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Communist China Overtakes USA in Life Expectancy with 79.2 Years
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banana69696969 lemmy.world banana69696969@lemmy.world
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balsoft lemmy.ml balsoft@lemmy.ml
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That's... Huge. Given they also are the world's factory, with all the health issues that come from that, it's an insane thing to pull off.

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HexadecimalSky lemmy.world HexadecimalSky@lemmy.world
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That's... Huge. Given they also are the world's factory, with all the health issues that come from that, it's an insane thing to pull off.

China has been strengthening thier health and worker protection laws (Albiet still far from ideal) while the U.S.A. has been stripping it like a fashonita wesring yesterday's style. We're gonna see this gap between us and china grow.

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zealouscurmedgeon lemmy.ml zealouscurmedgeon@lemmy.ml
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#4 · (edited) Quote Reply

That's... Huge. Given they also are the world's factory, with all the health issues that come from that, it's an insane thing to pull off.
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Arancello aussie.zone Arancello@aussie.zone
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#5 · Quote Reply

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I feel like a broken record (Thats an old vinyl platter that was used in analog audio systems a few decades ago).

30% of americans voted for this. Another 30% also voted for this by not bothering to vote. And they elected him twice. So the problem is an all-of-society problem. its not a leadership problem.

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davel lemmy.ml davel@lemmy.ml
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I feel like a broken record (Thats an old vinyl platter that was used in analog audio systems a few decades ago). 30% of americans voted for this. Another 30% also voted for this by not bothering to vote. And they elected him twice. So the problem is an all-of-society problem. its not a leadership problem.

It’s a red herring to blame the electorate because the US is and always has been a bourgeois democracy, otherwise known as an oligarchy. Our votes barely move the needle by design. Previously:

It’s not wrong to say regulatory capture is a problem, it just doesn’t go far enough. The US government was never not captured by the bourgeoisie, because the US was born of a bourgeois revolution[1]. The wealthy, white, male, land-owning, largely slave-owning Founding Fathers constructed a bourgeois state with “checks and balances” against the “tyranny of the majority”. It was never meant to represent the majority—the working class—and it never has, despite eventually allowing women and non-whites (at least those not disenfranchised by the carceral system) to vote. BBC: [Princeton & Northwestern] Study: US is an oligarchy, not a democracy

The game is rigged. The election cycle’s pomp and circumstance is to divert your energy and attention from the fact that it’s a big club, and you ain’t in it.

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Sims lemmy.ml Sims@lemmy.ml
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#7 · (edited) Quote Reply

I feel like a broken record (Thats an old vinyl platter that was used in analog audio systems a few decades ago). 30% of americans voted for this. Another 30% also voted for this by not bothering to vote. And they elected him twice. So the problem is an all-of-society problem. its not a leadership problem.

US doesn't have 'Democracy' and likely never did. What you have is a show where the Epstein class manipulates the population. A real Democracy requires enlightened citizens that know how the world looks like. All information in US are manipulated by power-people, so Mericans can only know about and vote for the two sides of the same circus that keeps having the same policies.

What we see now is the real face of those in power, not some 'maga' group that had little say in who wins or what opinions they (they are just fed the right information, and US democracy is proven to not work).

The whole idea of the 'superdumb maga fascist' are likely fabricated and exaggerated through a shitload of selective video clips in one of the many propaganda campaigns always running. However, a large part of the maga voters were all those ordinary rebellious people that saw the US corruption, don't want wars and all that, and had to believe in Trumps lies to change direction, or continue with the smiling war-psychos from the Dem puppet group. However, Trump was himself just manufactured consent and everything Trump does now where scripted years ago. The Elites need someone to crack the current system so they can fight China, save their power and Trump is a standard 'bad cop' and a standard fallguy that the elite can point to afterwards.

Mericans are always pushed around and manipulated, always.

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TrickDacy lemmy.world TrickDacy@lemmy.world
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#8 · (edited) Quote Reply

That's... Huge. Given they also are the world's factory, with all the health issues that come from that, it's an insane thing to pull off.

Is it them pulling something off, or the US fucking up by getting fatter and lazier and eating worse?

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TrickDacy lemmy.world TrickDacy@lemmy.world
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I feel like a broken record (Thats an old vinyl platter that was used in analog audio systems a few decades ago). 30% of americans voted for this. Another 30% also voted for this by not bothering to vote. And they elected him twice. So the problem is an all-of-society problem. its not a leadership problem.

Last I checked 70% is a majority and 30% is not "all of society".

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m532 lemmy.ml m532@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2021-06-05
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I feel like a broken record (Thats an old vinyl platter that was used in analog audio systems a few decades ago). 30% of americans voted for this. Another 30% also voted for this by not bothering to vote. And they elected him twice. So the problem is an all-of-society problem. its not a leadership problem.

But what did those other 40% do?

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Cowbee [he/they] lemmy.ml Cowbee@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-12-31
#11 · Quote Reply

This gap will likely widen with time. Turtle Island desperately needs socialism and decolonization.

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BygoneNeutrino lemmy.world BygoneNeutrino@lemmy.world
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#12 · (edited) Quote Reply

Is it them pulling something off, or the US fucking up by getting fatter and lazier and eating worse?

...it's only a 0.8 year difference. Obesity is pretty detrimental, so I assumed people in the United States would have a comparitively lower life expectancy. The fact that people in China only live this much longer indicates China has an unhealthier environment, poorer nutrition, or less effective healthcare.

It's a great trend, and I hope it gets better.

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Amnesigenic lemmy.ml Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2025-03-07
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I feel like a broken record (Thats an old vinyl platter that was used in analog audio systems a few decades ago). 30% of americans voted for this. Another 30% also voted for this by not bothering to vote. And they elected him twice. So the problem is an all-of-society problem. its not a leadership problem.

If by broken you mean dead wrong then sure

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anarchiddy lemmy.dbzer0.com anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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...it's only a 0.8 year difference. Obesity is pretty detrimental, so I assumed people in the United States would have a comparitively lower life expectancy. The fact that people in China only live this much longer indicates China has an unhealthier environment, poorer nutrition, or less effective healthcare. It's a great trend, and I hope it gets better.

I think it has more to do with their rapid urbanization

Prior to the 1950s, only 10% of China's population was considered urban. In the same period, the US's urbanized population was closer to 60%

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racoon lemmy.ml racoon@lemmy.ml
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tinfoilhat lemmy.ml tinfoilhat@lemmy.ml
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In America: ICE deports and kills civilians without a trial and your options for political leadership are both backed by corporate interests, Israel, and the Epstein class.

What freedom? What democracy?

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MrSulu lemmy.ml MrSulu@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2024-12-23
#17 · Quote Reply

US life expectancy has something to do with access to healthcare. But it's OK, the wealthy can try their best to increase the average life expectancy.......... /s

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RiverRock lemmy.ml RiverRock@lemmy.ml
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#18 · Quote Reply

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Lol i can't tell if this is a joke

"We may die sooner but at least we also live our lives saddled with debt"

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GiorgioPerlasca lemmy.ml GiorgioPerlasca@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2022-04-26
#19 · Quote Reply

China is solving most health issues in the country. Unfortunately, some issues were not solved yet.

Some examples:

To sum up, China is doing great, but still has issues related to rapid industrialization and food laws enforcement that I hope will be solved soon. No real country is safe from issues and contradictions.

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orc girly lemmy.ml orc_princess@lemmy.ml
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#20 · Quote Reply

Lol i can't tell if this is a joke "We may die sooner but at least we also live our lives saddled with debt"

The freedom to live with crippling debt baby 😎

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jj4211 lemmy.world jj4211@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-16
#21 · Quote Reply

In America: ICE deports and kills civilians without a trial and your options for political leadership are both backed by corporate interests, Israel, and the Epstein class. What freedom? What democracy?

He said right in the comment, the freedom to give all our earnings to private companies for services we need, and often still not receive them. Nothing says freedom like paying for years into health insurance and then the minute you actually get something serious the needed treatment is "not medically necessary".

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mrmisses lemmy.world mrmisses@lemmy.world
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In America, dying early is seen as a plus. This place is hell

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porous_grey_matter lemmy.ml porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml
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#23 · (edited) Quote Reply

Lol i can't tell if this is a joke "We may die sooner but at least we also live our lives saddled with debt"

Looking at their history I think it's a joke, pretty good troll tho, the detail in the grammar and punctuation is just right

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ErmahgherdDavid lemmy.dbzer0.com ErmahgherdDavid@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#24 · Quote Reply

China is solving most health issues in the country. Unfortunately, some issues were not solved yet. Some examples: Heavy metals are present in many Chinese rivers, especially in industrial regions. The issue is real but geographically uneven and improving in many areas. Long-term risk comes from accumulation inside your body, not just drinking water. Fish and crops (including rice) may be still...

Just to point out that 2008 was 18 years ago. A lot can change in that time. I don't think it's a fair criticism of today's problems. The first study was from 2023 so like... Fair enough.

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electric_nan lemmy.ml electric_nan@lemmy.ml
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#25 · Quote Reply

But at what cost?

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RiverRock lemmy.ml RiverRock@lemmy.ml
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#26 · (edited) Quote Reply

Looking at their history I think it's a joke, pretty good troll tho, the detail in the grammar and punctuation is just right

Ok sweet ill take my L with relief

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Dessalines lemmy.ml dessalines@lemmy.ml
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Please use the /s for sarcasm or joking, because many people couldn't tell this was a joke. It also helps people who aren't adept in english, or who have cognitive issues.

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HubertManne piefed.social HubertManne@piefed.social
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#28 · Quote Reply

Just to point out that 2008 was 18 years ago. A lot can change in that time. I don't think it's a fair criticism of today's problems. The first study was from 2023 so like... Fair enough.

I think trajectory is a big point. The us was cleaning up things and many things by the end of the 70's were much better than the start of the 60's. Unfortunately that activity slowed down at a national level as time went by after that. Most positives I have seen have been at local levels and recently the treasonous scotus we have now have dealt blows to public wealfare legislation.

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