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Nemeski
piefed.social
nemeski@piefed.social Joined: 2025-11-03 |
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jafra
slrpnk.net
jafra@slrpnk.netJoined: 2025-08-17 |
How long will it take for them to learn the fediverse is resilient? |
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tofu
lemmy.nocturnal.garden
tofu@lemmy.nocturnal.garden Joined: 2025-03-04 |
How long will it take for them to learn the fediverse is resilient?
Who do you mean with them? |
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The Picard Maneuver
lemmy.world
The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-22 |
At least Mastodon is properly federated. The benefits of decentralization sort of make this a waste of money/resources, right? I remember when this was happening to Lemmy all the time too. |
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tofu
lemmy.nocturnal.garden
tofu@lemmy.nocturnal.garden Joined: 2025-03-04 |
At least Mastodon is properly federated. The benefits of decentralization sort of make this a waste of money/resources, right? I remember when this was happening to Lemmy all the time too.
Depends on what your goal is. .social has half a million active users every month, so it certainly had some impact |
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America
sh.itjust.works
Gullible@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2023-08-09 |
How long will it take for them to learn the fediverse is resilient?
For all we know, they achieved their goal, irrespective of .social’s uptime. |
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Goodlucksil
lemmy.dbzer0.com
Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2025-08-15 |
Who do you mean with them?
The DDoS perpetrators |
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tofu
lemmy.nocturnal.garden
tofu@lemmy.nocturnal.garden Joined: 2025-03-04 |
The DDoS perpetrators
Well they targeted the biggest instance. Their attack didn't stop mastodon as a whole, but many users were impacted |
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Hegar
fedia.io
Hegar@fedia.ioJoined: 2024-06-26 |
At least Mastodon is properly federated. The benefits of decentralization sort of make this a waste of money/resources, right? I remember when this was happening to Lemmy all the time too.
Given that bluesky was hit a few days ago, could be a threat actor gauging the defenses/responses of 2nd tier targets. I wouldn't put it past musk to use ddos to generate bad press for non-x socials either. Plenty of ways this could be worth someone's resources even if complete take down isn't on the table. |
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onlinepersona
programming.dev
onlinepersona@programming.dev Joined: 2023-09-01 |
We need more DDOS attacks on Xitter. Wouldn't it be great if Xitter became so unstable people willingly left? |
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Foni
piefed.zip
Foni@piefed.zipJoined: 2025-12-04 |
Depends on what your goal is. .social has half a million active users every month, so it certainly had some impact
What fraction of the total users is that? |
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rainwall
piefed.social
rainwall@piefed.social Joined: 2025-07-17 |
What fraction of the total users is that?
About 30% looks like. |
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jafra
slrpnk.net
jafra@slrpnk.netJoined: 2025-08-17 |
For all we know, they achieved their goal, irrespective of .social’s uptime.
Do ddos open up the server? My naive understanding is it only hinders its reachability? |
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SharkAttak
kbin.melroy.org
SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.orgJoined: 2024-09-23 |
Who do you mean with them?
them' mofuckers. |
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jafra
slrpnk.net
jafra@slrpnk.netJoined: 2025-08-17 |
Well they targeted the biggest instance. Their attack didn't stop mastodon as a whole, but many users were impacted
Maybe it was about silencing s/o on this instance for some time. Idk. |
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America
sh.itjust.works
Gullible@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2023-08-09 |
Do ddos open up the server? My naive understanding is it only hinders its reachability?
They can, but usually don’t. I’ve heard of systems being vulnerable to attack when resource usage is completely maximized. They can definitely cover up an intrusion or test a botnet, though, and I suspect this was a botnet test. Mastodon users overwhelmingly strike me as not worth unmasking. (And that’s a good thing) |
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FreeBooteR69
lemmy.ca
FreeBooteR69@lemmy.caJoined: 2021-01-14 |
Maybe it was about silencing s/o on this instance for some time. Idk.
Sure but it is ultimately futile because Mastodon, using the ActivityPub protocol, aka The Fediverse, can't be completely shut down. Somebody ddos's one instance, well there are other instances you can join to easily defeat the ddos. |
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scytale
piefed.zip
scytale@piefed.zip Joined: 2025-07-16 |
How long will it take for them to learn the fediverse is resilient?
Depends on their goal. They still inconvenienced a significant amount of people on Mastodon, especially since the flagship instance has a lot of users. Of course if this causes users to spread out to other instances, then I guess that's a net good thing and can be attributed to fediverse resiliency. |
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🌞 Alexander Daychilde 🌞
lemmy.world
daychilde@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-13 |
Sure but it is ultimately futile because Mastodon, using the ActivityPub protocol, aka The Fediverse, can't be completely shut down. Somebody ddos's one instance, well there are other instances you can join to easily defeat the ddos.
You make a good point, however a counterpoint: Instance information is not hidden. It would be relatively trivial for a bad actor with resources to DDOS one instance to add other instances. |
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Sl00k
programming.dev
Sl00k@programming.dev Joined: 2023-06-22 |
Given that bluesky was hit a few days ago, could be a threat actor gauging the defenses/responses of 2nd tier targets. I wouldn't put it past musk to use ddos to generate bad press for non-x socials either. Plenty of ways this could be worth someone's resources even if complete take down isn't on the table.
This actually ended up not being an external DDOS. They shipped some code that ended up hammering their servers. |
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Jupiter Rowland
sh.itjust.works
JupiterRowland@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2023-06-25 |
What fraction of the total users is that?
Some 22% of the entire Fediverse (except Threads). |
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Jupiter Rowland
sh.itjust.works
JupiterRowland@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2023-06-25 |
This actually ended up not being an external DDOS. They shipped some code that ended up hammering their servers.
Old and busted: Mastodon DDoSes the non-Mastodon Fediverse due to design decisions. New hotness: Mastodon DDoSes itself due to design decisions. |
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