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dbtng
eviltoast.org
dbtng@eviltoast.orgJoined: 2025-03-10 |
I just got two of these. Fully loaded. Disks, sleds, rails. Board Manufacturer: Supermicro I got them because they were at a remote colo, and they crashed a bunch of times. So now they are my problem. So far, I've hauled them across half the US, up my stairs, and admired them. I've configured them several times in the past. They always died after months of steady service. I'm interested in any practical feedback. |
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SlightlyNormal
lemmy.world
SlightlyNormal@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-06 |
That sounds like a fun experimentation platform. |
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dbtng
eviltoast.org
dbtng@eviltoast.orgJoined: 2025-03-10 |
That sounds like a fun experimentation platform. Power shouldn't be a problem except for the bill, the PSUs are meant to be redundant rather than for combined output. You probably won't draw more than 300 watts most of the time. The drive controller probably has staggered spin-up to prevent over current conditions. The bigger factor in my experience is the noise, expect a jet engine during boot...
Thanks! So you don't think I'm gonna blow my breakers? Alright, we will see. "TrueNAS or ProxMox ... triage the issues. ... set the drive controllers to HBA mode or flash an HBA firmware to them."
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fulg
lemmy.world
fulg@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-03 |
Thanks! So you don't think I'm gonna blow my breakers? Alright, we will see. "TrueNAS or ProxMox ... triage the issues. ... set the drive controllers to HBA mode or flash an HBA firmware to them." Right. I've installed TrueNAS on em a couple times previously. They were running ZFS software raid. So ... maybe just use the raid controller instead? Honestly, I've not tried that yet. I've installed...
It is generally a bad idea to do that nowadays, because it ties you forever to that controller. If it dies you will need to find an exact replacement or accept that the whole array is lost. With software raid you can run any hardware. Wendell from Level1Techs is a good reference: https://youtube.com/watch?v=l55GfAwa8RI https://youtube.com/watch?v=Q_JOtEBFHDs BTW: good score, you will have fun with those for sure. |
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Onomatopoeia
lemmy.cafe
Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe Joined: 2025-01-02 |
1000 watts is ~10amp at 120v (I know what it actually is, I'm using round figures to make it easy to grok). Plus isn't this a 220V device? If it's 120V, it's likelyntonhave a different plug design, I forget the number. That said, it's gonna pull hundreds of watts at idle. I'd sell much of it and use that to buy what I really want. I'd consider keeping drives if they're a useful size for you. |
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piefed.blahaj.zone
CorrectAlias@piefed.blahaj.zoneJoined: 2025-07-22 |
1000 watts is ~10amp at 120v (I know what it actually is, I'm using round figures to make it easy to grok). Plus isn't this a 220V device? If it's 120V, it's likelyntonhave a different plug design, I forget the number. That said, it's gonna pull hundreds of watts at idle. I'd sell much of it and use that to buy what I really want. I'd consider keeping drives if they're a useful size for you.
It'll probably only draw a couple hundred watts, even if substantially full. The real thing to tackle here is heat. It will definitely warm up your room. Source: I have a 26 drive array and it only draws around 350 W with all drives spinning during parity check. Usually they aren't all spinning though, and it goes down to around 220 W idle. That's with an Epyc 7702 and a 25GB nic as well. |
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dbtng
eviltoast.org
dbtng@eviltoast.orgJoined: 2025-03-10 |
1000 watts is ~10amp at 120v (I know what it actually is, I'm using round figures to make it easy to grok). Plus isn't this a 220V device? If it's 120V, it's likelyntonhave a different plug design, I forget the number. That said, it's gonna pull hundreds of watts at idle. I'd sell much of it and use that to buy what I really want. I'd consider keeping drives if they're a useful size for you.
We run 120v in our colos. Standard plugs. I haven't plugged it in yet, but I don't think the cable or voltage will be an issue. The drives ... well I've got at least 50 drives here. (There were a few spares too.) I do anticipate selling the two devices with the drives as a complete kit. |
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dbtng
eviltoast.org
dbtng@eviltoast.orgJoined: 2025-03-10 |
It'll probably only draw a couple hundred watts, even if substantially full. The real thing to tackle here is heat. It will definitely warm up your room. Source: I have a 26 drive array and it only draws around 350 W with all drives spinning during parity check. Usually they aren't all spinning though, and it goes down to around 220 W idle. That's with an Epyc 7702 and a 25GB nic as well.
Ok cool. Ya we closed our office, and I work from home now, so my only bench is my livingroom table. It's gonna be an interesting moment when I power the first one up, but I'm glad to hear they will probably run. |
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piefed.blahaj.zone
CorrectAlias@piefed.blahaj.zoneJoined: 2025-07-22 |
Ok cool. Ya we closed our office, and I work from home now, so my only bench is my livingroom table. It's gonna be an interesting moment when I power the first one up, but I'm glad to hear they will probably run.
Yeah, unless you have really jacked-up wiring (like, really bad), then the worst that would happen is tripping the breaker. But I don't think you'll pull enough amps to do that with this setup alone. Is there anything else using a lot of power on this breaker? |
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dbtng
eviltoast.org
dbtng@eviltoast.orgJoined: 2025-03-10 |
Yeah, unless you have really jacked-up wiring (like, really bad), then the worst that would happen is tripping the breaker. But I don't think you'll pull enough amps to do that with this setup alone. Is there anything else using a lot of power on this breaker?
Nah, I live alone. Just me, two cats, and my robots. I can turn everything off if I want. |
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dbtng
eviltoast.org
dbtng@eviltoast.orgJoined: 2025-03-10 |
They were running ZFS software raid. So ... maybe just use the raid controller instead? It is generally a bad idea to do that nowadays, because it ties you forever to that controller. If it dies you will need to find an exact replacement or accept that the whole array is lost. With software raid you can run any hardware. Wendell from Level1Techs is a good reference: https://youtube.com/watch?v=...
Those were a couple really good vids. I've never been a storage specialist, but I do manage all the storage for a small MSP, so I'm not ignorant. Like, I know ZFS pretty darn well, and I apparently collect storage servers for fun. Honestly, a good chunk of what he had to say had me questioning my build with my Highpoint SSD7540 PCIe 4.0 x16 / 8x M.2 Ports NVMe card ... on a completely different machine, a build I was quite satisfied with until now. (It's on my gamer/server, my main box.) I put a lot of research and performance testing into the Highpoint build. It's an 8x card supporting Gen 4 NVMe in an (actually) 16 lane slot. I populated 4 bays. Each stick gets 4 lanes, which is great for Gen 4. (I figured some day in the future when NVMe gen4 is dirt cheap, I'll fill the rest, and each stick will just get 2 lanes.) All very interesting stuff. Thanks. |
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