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FlashMobOfOne lemmy.world FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world
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Japan’s Minister of Defense Shinjirō Koizumi posed with a cardboard drone on Monday during a meeting with drone manufacturer AirKamuy. The AirKamuy 150 is a cheap pre-fab cardboard drone meant to die on the battlefield and it comes shipped in a flatpack like an IKEA shelf.

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Brave Little Hitachi Wand feddit.uk yakko@feddit.uk
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Whoever passed over the name Origami-Kaze should be fired

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itsathursday lemmy.world itsathursday@lemmy.world
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flatpack like an IKEA shelf

And at a size of 0.5% of an Olympic swimming pool

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MrSelfDestruct lemmy.dbzer0.com RaoulDuke25@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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flatpack like an IKEA shelf And at a size of 0.5% of an Olympic swimming pool

How many is that in football fields?

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teft piefed.social teft@piefed.social
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Whoever passed over the name Origami-Kaze should be fired

Often non-native speakers don’t see puns the same way as native speakers. It might be a case of the kanji for origami and the kanji for kamikaze are unrelated and therefore may not rhyme in japanese. I don’t know enough about japanese to be sure though.

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JoShmoe ani.social JoShmoe@ani.social
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I cant wait til we’re all firing at each other with condensed fecal matter at mach 7.

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AeronMelon lemmy.world aeronmelon@lemmy.world
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Often non-native speakers don’t see puns the same way as native speakers. It might be a case of the kanji for origami and the kanji for kamikaze are unrelated and therefore may not rhyme in japanese. I don’t know enough about japanese to be sure though.

The Japanese absolutely love word puns.

And they can take it a step further with kanji similarities.

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AeronMelon lemmy.world aeronmelon@lemmy.world
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flatpack like an IKEA shelf And at a size of 0.5% of an Olympic swimming pool

Ukrainian soldiers now unsure what to do with the mountain of excess allen keys that was quickly generated.

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Diplomjodler lemmy.world Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world
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Ukrainian soldiers now unsure what to do with the mountain of excess allen keys that was quickly generated.

They were able to build 50 new tanks from the metal they obtained after melting them down.

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Diplomjodler lemmy.world Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world
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Building something like that is fairly trivial. What the article doesn't talk about is the sensor or communications package these things will carry. I suspect the $2000 price tag doesn't include any of that.

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Brave Little Hitachi Wand feddit.uk yakko@feddit.uk
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The Japanese absolutely love word puns. And they can take it a step further with kanji similarities.

This is the only real reason I'll accept, that they saw the pun as low hanging fruit and left it

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Brave Little Hitachi Wand feddit.uk yakko@feddit.uk
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I cant wait til we’re all firing at each other with condensed fecal matter at mach 7.

We really are apes.

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N0t_5ure lemmy.world N0t_5ure@lemmy.world
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It was only a matter of time, and I'm surprised that it's taken this long for a cardboard drone to come to market. Dirt cheap, but strong enough to hold together to deliver the payload.

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SpruceBringsteen lemmy.world SpruceBringsteen@lemmy.world
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Australia sent something similar to Ukraine a few years ago, but I haven't heard too much about them since.

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lurch (he/him) sh.itjust.works lurch@sh.itjust.works
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flatpack like an IKEA shelf And at a size of 0.5% of an Olympic swimming pool

That refers to the form, not the size. Like it's not a cube or cylindrical box, but a flat cuboid.

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einkorn feddit.org einkorn@feddit.org
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We really are apes.

🌍👨‍🦱🔫🐵 Always have been.

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FlashMobOfOne lemmy.world FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world
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I cant wait til we’re all firing at each other with condensed fecal matter at mach 7.

Our species is really good at getting creative with low-budget weapons, whether it's diseased blankets or catapulting our own plagued corpses at each other.

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JoShmoe ani.social JoShmoe@ani.social
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Our species is really good at getting creative with low-budget weapons, whether it's diseased blankets or catapulting our own plagued corpses at each other.

That’s right, the medieval era. Ridiculous shit man.

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grue lemmy.world grue@lemmy.world
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Building something like that is fairly trivial. What the article doesn't talk about is the sensor or communications package these things will carry. I suspect the $2000 price tag doesn't include any of that.

I suspect it does include that, because otherwise I'd expect it to cost more like $200, if not even less.

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bluGill fedia.io bluGill@fedia.io
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Building something like that is fairly trivial. What the article doesn't talk about is the sensor or communications package these things will carry. I suspect the $2000 price tag doesn't include any of that.

For $2000 it better have something. The real question is how good though - $2000 greatly limits what you can do, but a pi,, 5 mile radio, and a camera well fit into that budget, while a full AI system that can navigate without GPS someplace and then decide on a target cannot.

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Triumph fedia.io Triumph@fedia.io
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That’s right, the medieval era. Ridiculous shit man.

The blankets were given to Native Americans by colonists. I forget whether they knew or not, but the American genocide is 100% real.

The lobbing corpses thing is attributed to Genghis Khan, and it may be apocryphal.

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NaoPb eviltoast.org NaoPb@eviltoast.org
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That refers to the form, not the size. Like it's not a cube or cylindrical box, but a flat cuboid.

No, you're a flat cuboid.

/s

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5ibelius9insterberg feddit.org 5ibelius9insterberg@feddit.org
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It was only a matter of time, and I'm surprised that it's taken this long for a cardboard drone to come to market. Dirt cheap, but strong enough to hold together to deliver the payload.

Until someone rolls out the firetrucks.

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Zugyuk lemmy.world Zugyuk@lemmy.world
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flatpack like an IKEA shelf And at a size of 0.5% of an Olympic swimming pool

Hope you got a multitool

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zout fedia.io zout@fedia.io
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Australia sent something similar to Ukraine a few years ago, but I haven't heard too much about them since.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sypaq_Corvo_Precision_Payload_Delivery_System

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NoSpotOfGround lemmy.world NoSpotOfGround@lemmy.world
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flatpack like an IKEA shelf And at a size of 0.5% of an Olympic swimming pool

I'm gonna need that expressed in eighteenths of football fields, pardner. 🇱🇷🦅

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lurch (he/him) sh.itjust.works lurch@sh.itjust.works
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No, you're a flat cuboid. /s

* Minecraft noises *

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ToiletFlushShowerScream piefed.world ToiletFlushShowerScream@piefed.world
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But I assumed the airframe was probably the cheapest component after electronics guidance and munitions were added?

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yermaw sh.itjust.works yermaw@sh.itjust.works
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But I assumed the airframe was probably the cheapest component after electronics guidance and munitions were added?

Probably right, but can it get even cheaper?

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isyasad lemmy.world isyasad@lemmy.world
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Often non-native speakers don’t see puns the same way as native speakers. It might be a case of the kanji for origami and the kanji for kamikaze are unrelated and therefore may not rhyme in japanese. I don’t know enough about japanese to be sure though.

You're basically right. The kami in origami means paper 紙 while the kami in kamikaze means god 神. That doesn't mean you couldn't make a pun about it, but the more fundamental problem is that kamikaze does not mean "suicide attack" in Japanese. The actual word for it is tokkou 特攻, a euphemism that means "special attack".
Kamikaze originally refers to this historical event where a "divine wind" protected Japan from invasion. The term was later used in relation to suicide attacks, but I think tokkou is the word that's more commonly associated with the WW2 suicide attacks in Japanese and kamikaze has kept its original definition.

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Hetare King piefed.social HetareKing@piefed.social
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Often non-native speakers don’t see puns the same way as native speakers. It might be a case of the kanji for origami and the kanji for kamikaze are unrelated and therefore may not rhyme in japanese. I don’t know enough about japanese to be sure though.

Kami meaning god and kami* meaning paper do have different pitch accent patterns, but that's never kept Japanese speakers from doing wordplay. In fact, the pun works even better in Japanese than it does in English. However, I think they would be confused why someone would want to name it that for a couple of reasons:

  1. The suicide bombers from WW2 would probably not be the first thing on their mind when hearing the word "kamikaze". In the first place, the reason they were called kamikaze was because they were likened to the "divine wind" that prevented the Mongols from invading Japan twice. And the few times I've actually heard "kamikaze" being used in Japanese, it's always used figuratively.
  2. It's not actually made of folded paper. This is danbooru kurafuto (cardboard crafts), not origami.

*) It becomes "gami" in "origami" because it's the second part of a compound word, but the word on its own is "kami".

EDIT: I just realised something: the company making these is called AirKamuy. "Kamuy" is the Ainu word for god. So if you squint real hard, it does kind of invoke kamikaze. Probably not intentional, though.

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SmoothLiquidation lemmy.world SmoothLiquidation@lemmy.world
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What is the difference between a “suicide drone” and a missile? Both are just guided to run into their target. It’s not like an ICBM wants to return home after dropping the payload.

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Atomic sh.itjust.works Atomic@sh.itjust.works
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Not much substance in the article unless you pay.

Difficult to assess anything from it, one would hope they've calculated everything correctly. I know cardboard can be strong. But I have doubts about it's rigidity and longevity. These things have to handle being stored in an improvised bunker that's probably damp.

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wieson feddit.org wieson@feddit.org
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What is the difference between a “suicide drone” and a missile? Both are just guided to run into their target. It’s not like an ICBM wants to return home after dropping the payload.

I guess the method of propellment (not a word).

On other news, I hate how officials always try to avoid the word "drone". Loitering munitions, unmanned aerial vehicle. Like just say drone, there's no confusion.

It feels very zombie movie.

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socsa piefed.social socsa@piefed.social
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What is the difference between a “suicide drone” and a missile? Both are just guided to run into their target. It’s not like an ICBM wants to return home after dropping the payload.

So with the missile, it knows where it is because it knows where it isn't.

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D06M4 lemmy.zip D06M4@lemmy.zip
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Nintendo Labo 2.

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altphoto lemmy.today altphoto@lemmy.today
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Very traditional.

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altphoto lemmy.today altphoto@lemmy.today
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You're basically right. The kami in origami means paper 紙 while the kami in kamikaze means god 神. That doesn't mean you couldn't make a pun about it, but the more fundamental problem is that kamikaze does not mean "suicide attack" in Japanese. The actual word for it is tokkou 特攻, a euphemism that means "special attack". Kamikaze originally refers to this historical event where a "divine wind" p...

How about TicTokkou!? Orikamitictokou!

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k0e3 lemmy.ca k0e3@lemmy.ca
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Whoever passed over the name Origami-Kaze should be fired

It doesn't sound clever at all in Japanese though.

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Brave Little Hitachi Wand feddit.uk yakko@feddit.uk
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It doesn't sound clever at all in Japanese though.

Good to have that independently confirmed

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captainlezbian lemmy.world captainlezbian@lemmy.world
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It doesn't sound clever at all in Japanese though.

Yeah go with Kami Origami

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itsathursday lemmy.world itsathursday@lemmy.world
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That refers to the form, not the size. Like it's not a cube or cylindrical box, but a flat cuboid.

That’s not something specific to IKEA though

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finallymadeanaccount lemmy.world finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world
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An environmentally friendly drone!

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Appoxo lemmy.dbzer0.com Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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The blankets were given to Native Americans by colonists. I forget whether they knew or not, but the American genocide is 100% real. The lobbing corpses thing is attributed to Genghis Khan, and it may be apocryphal.

Consider the Nazi atrocities and how everyone (rightfully) marks it as the worst event (at least in my environment) in history.

I wonder, if all historic events that belong to that category of severe events (whole timeline of events. From end to finish), were to be put into a closer vicinity in the timeline so that everything is viewed less historically and more emotionally equal as to what happened.

Who would be the worst offenders?
The Spanish
The Portuguese
The Chinese
The Germans
The Japanese
The Britains
The Americans
(Did the koreans do anything in regards to a genocide/ethnic cleansing?)
Some other (historic) state?

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Triumph fedia.io Triumph@fedia.io
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Consider the Nazi atrocities and how everyone (rightfully) marks it as the worst event (at least in my environment) in history. I wonder, if all historic events that belong to that category of severe events (whole timeline of events. From end to finish), were to be put into a closer vicinity in the timeline so that everything is viewed less historically and more emotionally equal as to what hap...

The Nazis are a bit of a special case. Exterminating the Jews was because they believed the Jews were evil. Yes, there have been arguably "worse" genocides, and the American one may well be - but those were more in order to further another goal, namely occupying land.

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The Nazis are a bit of a special case. Exterminating the Jews was because they believed the Jews were evil. Yes, there have been arguably "worse" genocides, and the American one may well be - but those were more in order to further another goal, namely occupying land.

I asked this more in the direction of a death-counter.
The reason wasnt my main concern.

Essentially it's always that:

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k0e3 lemmy.ca k0e3@lemmy.ca
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Good to have that independently confirmed

yeah sorry, I sounded like a dick there.

It's just that because Japanese has so many homonyms, the number of characters used (therefore number of syllables) plays an important role when you make a clever pun. Also, kamikaze is just the devine wind, and we associate the suicide attacks with the word tokkoutai, especially in WWII Pacific Theatre, or kesshitai in general. So while origami-kaze sounds awesome in English, it doesn't work that well in English. Hope that makes sense!

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Brave Little Hitachi Wand feddit.uk yakko@feddit.uk
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yeah sorry, I sounded like a dick there. It's just that because Japanese has so many homonyms, the number of characters used (therefore number of syllables) plays an important role when you make a clever pun. Also, kamikaze is just the devine wind, and we associate the suicide attacks with the word tokkoutai, especially in WWII Pacific Theatre, or kesshitai in general. So while origami-kaze sou...

You're good lol, I just never learned enough Japanese - about a year in high school, two decades ago - to have a good response other than "you're probably right!"

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k0e3 lemmy.ca k0e3@lemmy.ca
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Weren't our kamikaze planes made of paper too?

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HubertManne piefed.social HubertManne@piefed.social
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I'm gonna need that expressed in eighteenths of football fields, pardner. 🇱🇷🦅

is that measered from the front of the goal or the back of the net?

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