While I agree with the sentiment, I'm not sure if the current democrats have enough of a spine to oust the sitting president, even if they get enough of a majority...

You think if the most unbelievable thing happened and a Democrat won every election to somehow hold both a majority in the House and 60 votes in the Senate, they wouldn’t toss him out?

Yeah it’s possible

Damn. Well that’s some quality cynicism.

Vote in the fucking primaries so you can get better democrats.

If Democrats think we’re mad now wait till they see how mad we get if we give them a supermajority and they don’t do anything.

Conviction in an impeachment trial needs 67 votes. They currently hold 45 seats. In order to get to 67, they'd need a clean sweep of all Senate races.

Is that TV's Frank?

even if they get enough of a majority...

And there's the rub.

The House is one thing, the Senate another. Only 1/3 of the current Senate seats go up for election, and the majority of seats up for vote that are currently held by Republicans are from very safe Republican stronghold states. I don't think there's a chance that the Dems get control of the Senate, even if they gain a couple seats.

As for the "problem" Dems, Fetterman isn't up for reelection. Schumer isn't up for reelection. Kaine isn't up for reelection. Shaheen and Durbin are at least retiring, but none of the other sellouts are on the ballot until 2028 at the earliest.

Best we can hope for is that the House flips to a Democratic majority (a supermajority is still beyond question) and that turns the next two years into an ineffectual lame duck Congress. But it's not like that'd be all that different from the situation right now anyways, because Trump has demonstrated he doesn't give a shit about Congress and will just issue illegal executive orders for everything he wants to do, while the courts twiddle their thumbs and maybe question the legality of his actions 10 years from now.

Didn't they literally just file a bill to get him removed...?

Even then, what's the over under on a convent count of turncoats that vote against because we "just need to come together and heal the nation."

We are all Hungary, and it's time to eat.

Holy shit I think it is

Tbf at this point it's well earned. The Republicans are still not switching positions about Epstein, the 25th and other things and their voters sure as hell did, so one can only conclude the more cynical position, that is, there is so much corruption it takes more than an elite sex abuse ring for the Republicans to finally do something.

Well, there's a pattern with this kind of thing. File a bill on a popular issue when they're in the minority, but just flat out ignore the issue when they've taken the majority.

Not feeling arsed enough to dig up examples, probably because I've given in to cynicism on the matter. But I doubt it would take much digging for anybody curious...

Edit: from my feed today-

Oh, wait, that doesn't happen, so I'm the one imaging things. 🙄

True enough

Budapest, Mozambique, take your pick.

There's no such pattern. You're talking out of your ass.

How many times do i have to say electorilism is not an answer and Magyar is also a far right ethnonationalist.

So, just get crushed?

Or did you have a pamphlet or something

Context? What happened in Budapest?

Hungarians kicked their trump to the moon. Bang zoom.

Sure, buddy. Whatever you say 🙄

Organize outside of government so many ways to do so from labor to support for various orgs to agtiting for political conscious on and on. Literally millions of ways.

"This is totally true, but I'm not going to give a single example. But trust me, it totally is".

Yawn.

I present to you the magic of doing two things at once.

Couldn't care less if you trust me. Don't even care about your misplaced trust in politicians. Your loss, after all.

I assure you it isn’t offered willingly, I wish I could say otherwise.

Eat the what?

or whom?

Cute.

Can't we go Full Nepal?

Do both! DO BOTH!

Does endorsement by their socialist and green parties mean nothing?

If they had elected Orban again, would that make positive change more likely?

If Magyar was lying and goes further right, is revolution somehow less possible than it has been? Especially if Orban loyalists are gone/not-on-his-side and Orban policies are actually undone in such a way that future elections are more fair? (though that actually assumes their left parties can actually gain traction)

the rich

hungarians voted Orbán out. he was basically their Trump

All those thing still only build awareness and rely on election to vote them out. I thought you're talking something more radical.

Trump for 16 consecutive years

Oh gee, i guess it's better to vote Trump then...

I am I was assuming you were going to answer about the lack of support such actions have and countered that by pointing out what to do while doing those actions so others will follow

Ah yes, the Schumer classic.

I agree with that sentiment, shame I'm not actually from the US. My in-laws are but they're (allegedly) too disconnected from politics to care. I still feel like they might be closeted Trumpers that don't want to openly say so but who knows.

I'd love to go full Nepal.

Our situation is way worse than Hungary. We need to go ”full France”.

Stole this image from my feed. I didn't even have to do any research and found an example.

But you don't like my argument, so I must be wrong.

How's that for "cute", dumbass?

!mst3k@lemmy.world

EDIT : I didn't realise it was Tv's Frank when I first saw the text of the post

Rile up your local gen Z today.

Even if they aren't, they are satisfied with status quo apparently.

Hungary elects their Prime Minister in parliamentary elections. US elects majority leader and speaker of the house in midterms (kind of). It looks like some people don't understand the difference.