes. They currently hold 45 seats. In order to get to 67, they'd need a clean sweep of all Senate races.

67

god damnit

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coyootje lemmy.world coyootje@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-30
#55 · Quote Reply

Even if they aren't, they are satisfied with status quo apparently.

Well I have been hearing them complain more about it being more difficult to make ends meet. Perhaps that'll finally make them rethink their political stance.

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FrowingFostek lemmy.world FrowingFostek@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-21
#56 · Quote Reply

Didn't they just end up electing another conservative?

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Hubi feddit.org Hubi@feddit.org
Joined: 2024-06-22
#57 · Quote Reply

Didn't they just end up electing another conservative?

Conservative by European standards. Some of his policies would be called radical socialism in the US.

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fuck_u_spez_in_particular lemmy.world fuck_u_spez_in_particular@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-24
#58 · Quote Reply

If Democrats think we’re mad now wait till they see how mad we get if we give them a supermajority and they don’t do anything.

As someone else said here, vote in the primaries!

https://www.ncsl.org/elections-and-campaigns/2026-state-primary-election-dates

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fuck_u_spez_in_particular lemmy.world fuck_u_spez_in_particular@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-24
#59 · Quote Reply

Well I have been hearing them complain more about it being more difficult to make ends meet. Perhaps that'll finally make them rethink their political stance.

I mean just stating the endless facts, would be enough for a somewhat sane person to grasp how fucking awful this current administration is. There's endless fuel every day. Just collect a list of the worst stuff, you can still fill the whole day with a fairly neutral list of facts... That should be enough motivation to vote them away...

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Tonava sopuli.xyz Tonava@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2025-05-18
#60 · Quote Reply

Didn't they just end up electing another conservative?
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msage programming.dev msage@programming.dev
Joined: 2023-06-12
#61 · Quote Reply

I mean just stating the endless facts, would be enough for a somewhat sane person to grasp how fucking awful this current administration is. There's endless fuel every day. Just collect a list of the worst stuff, you can still fill the whole day with a fairly neutral list of facts... That should be enough motivation to vote them away...

But if they don't care, some facts won't change that.

And if they believe that Kamala would have been worse, you are done.

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fuck_u_spez_in_particular lemmy.world fuck_u_spez_in_particular@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-24
#62 · Quote Reply

But if they don't care, some facts won't change that. And if they believe that Kamala would have been worse, you are done.

sane person

If you don't care about getting poorer everyday, well you probably aren't a sane person. Unfortunately the amount of insane people in the US seems to be growing for some time I guess...

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AItoothbrush lemmy.zip AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2023-06-12
#63 · Quote Reply

Conservative by European standards. Some of his policies would be called radical socialism in the US.

Most of policies actually lol. Here hes a conservative right winger but in the usa he would count as a radical liberal communist at this point.

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kittenzrulz123 lemmy.dbzer0.com kittenzrulz123@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-07-31
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#64 · Quote Reply

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He's still a conservative, being pro EU only means he wants to push far right policies on the EU as well.

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kittenzrulz123 lemmy.dbzer0.com kittenzrulz123@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-07-31
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#65 · Quote Reply

So fill congress with people who are better on one specific issue but practically the same on every other issue? Congratulations, we could be guaranteed a Republican victory in 2028 as Dems will become widely known as the party that does nothing but get in the way.

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null piefed.nullspace.lol null@piefed.nullspace.lol
Joined: 2025-10-14
#66 · (edited) Quote Reply

Stole this image from my feed. I didn't even have to do any research and found an example. But you don't like my argument, so I must be wrong. How's that for "cute", dumbass?

Oh no, some random tweet?? Whatever will I do!

Have you actually used any braincells to engage with it? Or did you see it, race over here to comment, and forget to actually think?

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Jiral lemmy.org Jiral@lemmy.org
Joined: 2026-03-07
#67 · Quote Reply

Hungary did not elect a prime minister, it elected a parliament. The new govnernment incl the prime minister is just a consequence of parliamentary majorities, which changed. Each party elects their party leader before the elections. The party leader pretty much represents the party during the electoral campaign. The system in Hungary is mixed so people vote both for a specific candidate from t...
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End-Stage-Ligma lemmy.world end_stage_ligma@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-18
#68 · (edited) Quote Reply

Vote in the fucking primaries so you can get better democrats.

Voted for Bernie

DNC: "best I can do is HRC"

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TypFaffke feddit.org TypFaffke@feddit.org
Joined: 2024-07-31
#69 · Quote Reply

Maybe get JD Vance to endorse Republicans? That should finish them off

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ExLisper lemmy.curiana.net ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net
Joined: 2025-03-22
#70 · Quote Reply

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Still these votes are for Parliament/MPs on the ballot, not the prime minister directly, aren’t they. Yes, parties will campaign with a certain perdon as prime minister in mind, but that position is not directly elected, is it?

Technically yes, people vote for MPs but PM is running the government by selecting ministers and prioritizing the legislation and this is how he gets elected. There's a great focus placed on the party leaders in the campaign and the person tagged to be the PM has huge impact on how people vote. The party can change him (and sometimes they do) but it's still very important during the campaign.

In US on the other hand the midterms do not serve to elect on confirm party leadership in any way. Party leaders have job to do but they will not be running the government if their party wins.

Trump can only rule by executive orders because the other institutions let him and majd no fuss. Things would get a whole lot mire diffucult for him if the majority in the legislative actually did make a fuss about it.

The supreme court lets him. The legislative has nothing to do with it. Democratic leaders can make a fuss about things now but they don't because they are useless. They will be as useless when they are majority. Of course you should vote for democrats now because humiliating Trump will be great for everyone but this will not fix the country the way elections in Hungary can. Those elections are not equivalent in any way.

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Kazumara discuss.tchncs.de Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2024-04-13
#71 · Quote Reply

Didn't they just end up electing another conservative?

Peter Magyar was even in Victor Orban's Party "Fidesz", and formerly the husband of Orban's Justice Minister Judit Varga. Then two years ago there was a schism over a pardon of someone who covered up child abuse.

His new party "Tisza" is conservative, centre-right, but also pro-European and anti-corruption. I hope it wasn't a mask that drops soon, but I don't know enough about their politics, to say much.

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DylanMc6 [any, any] lemmy.dbzer0.com DylanMc6@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-12-04
#72 · Quote Reply

Revolution is inevitable

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tburkhol lemmy.world tburkhol@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-15
#73 · Quote Reply

Voted for Bernie DNC: "best I can do is HRC"

Keep at it, or people like Bernie won't even try.

Down ballot is even more important, because those are races you can affect. There's only 15-20,000 people voting in most US House primaries.

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Widukin lemmy.dbzer0.com Widukin@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-02-17
#74 · Quote Reply

Peter Magyar was even in Victor Orban's Party "Fidesz", and formerly the husband of Orban's Justice Minister Judit Varga. Then two years ago there was a schism over a pardon of someone who covered up child abuse. His new party "Tisza" is conservative, centre-right, but also pro-European and anti-corruption. I hope it wasn't a mask that drops soon, but I don't know enough about their politics, t...

You're right. One thing important thing I would add is that he's also anti-Putin. He will also put Hungary back into the ICC.

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melsaskca lemmy.ca melsaskca@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2025-03-09
#75 · Quote Reply

Paula Poundstone is doing her part, above and beyond the call of duty for any patriot. Go post-trump USA!

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Valmond lemmy.dbzer0.com Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-11-13
#76 · Quote Reply

Eat the what?

The big orange chicken!

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msage programming.dev msage@programming.dev
Joined: 2023-06-12
#77 · Quote Reply

sane person If you don't care about getting poorer everyday, well you probably aren't a sane person. Unfortunately the amount of insane people in the US seems to be growing for some time I guess...

If they don't care about politics at this point, I can't declare them sane by any means.

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BeardededSquidward lemmy.blahaj.zone BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2025-12-04
#78 · Quote Reply

So fill congress with people who are better on one specific issue but practically the same on every other issue? Congratulations, we could be guaranteed a Republican victory in 2028 as Dems will become widely known as the party that does nothing but get in the way.

Excuse me, it's two issues. The rest is business as usual at best.

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Jiral lemmy.org Jiral@lemmy.org
Joined: 2026-03-07
#79 · Quote Reply

Still these votes are for Parliament/MPs on the ballot, not the prime minister directly, aren’t they. Yes, parties will campaign with a certain perdon as prime minister in mind, but that position is not directly elected, is it? Technically yes, people vote for MPs but PM is running the government by selecting ministers and prioritizing the legislation and this is how he gets elected. There's a ...
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kittenzrulz123 lemmy.dbzer0.com kittenzrulz123@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-07-31
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#80 · Quote Reply

Excuse me, it's two issues. The rest is business as usual at best.

I would personally consider Ukraine and the EU to be the same issue since he's only supporting Ukraine to get in line with the EU policy (he doesn't support Ukrainian entry into the EU and opposes sending military aid)

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ExLisper lemmy.curiana.net ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net
Joined: 2025-03-22
#81 · Quote Reply

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Trump is nervous because he's a psycho who needs constant validation and humiliation in midterms can damage his image of beloved leader.

His agenda is fine. All the institutions are already dismantled. DOGE already fired everyone that can be fired, they got the budget they wanted, billionaires got their tax cuts. What will democrats do with the majority? Republicans will filibuster everything, Trump will not sign anything they will pass. Will they provoke another shutdown? Remember how the last one ended? Democrats folded. The midterms will not change Democratic leadership. You can cling on to technicalities but the midterms will not Budapest anything because the system is completely different.

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FrowingFostek lemmy.world FrowingFostek@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-21
#82 · Quote Reply

Conservative by European standards. Some of his policies would be called radical socialism in the US.

That's interesting. Which policies would you be referring to?

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Barbarian sh.itjust.works Barbarian@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-08
#83 · Quote Reply

That's interesting. Which policies would you be referring to?

Things like term limits, independent media, independent judiciary.

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Hubi feddit.org Hubi@feddit.org
Joined: 2024-06-22
#84 · Quote Reply

That's interesting. Which policies would you be referring to?

Higher taxes for the wealthy to fund social programs, universal healthcare, parental leave, increased minimum wages and worker protection to name a few things.

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FrowingFostek lemmy.world FrowingFostek@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-21
#85 · Quote Reply

Things like term limits, independent media, independent judiciary.

Gotcha, so he's more of an institutionalist.

I'm not in favor of autocrats so I agree it's a win that Orban is gone. From an american perspective, I'd still consider him conservative even if his objectives are to strengthen institutions.

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FrowingFostek lemmy.world FrowingFostek@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-21
#86 · Quote Reply

Higher taxes for the wealthy to fund social programs, universal healthcare, parental leave, increased minimum wages and worker protection to name a few things.

Okay this is different from another reply I responded to. Those things sound radically more left leaning than him simply being an institutionalist.

Big if he could get this done, I hope he can.

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Barbarian sh.itjust.works Barbarian@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-08
#87 · (edited) Quote Reply

Gotcha, so he's more of an institutionalist. I'm not in favor of autocrats so I agree it's a win that Orban is gone. From an american perspective, I'd still consider him conservative even if his objectives are to strengthen institutions.

My response was more subtly tongue in cheek. He's absolutely an institutional reformer, and he has his work cut out for him so much that it would be shocking if he had the political space to do anything but that during his term.

I was poking fun at how even letting the judiciary do their jobs in the US seems to be accompanied with screeching about "RADICAL LEFTIST JUDGES", media capture in the US with the FTC, and Trump's repeated floating about removing term limits to stay in power (which also, incidentally, are the things that Tisza is focusing on fixing in Hungary).

The thing is, the stuff the other commenter was pointing at is the status quo atm. It's not so much that he's for those things, he just doesn't want to rock the boat while he has so much to do already.

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