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hey
reddthat.com
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givesomefucks
lemmy.world
givesomefucks@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-30 |
The rule of 2 meant an apprentice took an apprentice and the two would over throw the master. That's why Dooku brought Anakin to the dark side. If the master found someone stronger than current apprentice, that's the new apprentice. So there were "only two"... But they probably both had constant feelers out. Both for potential allies and rivals. An apprentice might have dozens of potentials out there that they're talking to and tempting with power, hoping one gets strong enough to kill the current master. That's how the rule is passed down, every apprentice to a master either killed the last master with the last apprentice, or killed the last apprentice because "there can be only two". I think: Dooku saw that Anakin would quickly surpass himself. Even if he used Anakin to overthrow Palpatine, Anakin would immediately take out Dooku by gaining any competent apprentice. But if he just ignored Anakin, Palpatine would (and this is what happened) just replace Dooku with Anakin. So after Dooku realized he couldn't control Anakin, he knew that he had to kill Anakin immediately because he was constantly getting stronger and Palpatine had almost certainly found him. Palps tho had a hidden endgame, he wanted the strongest force user's body to put his own mind into. He wasn't afraid of Anakin's raw but untrained power, that was exactly what he wanted. Until Obiwan chopped off 3/4s of his body, ruining him as a host. It can be rationalized, but I doubt Lucas did it intentionally. |
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slazer2au
lemmy.world
slazer2au@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-30 |
My head canon is Dooku was never an apprentice to palps eyes, why would palp take on an apprentice who is older then him? |
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pistcow
lemmy.world
Pistcow@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-06-30 |
The rule of 2 meant an apprentice took an apprentice and the two would over throw the master. That's why Dooku brought Anakin to the dark side. If the master found someone stronger than current apprentice, that's the new apprentice. So there were "only two"... But they probably both had constant feelers out. Both for potential allies and rivals. An apprentice might have dozens of potentials out...
Wasn't the Rule of Two meant to stop all the infighting with the Sith but that just sounds like silo'd infighting. |
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tacosanonymous
mander.xyz
tacosanonymous@mander.xyz Joined: 2025-06-30 |
Wasn't the Rule of Two meant to stop all the infighting with the Sith but that just sounds like silo'd infighting.
No, it was implemented to stop twenty weaklings from killing a strong one. Bane thought their large numbers diluted the strength of the individual. |
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tinned_tomatoes
feddit.uk
tinned_tomatoes@feddit.ukJoined: 2023-07-09 |
The rule of 2 meant an apprentice took an apprentice and the two would over throw the master. That's why Dooku brought Anakin to the dark side. If the master found someone stronger than current apprentice, that's the new apprentice. So there were "only two"... But they probably both had constant feelers out. Both for potential allies and rivals. An apprentice might have dozens of potentials out...
Had no idea of any of this stuff. Is that even in the movies? |
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CyberEgg
discuss.tchncs.de
CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.deJoined: 2023-06-22 |
Wasn't the Rule of Two meant to stop all the infighting with the Sith but that just sounds like silo'd infighting.
No. Darth Bane implemented the Rule of Two for two reasons, to ensure the Sith could stay under the Jedi's radar and operate in secrecy, and to turn the infighting from a weakness into a strength. |
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forrgott
lemmy.zip
forrgott@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-08-17 |
Palps tho had a hidden endgame, he wanted the strongest force user's body to put his own mind into. He wasn't afraid of Anakin's raw but untrained power, that was exactly what he wanted. Until Obiwan chopped off 3/4s of his body, ruining him as a host. Had no idea of any of this stuff. Is that even in the movies?
Well, it's the best explanation I've seen yet for that sorry ass line, "somehow he's back". (Referring to Palpatine) |
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rudyharrelson
lemmy.radio
rudyharrelson@lemmy.radioJoined: 2024-07-03 |
My head canon is Dooku was never an apprentice to palps eyes, why would palp take on an apprentice who is older then him?
Why would he care? Dooku was a means to an end, like all Sith apprentices. Palpatine could care less if Dooku kicks the bucket from old age after learning the ways of the Dark Side as long as Dooku helped Palpatine achieve his goals. Though given Palpatine's clairvoyance, he probably knew Dooku wouldn't die of old age. Most Sith don't. |
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hemko
lemmy.dbzer0.com
hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2023-07-03 |
My head canon is Dooku was never an apprentice to palps eyes, why would palp take on an apprentice who is older then him?
Dooku wanted Anakin to become his apprentice, so they could overpower Palpatine |
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givesomefucks
lemmy.world
givesomefucks@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-30 |
Palps tho had a hidden endgame, he wanted the strongest force user's body to put his own mind into. He wasn't afraid of Anakin's raw but untrained power, that was exactly what he wanted. Until Obiwan chopped off 3/4s of his body, ruining him as a host. Had no idea of any of this stuff. Is that even in the movies?
Maybe it was harvesting out the midichlorines to put in clones? |
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givesomefucks
lemmy.world
givesomefucks@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-30 |
No. Darth Bane implemented the Rule of Two for two reasons, to ensure the Sith could stay under the Jedi's radar and operate in secrecy, and to turn the infighting from a weakness into a strength. Prior to Ruusan, the Sith's greed and ambition often led to several weaker Sith plotting together to take down more powerful Sith in higher ranks. That meant that over time, positions of power were fi...
Same as whyy Highlander duels had to be 1v1 |
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WhiskyTangoFoxtrot
lemmy.world
WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-10 |
Dooku wanted Anakin to become his apprentice, so they could overpower Palpatine
I think he'd rather have had Obi-Wan. He offered to join forces with him; he just taunted Anakin. |
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calcopiritus
lemmy.world
calcopiritus@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-09-02 |
Palps tho had a hidden endgame, he wanted the strongest force user's body to put his own mind into. He wasn't afraid of Anakin's raw but untrained power, that was exactly what he wanted. Until Obiwan chopped off 3/4s of his body, ruining him as a host. Had no idea of any of this stuff. Is that even in the movies?
No. Maybe in the last one. Since I haven't seen it and just pretend doesn't exist |
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VindictiveJudge
lemmy.world
VindictiveJudge@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-30 |
My head canon is Dooku was never an apprentice to palps eyes, why would palp take on an apprentice who is older then him?
Ultimately, Dooku's status as an apprentice or not is irrelevant because Palpatine never gave a damn about the Rule of Two. Palps is the logical end result of that system - a greedy sociopath who cares only about himself and his own power with no regard to ideology or what happens when he's gone. Palpatine had Dooku and Maul as apprentices simultaneously while mostly keeping their existences secret from each other because neither of them were intended to replace him, but to be specialized tools with different purposes. Maul was an assassin meant to kill his enemies without being traced back to him, and Dooku was there to stage false-flag attacks so he could increase his political power. Enforcing the Rule of Two on them and making them fight to be his only apprentice would have been detrimental to his personal plans, the Sith as an organization be damned. He was also totally fine with Dooku blatantly violating the Rule of Two by openly training Ventress right up until he thought Dooku and Ventress might be able to overthrow him, at which point he suddenly started enforcing it by making Dooku kill Ventress. |
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wonderingwanderer
sopuli.xyz
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyzJoined: 2025-12-31 |
Well, it's the best explanation I've seen yet for that sorry ass line, "somehow he's back". (Referring to Palpatine)
Let's not pretend anything from the sequels is canon. |
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null
lemmy.org
null@lemmy.org Joined: 2026-02-21 |
Palps tho had a hidden endgame, he wanted the strongest force user's body to put his own mind into. He wasn't afraid of Anakin's raw but untrained power, that was exactly what he wanted. Until Obiwan chopped off 3/4s of his body, ruining him as a host. Had no idea of any of this stuff. Is that even in the movies?
It sounds like some book stuff before Disney canon. |
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explodicle
sh.itjust.works
explodicle@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2024-04-11 |
My head canon is Dooku was never an apprentice to palps eyes, why would palp take on an apprentice who is older then him?
The Sith have all sorts of nefarious forms of life extension. |
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Law Abiding VPN User
feddit.org
ThatGuyNamedZeus@feddit.org Joined: 2024-12-12 |
Palps told Dooku that the rule of 2 would stop with them and that they weren't going to kill each other |
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Noodle07
lemmy.world
Noodle07@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-20 |
No, it was implemented to stop twenty weaklings from killing a strong one. Bane thought their large numbers diluted the strength of the individual.
Anakin found a solution for young weaklings |
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F_State
midwest.social
F_State@midwest.social Joined: 2025-09-24 |
The Rule of Two was one of Lucas's dumber prequel misteps. The Sith, a group notorious for breaking rules and notorious for intrigue are going to have a Rule of Two and stick to it? I think not. |
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hey
reddthat.com
hey@reddthat.comJoined: 2026-04-13 |
The Rule of Two was one of Lucas's dumber prequel misteps. The Sith, a group notorious for breaking rules and notorious for intrigue are going to have a Rule of Two and stick to it? I think not.
Yeah, it never made much sense to me |
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root
lemmy.wtf
IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtfJoined: 2026-03-31 |
The Rule of Two was one of Lucas's dumber prequel misteps. The Sith, a group notorious for breaking rules and notorious for intrigue are going to have a Rule of Two and stick to it? I think not.
it was more of a formality the rule of two was being broken over and over |
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root
lemmy.wtf
IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtfJoined: 2026-03-31 |
it was more of a formality the rule of two was being broken over and over
and it was more of a "YOU ARE WEAK AND NEED MORE THAN ONE APPRENTICE" rule instead of a "NOO YOURE IMMORAL" rule |
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