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Ulrich
feddit.org
Ulrich@feddit.orgJoined: 2024-12-22 |
Let me introduce you to my friend LFP. 5k-10k cycles, easily.
That's nothing to do with chemistry. Typical NMC batteries can charge way faster than that.
Also not a problem with LFP. |
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Photonic
lemmy.world
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SaveTheTuaHawk
lemmy.ca
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It's a motorcycle |
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Photonic
lemmy.world
Photonic@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-08-12 |
It's a motorcycle
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kahjtheundedicated
lemmy.world
kahjtheundedicated@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-29 |
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That’s what “moped” used to mean. Also that “e-bike” does 750 watts. A good cyclist can do that for a couple seconds. And that’s about twice what a pro cyclist can do for sustained efforts. The thing is a motorcycle pretending to be a bicycle.
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ergonomic_importer
piefed.ca
ergonomic_importer@piefed.ca Joined: 2026-01-13 |
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Nobody is pedaling this thing. Manufacturers want to make a motorcycle with broad appeal that doesn't require a license to operate and current e bike laws let them get away with it by slapping a crankset on it. |
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Photonic
lemmy.world
Photonic@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-08-12 |
That’s what “moped” used to mean. Also that “e-bike” does 750 watts. A good cyclist can do that for a couple seconds. And that’s about twice what a pro cyclist can do for sustained efforts. The thing is a motorcycle pretending to be a bicycle.
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Photonic
lemmy.world
Photonic@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-08-12 |
Nobody is pedaling this thing. Manufacturers want to make a motorcycle with broad appeal that doesn't require a license to operate and current e bike laws let them get away with it by slapping a crankset on it.
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Victor Villas
lemmy.ca
villasv@lemmy.ca Joined: 2023-07-09 |
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Yes. This one, for example |
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Photonic
lemmy.world
Photonic@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-08-12 |
Yes. This one, for example
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Victor Villas
lemmy.ca
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Yes, there are quite a few other brands and models of these things that are marketed as bikes but are really motorcycles with cycling pedals |
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Photonic
lemmy.world
Photonic@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-08-12 |
Yes, there are quite a few other brands and models of these things that are marketed as bikes but are really motorcycles with cycling pedals
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Victor Villas
lemmy.ca
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Yes, there are quite a few other brands and models of these things that are marketed as bikes but are actual real motorcycles with cycling pedals; I guess I saw the first one of these about 3 years ago but I'm sure they have existed for longer |
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SaveTheTuaHawk
lemmy.ca
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca Joined: 2025-03-07 |
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Ever seen someone actually pedaling these stupid things? |
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SaveTheTuaHawk
lemmy.ca
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca Joined: 2025-03-07 |
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but then you.... |
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zaphod
sopuli.xyz
zaphod@sopuli.xyz Joined: 2023-12-04 |
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You called it a fatbike and an e-scooter. An e-scooter is an electric kick scooter and a fatbike is a bicycle with fat tyres which can be ridden on soft ground such as sand. In some countries the term fatbike is used to mean electric motorcycle with pedals and fat tyres, and a scooter can also be a kind of motorcycle/moped. Words are confusing. |
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czardestructo
lemmy.world
czardestructo@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-10 |
For starters, lifespan is dramatically improved. The Revv1 EVO’s battery is rated for over 1,200 charge cycles before dropping to 80% capacity. That’s more than double what you’d expect from a typical e-bike battery, which often lasts around 500 cycles Let me introduce you to my friend LFP. 5k-10k cycles, easily. The battery can fully recharge in around two hours, thanks to its chemistry AND Ri...
You are correct but the energy density is half. For this huge bike in the article you probably could get away with it but for a proper small/light ebike LFP doesnt make much sense because they're so heavy. |
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czardestructo
lemmy.world
czardestructo@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-10 |
As someone who works in the battery industry I want to applaud them for calling the battery for what it is; semi-solid state. So many dirt bag companies keep throwing the term "solid-state" batteries around for prototypes they're working on but they dont exist yet, they're an aspiration. No company has figured this out yep so right now best you get is a semi-solid state that has improvements over existing chemistry but a whole bunch of additional caveats and negatives. |
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Photonic
lemmy.world
Photonic@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-08-12 |
You called it a fatbike and an e-scooter. An e-scooter is an electric kick scooter and a fatbike is a bicycle with fat tyres which can be ridden on soft ground such as sand. In some countries the term fatbike is used to mean electric motorcycle with pedals and fat tyres, and a scooter can also be a kind of motorcycle/moped. Words are confusing.
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hallettj
leminal.space
hallettj@leminal.spaceJoined: 2024-02-23 |
You are correct but the energy density is half. For this huge bike in the article you probably could get away with it but for a proper small/light ebike LFP doesnt make much sense because they're so heavy.
How is the energy density of the semi-solid? |
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zaphod
sopuli.xyz
zaphod@sopuli.xyz Joined: 2023-12-04 |
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As I said there are two things people call fatbike and they have very little in common apart from fat tyres. |
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czardestructo
lemmy.world
czardestructo@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-10 |
How is the energy density of the semi-solid?
The semi-solid is about 2x of LFP but vanilla lithium cells are about 1.5x of LFP. Its hard to nail down specifics because there are so many flavor of chemistries and designs (high current vs high capacity vs extreme temperatures). |
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farmgineer
nord.pub
farmgineer@nord.pub Joined: 2026-04-25 |
Mushy state? Gloopy state? |
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