We were close to being defederated from LW due to their flippant administration regarding one of our users criticising their host organisation. It is for this reason that I think it is important we band together with the rest of the FAF and other sites who are joining this defensive alliance.

This is not a call to defederate from Lemmy.world, rather stating that if anyone of us is targeted that we will respond together.

Please comment below with your thoughts on the matter.

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/67858553

Join the Pledge to boycott lemmy.world! [GenAI]

Note: Judging by the comments, a lot of people are obviously not reading the post and are instead assuming we are calling for defederation of lemmy.world. That is not the case, and in fact the opposite is true. LW already temporarily defederated anarchist.nexus once, and the evidence suggests Mr Kaplan is now pushing for full defederation of all the FAF instances. We are trying to build a coalition of instances that will agree to defederate from lemmy.world IF Kaplan goes ahead with the defederation. Apologies if you weren't aware of the context.

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🏴‍☠️ Hoist the Black Flag: Pledge to Boycott Lemmy World!

... if Lemmy World dares to defederate from any ship in the Fediverse Anarchist Flotilla - https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/, https://anarchist.nexus/, and https://quokk.au/.

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Mateys, we can’t let a mega‑instance captain bully the rest of the fleet just because their ship’s bigger. If Lemmy World tries to throw the FAF overboard, we’re calling for a show of solidarity: a fediverse blockade of Lemmy World in response, until the landlubbers see reason (i.e., there is an acceptable change in their leadership and/or this policy).

This is about mutual aid, not mutiny - standing together so no single admin gets to rule the seas unchallenged. A united armada of smaller instances can absolutely blunt Lemmy World’s outsized influence (and, let’s be honest, their ego).

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☠️ A word to the captains: before hoisting colours or locking in a course, we ask ye to let your crew have their say. Run a poll, open the deck for discussion, and listen to the voices aboard your vessel. These seas belong to all of us, and decisions that shape our fediverse should be made together, not from the captain’s quarters alone.

If other captains be keen to chart this course with us, drop anchor and make the pledge public in the comments. The more hands on deck, the harder it is to sink any one of us. Let us know if you are holding a vote!

dbzer0 and AN members can vote on this pledge in !div0_governance@lemmy.dbzer0.com, and quokk.au will be holding their own vote.

🏴‍☠️ Solidarity forever, and fair winds to the Flotilla!

For obvious reasons I fully support this and am glad A.N and dbzer0 had my back.

We stand together or we hang together 🏴‍☠️🏳️‍⚧️

I have a number of thoughts, and I acknowledge that im probably in the minority.

Firstly, I agree that LW admins behaviour is unacceptable and would very likely support any motion to defederate if things deteriorate.

That said, I dont really see the point in forming a bloq. We can express our misgivings without making a pact.

The dbzer0 admin seems to have a hard on for alliances and pacts and other secret squirrel arrangements.

Being realistic, I think defederation from LW would very likely kill an instance. Things are pretty bleak with 20k MAUs. If that were suddenly reduced by 2 thirds, most people would switch to another instance which is still federated. I don't think that means we should avoid defederation at all costs, I just wanted to acknowledge that reality.

The point in forming a bloc is that we are ~90 MAUs, together we are ~2,000 MAUs - and dbzer0 hosts some very active communities. That makes the threat of defederation against us less appealing to flaunt around.

I agree it would not be a great move, but considering they have already wanted to defederate us (Quokk.au), we need all the support we can get.

Respectfully, I disagree.

LW knows that the content available if we were defederated would be so paltry that the vast majority of the users would join another server - in many cases LW itself. Honestly I expect a majority of dbzero users already have LW accounts from when they initially joined lemmy not knowing about dbzer0.

The blog creates a dynamic where LW can defederate us, with 90 MAUs, and dbzer0 falls on its own sword leaving half their users to move back to LW.

As someone who voted against joining the flotilla, I firmly and whole-heartedly stand by the flotilla on this. This is free association and mutual aid in practice. An injury to one is an injury to all.

Remember folks, this strategy also works in the workplace ;)