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Anna's Archive Loses $322 Million Spotify Piracy Case Without a Fight * TorrentFreak
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sabreW4K3 lazysoci.al sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al
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durinn programming.dev emotional_soup_88@programming.dev
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How can I help?

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harrys_balzac lemmy.dbzer0.com harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2024-03-21
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Hopefully non-US registrars and governments will stand up to this abuse.

Those labels didn't suffer any damage. That's all money to line their pockets and push more AI slop, not to benefit human creators.

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bamboo lemmy.blahaj.zone bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2023-06-20
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Hopefully non-US registrars and governments will stand up to this abuse. Those labels didn't suffer any damage. That's all money to line their pockets and push more AI slop, not to benefit human creators.

On the bright side, they're unlikely to see a penny from it, and have incurred lawyer costs and time.

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harrys_balzac lemmy.dbzer0.com harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2024-03-21
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On the bright side, they're unlikely to see a penny from it, and have incurred lawyer costs and time.

True. Hopefully they spent lots on outside law firms. They'll get paid unless they stupidly said they'll just take a cut of the damages, like injury firms do.

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CorrectAlias piefed.blahaj.zone CorrectAlias@piefed.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2025-07-22
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Don't they need to find the owner to actually do the fine?

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themurphy lemmy.ml themurphy@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2024-03-28
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Don't they need to find the owner to actually do the fine?

Or they'll have an excuse to go hard core after them on an international level, because they are now wanted.

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superglue lemmy.dbzer0.com superglue@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2024-08-09
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Hopefully non-US registrars and governments will stand up to this abuse. Those labels didn't suffer any damage. That's all money to line their pockets and push more AI slop, not to benefit human creators.

Exactly. Spotifys value is in the convenient access to the content and its playlist curation. Who cares if all the music got downloaded, they didn't lose one single customer from it.

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_‌_反いじめ戦隊 ani.social AntiBullyRanger@ani.social
Joined: 2025-02-02
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#9 · Quote Reply

How can I help?

Spotify and record labels have headquarters…

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Pika sh.itjust.works Pika@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-08-15
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Shocking. Absolutely riveting outcome that wasn't expected whatsoever. /s

That being said though, the weirder part for me is the fact that apparently they weren't able to obtain the operatives behind the website. So this was essentially a court case that was filed, put into session and then given judgment without even ever identifying the defendants that are on trial.

That seems really weird to me.

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SuiXi3D fedia.io SuiXi3D@fedia.io
Joined: 2024-03-04
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Spotify and record labels have headquarters…

…and making molotovs is easy, from what I hear.

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_‌_反いじめ戦隊 ani.social AntiBullyRanger@ani.social
Joined: 2025-02-02
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…and making molotovs is easy, from what I hear.

Cheaper than this lawsuit, for sure.

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Dr. Unabart sh.itjust.works unabart@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2024-02-01
#13 · Quote Reply

Meanwhile, on Epstein Island...

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eleijeep piefed.social eleijeep@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-09-22
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AFAIK they haven't even posted the music. Only the metadata.

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Willoughby piefed.world Willoughby@piefed.world
Joined: 2026-02-01
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AFAIK they haven't even posted the music. Only the metadata.

5 years later

"What music? It was all a bluff."

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earthworm sh.itjust.works SnoringEarthworm@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-09-14
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Tl;dr: It's "give us $300 million (which we know you won't do), or we'll order everyone involved in hosting your site to give up your name and address."

For now, the monetary judgment is mostly a victory on paper, as recouping money from an unknown entity is impossible. For this reason, the music companies also requested a permanent injunction.

Permanent Injunction Targets Domains
In addition to the damages award, Rakoff entered a permanent worldwide injunction covering ten Anna’s Archive domains: annas-archive.org, .li, .se, .in, .pm, .gl, .ch, .pk, .gd, and .vg.

Domain registries and registrars of record, along with hosting and internet service providers, are ordered to permanently disable access to those domains, disable authoritative nameservers, cease hosting services, and preserve evidence that could identify the site’s operators.

The judgment names specific third parties bound by those obligations, including Public Interest Registry, Cloudflare, Switch Foundation, The Swedish Internet Foundation, Njalla SRL, IQWeb FZ-LLC, Immaterialism Ltd., Hosting Concepts B.V., Tucows Domains Inc., and OwnRegistrar, Inc.

Anna’s Archive is also ordered to destroy all copies of works scraped from Spotify and to file a compliance report within ten business days, under penalty of perjury, including valid contact information for the site and its managing agents. That last requirement could prove significant, given that the identity of the site’s operators remains unknown.

A Way Out, at a Price
In theory, Anna’s Archive has the option to prevent the domain suspension. The permanent injunction allows the site to seek relief from this measure, after showing that it has paid the full $322 million damages award and complied with all injunctive obligations.

That’s an unlikely option, to say the least. At the same time, however, it is not guaranteed that the site’s domain names will be suspended.

As reported previously, several domain names, including the Greenland-based .gl version, are linked to registries and registrars outside the jurisdiction of the U.S. court. As such, they previously did not comply to the preliminary injunction, and it is unknown whether the latest order changes that.

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stravanasu lemmy.ca pglpm@lemmy.ca
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Tl;dr: It's "give us $300 million (which we know you won't do), or we'll order everyone involved in hosting your site to give up your name and address." For now, the monetary judgment is mostly a victory on paper, as recouping money from an unknown entity is impossible. For this reason, the music companies also requested a permanent injunction. Permanent Injunction Targets Domains In addition t...

entered a permanent worldwide injunction

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far_university1990 reddthat.com far_university1990@reddthat.com
Joined: 2023-08-15
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…and making molotovs is easy, from what I hear.

One part coke, two part rum.

Do not, i repeat, DO NOT exchange the first for heating oil and the second for gas.

Danke Michael Elf Mayer.

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durinn programming.dev emotional_soup_88@programming.dev
Joined: 2025-11-22
#19 · (edited) Quote Reply

Spotify and record labels have headquarters…

I recently had this conversation in another community and realized that I have too much to lose. 💀 How about just keep seeding? 🤣

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Gerudo lemmy.zip Gerudo@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-06-28
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True. Hopefully they spent lots on outside law firms. They'll get paid unless they stupidly said they'll just take a cut of the damages, like injury firms do.

I'm sure it'll be a tax right off

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P03 Locke lemmy.dbzer0.com p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2023-06-23
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entered a permanent worldwide injunction

Anna's Archive should hire this same lawyer.

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quips slrpnk.net quips@slrpnk.net
Joined: 2026-01-08
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Tl;dr: It's "give us $300 million (which we know you won't do), or we'll order everyone involved in hosting your site to give up your name and address." For now, the monetary judgment is mostly a victory on paper, as recouping money from an unknown entity is impossible. For this reason, the music companies also requested a permanent injunction. Permanent Injunction Targets Domains In addition t...

Why are we working with centralized domain registers that capitulate to governments like this?

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dansemacabreingalone lemmy.dbzer0.com dansemacabreingalone@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2026-04-09
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Why are we working with centralized domain registers that capitulate to governments like this?

I think you answered your own question.

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dansemacabreingalone lemmy.dbzer0.com dansemacabreingalone@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2026-04-09
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I recently had this conversation in another community and realized that I have too much to lose. 💀 How about just keep seeding? 🤣

They have names and addresses

You do realize there are things you can do other than kill them? With a megaphone a caltrop a flaming bag of dog shit a hammer a really strong speaker...

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durinn programming.dev emotional_soup_88@programming.dev
Joined: 2025-11-22
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They have names and addresses You do realize there are things you can do other than kill them? With a megaphone a caltrop a flaming bag of dog shit a hammer a really strong speaker...

Waaay ahead of you:

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CorrectAlias piefed.blahaj.zone CorrectAlias@piefed.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2025-07-22
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Or they'll have an excuse to go hard core after them on an international level, because they are now wanted.

I kind of assumed that was already happening to be honest.

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dansemacabreingalone lemmy.dbzer0.com dansemacabreingalone@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2026-04-09
#27 · (edited) Quote Reply

Waaay ahead of you:

Also, they often have children. Children bully other children and can be bribed for very small amounts of money. No mercy. If they want justice they can start.

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durinn programming.dev emotional_soup_88@programming.dev
Joined: 2025-11-22
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Also, they often have children. Children bully other children and can be bribed for very small amounts of money. No mercy. If they want justice they can start.

This is getting out of hands. Good night. My cyber waifu is waiting for me.

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_‌_反いじめ戦隊 ani.social AntiBullyRanger@ani.social
Joined: 2025-02-02
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I recently had this conversation in another community and realized that I have too much to lose. 💀 How about just keep seeding? 🤣

ynb?

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anar lemmy.dbzer0.com 000@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2024-10-20
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Time to get an onion?

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Jul piefed.blahaj.zone irotsoma@piefed.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2025-09-25
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True. Hopefully they spent lots on outside law firms. They'll get paid unless they stupidly said they'll just take a cut of the damages, like injury firms do.

It's likely already budgeted for, so if it wasn't used for this attack, it would have gone to another fruitless attack. It's how they do business these days. The money isn't important. It's keeping the illusion of risk to pirating and thus illusion of value of their product. Basically, part of their marketing budget.

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musket528 sopuli.xyz musket528@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2026-04-14
#32 · Quote Reply

bro these freaks would better be paying more to their artists instead of lawyers to sue anonymous mfs who don't even care💀

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ParlimentOfDoom piefed.zip ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip
Joined: 2025-09-26
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Or they'll have an excuse to go hard core after them on an international level, because they are now wanted.

It's a civil suit. They're not wanted.

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Yosmonkol piefed.social Yosmonkol@piefed.social
Joined: 2026-02-07
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Shocking. Absolutely riveting outcome that wasn't expected whatsoever. /s That being said though, the weirder part for me is the fact that apparently they weren't able to obtain the operatives behind the website. So this was essentially a court case that was filed, put into session and then given judgment without even ever identifying the defendants that are on trial. That seems really weird to me.

A 'default judgement' is supposed to encourage appearance in court since ignoring a suit results in an automatic lose.

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Petter1 discuss.tchncs.de Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2025-07-01
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bro these freaks would better be paying more to their artists instead of lawyers to sue anonymous mfs who don't even care💀

Yes, as if they ever get that hypothetical money from Anna 🤣 it is just wasted money

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Chais sh.itjust.works Chais@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-12
#36 · Quote Reply

bro these freaks would better be paying more to their artists instead of lawyers to sue anonymous mfs who don't even care💀

Lawyers have the better ROI.

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brax sh.itjust.works brax@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-10-02
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What damages? Did people stop paying for their subscription because of the site having metadata? This is fucking pathetic... If people cancel their subscription because of the law suit will the lawyers he forced to sue themselves for damages?

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James Croll piefed.doomprepper.com jamescroll@piefed.doomprepper.com
Joined: 2026-04-19
#38 · (edited) Quote Reply

default judgment against the unknown operators of Anna's Archive.

So isn't this kinda like raising their fists up to the sky and screaming "reeeeeeeee!!"? They don't even know who they were suing. lol

I'm hoping it has no effect, since I use Anna's Archive almost every single day.

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