cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/46206701

One of the identifiers of fascism is that one's enemy is strong, needing to be stopped, and so weak they could never resist us.

Not to mention that they blew up the supreme leader who had issued a complete and total ban on nuclear weapons

Anyone that hasn’t read Umberto Eco’s essay Ur Fascism that this notion is from should get on it.

If anything, it underscores the importance of actually having nuclear weapons as a deterrence. If Iran actually did have nukes we would not be picking fights with them

Ukraine as well. One is a story about why you should try to aquire nuclear weapons as quickly as possible and the other is a story about why you should never give them up, even if you think it's a bad idea that you have them and have serious doubts that you could maintain them safely or use them effectively.

It's like goddamned advertising for nukes.

Does Iran even need a full fledged navy to keep the straight closed? The straight is narrow. A couple of gun boats and missiles launched from shore would be enough to keep most commercial shipping out.

... In the shithouse that Donald built.

Sure but st the same time. If iran was seeking a nuke years ago . The usa eould have attacked earlier when Iran was weaker

While true the fatwa do not get removed by the desth of the supreme leader. The new one should remove it. It doesn't seem the fatwa with be removed

because Iran is weeks away from building the atomic bomb since 1995

It never occurred to me that the beef the US has with other countries having nukes is because it would put them on even footing. No nukes = no leverage.

TBF lots of countries think everyone having nukes is a bad idea. It's just so nice to be one of the few that does...

only three countries have ever had nukes and willingly handed them over to de-escalate tensions about everyone having nukes: Ukraine, Belarus, and Pakistan. All three are consistent battlegrounds of the global northern empires now. the nuclear countries have demonstrated, it seems, to the global south that the adults table at the UN is who has nukes and if you get nukes and give them up, you will be punished for your good faith

What about South Africa?

Uhh, Pakistan still has a bunch of nukes, Kazakhstan gave theirs up at the same time as the other two, and South Africa had them and gave them up. Also there's no war in Pakistan, and only war at a low level in Belarus (and they're the aggressor).

thanks. i wrote that up real fast and i got my countries mixed up. and in the case of Belarus what i was talking about is that their existence as a russian colony has been perhaps more strongly cemented than back when they were a union republic of the ussr

Pakistan couldn't lose their nukes, they need them to MAD with India

yeah i don't even know why in my head i didn't flag that when i was literally thinking about how anxiety inducing it is how many of the nations with nukes are run by authoritarian freaks

While I agree broadly with what you said, Pakistan has kept their nukes, and is therefore quite independent. Belarus is also fine, since they're a Russian protectorate.

They can attack ships with drones or even cannons. You don't even need to hit every ship. Even one in every ten will send insurance rates to the moon.

This basically applies to not only the US and Israel, but also to what Russia does towards Ukraine.

Well yeah then they wouldn't be able to jack boot their way around the world causing problems.

Imagine how much better it would be if the US military had maybe 10% less funding and that money was spent on infrastructure or social services. Can't have that so they have to justify the massive military expense by having nearly constant wars. If no obvious conflict presents itself, invent one, and then lose.

That is kind of true though, but months rather than weeks.

The thing is, if a guy has a disassembled rifle on the table in front of him and you have a ready gun trained on him, he is minutes away from having a functional rifle but he will always remain so.

Exactly. It's textbook nazi propaganda, where they said that the jews are a subhuman, degenerated race, but they also somehow insiduously control the entire world from the shadows. Like which is it now? Below or above typical intelligence and power? Both, in the world of the fascists.

It applies everywhere there is a populist political agitation. The immigrants are parasitic freeloaders and they are here to steal your job!

I found it "interesting" that this happened when people were taking over the streets of Tehran so fiercely