Maybe lazy parents should stop expecting the iPad/internet to do the parenting?

Clearly you're not a parent. Which of fine, but don't criticize.

And if they want "infrastructural help" perhaps be the change you want to see.

I have nieces and nephews that were part of the first wave of kids growing up with internet. Had many discussions with siblings and friends about how to handle it.

As an IT person I, of course, brought technological solutions to them, which pretty much all of them rejected.

Turned out it was just a modification of anything else requiring adult supervision - just like cooking, mowing the lawn, or even just handling a sharp knife. They taught their kids by supervising until they were competent.

And I was humbled.

I do criticize. If you can't do your job as a parent, use condoms. Don't fuck with society and privacy at a whole because you failed at the one and only job you had to do. Parenting.

That caught me off guard a bit too, but I'm glad Lemmy isn't so much of an echo chamber that this sort of stuff doesn't ever make it through. Nevertheless, I disagree with identity verification and any of it's other names.

Maybe some good conversations will come as a result.

Parent here, its the easiest shit in the world. Takes maybe five minutes to setup parental controls on any service. Its also very easy to login to your router and block URLs. If you can't keep up with 1 machine by just typing website into it you are part of the problem. The other part is massive corporations wanting to avoid responsibility for their products and platforms.

I’m a parent telling you to parent your kids instead of making laws against grown ups.

It's a "stop just blaming the parents meme". That's lazy.

It's a not an echo chamber entirely, if you look at my votes on the meme, it's a fair split for something that is generally against the popular opinion (the popular opinion being "just blame the parents").

But the "pile on" nature of Lemmy is very real.

Sure, if we are going to make sacrifices for parents then they can make sacrifices for us. How about no kids at bars or breweries, and I am allowed to hit your kids if they get within arms reach of me?

Nah, it's a shitty troll.

Tax money

We literally have the infrastructure to do so. Have you heard of internet filters on home routers? Parental controls? On some, it's literally a checkbox, and is advertised on the box as an option.

Eroding personal privacy to "save the kids" instead of just enabling a network filter. Better yet, we could require internet filter options on all routers sold in the US. But this parent would rather have everyone lose their rights to internet privacy so that they don't have to do the hard work of enabling parental controls themselves.

Have you tried talking to your kids and enabling parental controls?

I will 100% blame parents who would decide to erode personal privacy rather than be bothered to talk to their children and enable parental controls.

Have you considered not blaming the victims for crimes against them?

I'm ok with no kids at bars and breweries. And no you can't abuse children just to make a political point.

Ok then we are back at me not giving a fuck what your kids do on the Internet.

Can you describe these "crimes"? Have you considered not eroding personal privacy rights for everyone just because you don't know how to enable parental controls?

Yep. Lemmy is 4chan for leftist assholes.

I actually semi agree with this post.

But parents also need to make an effort.

I got all 3 of my nieces a tablet over the years for bdays. I set them up. Turned on parental controls before I gave it to them. It was pretty easy.

People talking about parental controls as if that magically stops the new ways kids get bullied

Select all correct statements:

A) Parents have a responsibility to teach and protect their kids

B) Governments have a responsibility to protect kids

C) The owners of websites and platforms have a responsibility to protect kids

D) Everyone is a goddamn functioning society has a responsibility to protect kids.

D

no movement for anybody until they show ID
you could trip and fall
also your id is a business asset we will sell

There are so goddamn many ways to do this without infringing on people's privacy, but, you know, that's not what they want.

Requiring an ID to go to a private company that WILL get a databreach is the laziest, most reckless form of this.

If you cannot administrate your Network to be Kid friendly, your Kids shouldnt have a device capable of browsing the Internet.

If you cant manage it, deny access all together.

Just because you are too lazy to play with your children and Just park them in Front of a Screen, society shouldnt suffer.

A and B

Parents have a responsibility to teach and protect their kids

Governments have a responsibility to protect all citizens (including children)

Owners of websites have no responsibility to protect anyone beyond what is legally required

I have no responsibility for your kids beyond not directly harming them.

If you don't want to take responsibility for your kids, surrender them to Child Protective Services.