so, ban Them from those communities? why are we discussing a defederation from this instance when one user broke some community rule?

ok fair enough ig

Yes, capitalised U please and thank you very much.

I can understand why someone would be upset at My flippancy with the word conservative. For My part I was frustrated at being asked a question whose premises I fundamentally disagreed with. I couldn't come up with any honest answer to the question "when is conservatism acceptable" in that context, where it was obviously being loaded with meaning to imply that 1: the Dems are conservatives and 2: I am materially supporting conservative ideology by saying to vote for them. The question was laden with so much bullshit, I couldn't find any way to pick an honest nugget out of the shit with which to have a good faith conversation. So I flipped the script and threw the bullshit pile in the compost by going on a wild tangent about Indigenous conservatism, which ostensibly answered the question but gave the other person nothing that they wanted.

That's My attitude on these sorts of things - if you won't put in a basic level of good faith to ask Me questions that I can honestly answer, I'm not gonna answer those questions in good faith. There was no way for Me to answer that question with both good faith and honesty. I had to pick one. I chose honesty over good faith. I got frustrated and went "random bullshit go" over the alternative.

TL;DR: Ask stupid questions, get stupid answers

oh right, could u update the post to reflect this change? thanks

Hm, while this vote is technically passing, I have a concern about quorum. Do we really want to enforce a defederation with only 7 votes?

Edit : wait lemme check the bot didn't die instead

Edit2: nevermind the bot bugged out

Also, dbzer0 should probably be concerned by Flatworm changing the proposal after several days of voting, which they said they were gonna do in this comment

As an outsider, I find it weird that this instance warrants defederation when there's a lot of similar content/stances/trolls on mainstream "liberal" instances like lemmy.world, piefed.world etc. IMO community-wide bans would be more appropriate

Ah unruffled said, this ain't the supreme court. We don't fall for loophole. If people think they should allow your alts they can bring it up

Done 👍

Good pickup, dbo. The numbers look a lot more solid now.

Because the user is also the admin of the instance, and it's likely a lot of the users are just alts.

It's not misgendering to use impersonal pronouns in a sentence, Grail. Db0 wasn't even referring to You.

Whose alts?

If I come at you pretending to be one thing, then show I'm not really that, I'm just trying to get a rise out of you, that's bad faith, period.

it's likely a lot of the users are just alts.

please tell me this is more than conjecture.

is there at least one other user of that instance who is a known troll?

anything at all that suggests this is true, like an account "Grail2@multiverse.whatever.com"?

if not, then we might as well adopt the policy to defederate from any instance who has an admin that broke any community rule anywhere before, on the same basis.

Yours idiot.

Edit: Wait I forgot, They can't see my comments because They blocked me from Their server... Oh well 🤷‍♀️

lemmy.world and piefed.world might be getting the chopping block in the near future. Go check out the drama in !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com it's crazy.

as is tradition in lefty and lefty adjacent spaces.

some of the time we have to take it on the chin and act more welcoming to newcomers.

others we have to dedicate some energy to explaining why and how we got like this, and that their complacency needs challenged.

personally, it seems like right now we have more on the threadiverse of the former and less of the latter

Happy to see this vote succeed.

Being an accelerationist to my understanding is to want to use capitalism to cause radical social and economic change. If I'm wrong, please tell me.

Fact of the matter:Never supported, voted for, or defended Trump. I have voted against him despite my deep dislike of neo-liberal ideology because it's not actively destructive like reactionary ideology. If saying "This is a shit situation we're in, I hope something good can come out of it" then many people are such for hoping for better. I'm staunchly anti-capitalist to the point I'm going to but heads with people who give apologies for pro-capitalist ideologies, organizations, or people.