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Tokenmaxxing: “How much did you spend in tokens?” — CEO of tokens
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David Gerard awful.systems dgerard@awful.systems
Joined: 2023-06-27
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if you don’t know what you’re doing, do it harder

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ny6HnGZInBg&list=UU9rJrMVgcXTfa8xuMnbhAEA - video
https://pivottoai.libsyn.com/20260428-tokenmaxxing-how-much-did-you-spend-in-tokens - podcast

time: 6 min 31 sec

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Ambivalent Dictator For Life mastodon.me.uk pikesley@mastodon.me.uk
Joined: 2017-04-05
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@dgerard Tokenmaxxing is like violence: if it's not working, you're not using enough of it

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gerikson awful.systems gerikson@awful.systems
Joined: 2023-07-01
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“the thing that matters for your company is: is my employee becoming insanely AI-pilled? And that requires getting them on this tokenmaxxing mindset.”

This is gonna be the epitaph of this current bubble.

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BlueMonday1984 awful.systems BlueMonday1984@awful.systems
Joined: 2024-02-02
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At some point, Anthropic puts up its prices so much the companies try to go back to brain coders. They hand these actual human coders a toxic waste dump of AI slop code that is literally incomprehensible to humans and can’t be fixed in less time than it would take to start over. This does not end well.

Given the slop bots have been actively destroying their users' coding abilities for the past 2-3 years, finding someone capable of unfucking their codebases will be a bit of a challenge.

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blakestacey awful.systems blakestacey@awful.systems
Joined: 2023-06-27
#5 · Quote Reply

The singularity of manosphere chud lingo and CEO babble... angels and ministers of grace defend us.

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mr_account lemmy.world mr_account@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-24
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I'm 109% certain this is just a marketing blitz/astroturfing campaign by LLM companies to show investors that "people are actually using our AI, honestly!"

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YourNetworkIsHaunted awful.systems YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems
Joined: 2024-03-22
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@dgerard Tokenmaxxing is like violence: if it's not working, you're not using enough of it

Not quite the intersection between tokenmaxxing and violence that I had in mind, but I feel like I'm going to probably toe the line of fedposting a little too closely already on this topic, so I'll allow it.

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gerikson awful.systems gerikson@awful.systems
Joined: 2023-07-01
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@dgerard Tokenmaxxing is like violence: if it's not working, you're not using enough of it

Tokens can never fail, they can only be failed - by not tokenmaxxing

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48954246 lemmy.world 48954246@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-18
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Awful for the environment but this is a great way to not have to use Claude anymore

https://jola.dev/posts/how-to-run-out-of-usage

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otter lemmy.dbzer0.com otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2023-11-18
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At some point, Anthropic puts up its prices so much the companies try to go back to brain coders. They hand these actual human coders a toxic waste dump of AI slop code that is literally incomprehensible to humans and can’t be fixed in less time than it would take to start over. This does not end well. Given the slop bots have been actively destroying their users' coding abilities for the past ...

More than one, or even a couple bits, by orders of magnitude. 🫪

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Soyweiser awful.systems Soyweiser@awful.systems
Joined: 2023-09-07
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The singularity of manosphere chud lingo and CEO babble... angels and ministers of grace defend us.

The manosphere lingo, the header image with the leather jacket and the fake signing of a boob, the self dealing, the pretending they pay all their devs/researchers a lot of money, the who uses the much tokens leaderboard. There is such a high amount of sick desperation in all this.

We were to hard on the previous wave, who like Balmer were just cringe capitalist overlords.

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JakenVeina midwest.social JakenVeina@midwest.social
Joined: 2025-06-12
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this is no different than one of our chip designers who says, guess what, I’m just going to use paper and pencil, I don’t think I’m going to need any CAD tools.

Lol, dude thinks chip designers don't use pen and paper, whenever possible?

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rook awful.systems rook@awful.systems
Joined: 2023-07-29
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At some point, Anthropic puts up its prices so much the companies try to go back to brain coders. They hand these actual human coders a toxic waste dump of AI slop code that is literally incomprehensible to humans and can’t be fixed in less time than it would take to start over. This does not end well. Given the slop bots have been actively destroying their users' coding abilities for the past ...

The big tech firms have fired tens of thousands of people, and we’re all heading into an economic catastrophe that will only make more people impoverished or jobless. Finding folk who are so desperate for work that they’ll decontaminate your codebase for minimum wage will be straightforward.

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diz awful.systems diz@awful.systems
Joined: 2023-07-13
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this is no different than one of our chip designers who says, guess what, I’m just going to use paper and pencil, I don’t think I’m going to need any CAD tools. Lol, dude thinks chip designers don't use pen and paper, whenever possible?

How much does he think an engineer spends on CAD tools, anyway? Altium is like, what, $2500 / year? Very "how much can a banana cost".

It's all capital costs for tools, pretty much, anyway, maybe CAD should start charging per net lmao.

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