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Arthur Besse lemmy.ml cypherpunks@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2022-01-17
#152 · Quote Reply

butterymales VS lack of trump disclosures.

is there any evidence whatsoever, or is this belief that they simply must have received and suppressed some trump-related smoking gun just blueanon dogma?

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Photonic lemmy.world Photonic@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-08-12
#153 · Quote Reply

I miss when fascists stayed on stormfront and left everyone else the fuck alone; and if they ventured outside, everyone hated them until they left.
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Skullgrid lemmy.world Skullgrid@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-29
#154 · Quote Reply

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I mean, we could fuck off to tor and see what boards they have there. I don't want to be used as an exit node for random highly illegal bullshit

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OBJECTION! lemmy.ml Objection@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2024-04-30
#155 · (edited) Quote Reply

I notice you didn't answer the question.

Because it doesn't matter.

A source that provides exclusive, true information about politicians, but that also has a political bias, is not something that should be blocked outright as though it were misinformation. Otherwise you'd have to block just about every source.

I mean, hell. I sometimes watch John Oliver despite disagreeing with some of his politics and considering him to present a biased or incomplete picture of certain subjects, because I sometimes learn about true things I would not have otherwise been informed about. I'll criticize him, but I'm not going to call for him to be blocked, especially not in the code like this.

At a certain point, you're just censoring proven facts, just on the basis of who said them.

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YiddishMcSquidish lemmy.today YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today
Joined: 2025-03-10
#156 · (edited) Quote Reply

Apology accepted.
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mathemachristian [he/him] lemmy.blahaj.zone mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2025-06-05
#157 · Quote Reply

Remember when they didn't release the rnc emails they hacked, but did release the dnc's? Tell me why that is you think. Be honest with yourself.

Any source on this?

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acockworkorange mander.xyz acockworkorange@mander.xyz
Joined: 2023-06-09
#158 · Quote Reply

What part of having a blocklist for your own instance is asserting authority over other instances?

It's not for one instance. PieFed's block list can only be edited by changing the source code. I'm more than in favor if giving instance owners control over their server. If said list was just a default, easily editable from the user (admin) interface, that would be OK. But as it is, it's an attempt to exert control over other people's servers, no ifs or buts about it.

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null piefed.nullspace.lol null@piefed.nullspace.lol
Joined: 2025-10-14
#159 · Quote Reply

Don't offer it by default. Offer a feature. Then, separately entirely from the project, offer a block list or set of block lists. Have that extra step. Nearly all software users, and yes especially self-hosting server admins, use default settings. By declaring yourself as the arbiter of all things bad and including it by default, you have changed your software from a neutral party, to one that ...

So looks like you concede that your take that it would require ages to remove the blocklist because you would have to check 1000s of sources one by one or have absolutely no blocklist was completely stupid.

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davel lemmy.ml davel@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-07-08
#160 · Quote Reply

No, very probably not all PieFed instances, and AFAIK the socialist sites are not in that list of defaults.

If you’re going to make public accusations, please don’t sabotage yourself by making incorrect or imprecise claims.

Users that prefer a more curated and politically uniform experience might prefer PieFed over the alternatives.

There’s no reason to think that. I’d argue that Lemmygrad is more curated and politically uniform than any PieFed instance is.

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davel lemmy.ml davel@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-07-08
#161 · Quote Reply

People were mad at Lemmy having a hard coded blocklist before, fortunately the dev sensibly removed it. This is worse than the one Lemmy had.

Lemmy still has a site blocklist for URL posts, though it doesn’t come pre-populated at all, so it’s basically disabled by default. Same with the slur filter.

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GodlessCommie lemmy.world K1nsey6@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-14
#162 · Quote Reply

Anyone who disagrees is a hyperzionist child eater. you're not beating the allegations

You are struggling so hard

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davel lemmy.ml davel@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-07-08
#163 · (edited) Quote Reply

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Neither Lemmy nor PieFed puts locks on anything, other than what an instance’s admins choose to put on them. One might try to argue that PieFed’s optional default blocklist is a bridge too far, but that’s about it.

Edit to add: Okay, PieFed does put some locks on by default, though they can be unlocked.

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Skullgrid lemmy.world Skullgrid@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-29
#164 · Quote Reply

You are struggling so hard

well at least I'm not pissing off the people that should be allying with me and acting to empower those who hate me.

also, your mum struggles to fit my fat cock in her arse

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Eugene V. Debs' Ghost lemmy.dbzer0.com eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2024-10-10
#165 · Quote Reply

Remember when they didn't release the rnc emails they hacked, but did release the dnc's? Tell me why that is you think. Be honest with yourself.

No I don't, would you mind linking a citation on this claim?

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Dave lemmy.nz Dave@lemmy.nz
Joined: 2023-06-02
#166 · Quote Reply

so they’re both hosts that serve and share content using the same protocol?

Yes they are completely different front and backends but they use the same protocol (ActivityPub).

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Dave lemmy.nz Dave@lemmy.nz
Joined: 2023-06-02
#167 · Quote Reply

Same backend, different frontend

No they are different backends, they just use the same protocol.

Teseraract, Photon, and Mlmym are different frontends for Lemmy.

PieFed has completely separate frontend and backend code from Lemmy's code.

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davel lemmy.ml davel@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-07-08
#168 · Quote Reply

It was only about 15 years ago that censorship was an extreme taboo on the internet. I miss those times deeply.

ACTUALLY IT’S ABOUT ETHICS IN GAMING JOURNALISM

Yeah… I don’t miss it the slightest. It was so bad that Breadtube came to be in reaction to it.

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jatone lemmy.dbzer0.com jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2024-10-13
#169 · (edited) Quote Reply

"Changing the setting" would involve forking the codebase, as it's hardcoded iirc
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GodlessCommie lemmy.world K1nsey6@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-14
#170 · Quote Reply

well at least I'm not pissing off the people that should be allying with me and acting to empower those who hate me. also, your mum struggles to fit my fat cock in her arse

Well, there's your confusion, liberals are not allies to the left, liberals are allies to conservatives. We are not even close in goals.

No one cares about your tiny incel cock

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Serinus lemmy.world Serinus@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-14
#171 · Quote Reply

Because it doesn't matter. A source that provides exclusive, true information about politicians, but that also has a political bias, is not something that should be blocked outright as though it were misinformation. Otherwise you'd have to block just about every source. I mean, hell. I sometimes watch John Oliver despite disagreeing with some of his politics and considering him to present a bia...

Yes, because Fox News is known for their facts. (No one mention the court case.)

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Skullgrid lemmy.world Skullgrid@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-29
#172 · Quote Reply

Well, there's your confusion, liberals are not allies to the left, liberals are allies to conservatives. We are not even close in goals. No one cares about your tiny incel cock

that's right comrade, who cares about civil liberties? Let's assist the further and further right party until we reach true communism!

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GodlessCommie lemmy.world K1nsey6@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-14
#173 · Quote Reply

that's right comrade, who cares about civil liberties? Let's assist the further and further right party until we reach true communism!

It's liberals aiding Republicans not us

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OBJECTION! lemmy.ml Objection@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2024-04-30
#174 · Quote Reply

Yes, because Fox News is known for their facts. (No one mention the court case.)

Who was talking about Fox News? I thought we were discussing WikiLeaks.

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Bizzle lemmy.world bizzle@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-12
#175 · Quote Reply

The right wing has ass fucked the entire world into the ground, I say good riddance.

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jatone lemmy.dbzer0.com jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2024-10-13
#176 · (edited) Quote Reply

It's not for one instance. PieFed's block list can only be edited by changing the source code. I'm more than in favor if giving instance owners control over their server. If said list was just a default, easily editable from the user (admin) interface, that would be OK. But as it is, it's an attempt to exert control over other people's servers, no ifs or buts about it.
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Skullgrid lemmy.world Skullgrid@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-29
#177 · Quote Reply

It's liberals aiding Republicans not us

yeah, you see them saying "don't vote democrat, just let the republicans take over" on here? Because I see the so called communists saying that shit over and over again instead of supporting democrats like Mohani or whatever the NYC mayor is.

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Arthur Besse lemmy.ml cypherpunks@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2022-01-17
#178 · Quote Reply

spending hundreds of comments defending the right… yeah, find five.

ok 🙄

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Skullgrid lemmy.world Skullgrid@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-29
#179 · Quote Reply

ok 🙄

My modlog which contains authoritarian treatment to me from tankie .ml bastards

Oh goodness. It's almost as if what I'm suggesting is being done to me by the authoritarian cunts I despise! This surely means I'm not on the left at all, and want people to have zero civil liberties

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Arthur Besse lemmy.ml cypherpunks@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2022-01-17
#180 · Quote Reply

My modlog which contains authoritarian treatment to me from tankie .ml bastards Oh goodness. It's almost as if what I'm suggesting is being done to me by the authoritarian cunts I despise! This surely means I'm not on the left at all, and want people to have zero civil liberties

it's been well over 6 months since anyone from .ml removed one of your comments; your bigotry lately has instead been getting removed by mods from many other places (including several from your own instance).

source

i'm an admin so i can see the identities behind mod actions.

(fwiw i just checked and i see that i have personally never moderated you, but i concur with other .ml mods' previous decisions to do so.)

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Skullgrid lemmy.world Skullgrid@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-29
#181 · Quote Reply

it's been well over 6 months since anyone from .ml removed one of your comments; your bigotry lately has instead been getting removed by mods from many other places (including several from your own instance). ::: spoiler source i'm an admin so i can see the identities behind mod actions. (fwiw i just checked and i see that i have personally never moderated you, but i concur with other .ml mods'...

and what were the actions I got moderated for on the other instances? Suggesting feeding palestinian orphans to elon musk?

I got too fucking angry that capitalist dickheads are ripping off customers by misstating the amount of memory is in computer components. The MOST right wing, bootlicker thing you can imagine.

I fly off the handle when people piss me off. Does that make me a centrist?

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tigeruppercut lemmy.zip tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2023-08-20
#182 · Quote Reply

The right wing has ass fucked the entire world into the ground, I say good riddance.

Yeah but, know your enemy and all that

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p4rzivalrp2 piefed.social p4rzivalrp2@piefed.social
Joined: 2026-02-22
#183 · Quote Reply

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Literally yesterday I tried hosting a piefed instance, with no intervention, it applied these exact lists, and there was no option to change it which is why I switched back to self hosted lemmy

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A_Random_Idiot lemmy.world A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-05
#184 · Quote Reply

Yeah but, know your enemy and all that

We know the enemy.

We know every unoriginal comment, trick, and bullshit they do, because they have repeated them over and over again for decades.

We don't have to keep giving them the false legitimacy of equal time or attention.

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tigeruppercut lemmy.zip tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2023-08-20
#185 · Quote Reply

We know the enemy. We know every unoriginal comment, trick, and bullshit they do, because they have repeated them over and over again for decades. We don't have to keep giving them the false legitimacy of equal time or attention.

We don’t have to keep giving them the false legitimacy of equal time or attention.

If I want to point something out that a shithole site is promoting, I don't need admin to put up a baby gate so I can't talk about it. I don't know how that relates to legitimizing anything.

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Sharkticon lemmy.zip Sharkticon@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-12-21
#186 · Quote Reply

In reply to an earlier post

I absolutely am using it as a pejorative.

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jatone lemmy.dbzer0.com jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2024-10-13
#187 · (edited) Quote Reply

Literally yesterday I tried hosting a piefed instance, with no intervention, it applied these exact lists, and there was no option to change it which is why I switched back to self hosted lemmy
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IndustryStandard lemmy.world IndustryStandard@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-01-18
#188 · Quote Reply

I can only imagine the person coming up with this idea

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ohshit604 sh.itjust.works ohshit604@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-02-08
#189 · Quote Reply

yeah, you see them saying "don't vote democrat, just let the republicans take over" on here? Because I see the so called communists saying that shit over and over again instead of supporting democrats like Mohani or whatever the NYC mayor is.

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davel lemmy.ml davel@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-07-08
#190 · (edited) Quote Reply

In reply to an earlier post

Neither PieFed the platform nor piefed.social the instance block lemmy.ml:
https://codeberg.org/rimu/pyfedi/blame/commit/c9688103c45b5c473fdc388eb92ac70438b48b86/app/cli.py#L147-L154

By default, Piefed the platform blocks over two dozen far-right/fascist instances and two leftist instances: hexbear and lemmygrad. It's a hard-coded Overton window.

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whatiswrongwithyou lemmy.ml whatiswrongwithyou@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2026-05-07
#191 · Quote Reply

In reply to an earlier post

Good job. You should be proud of yourself for making this post.

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whatiswrongwithyou lemmy.ml whatiswrongwithyou@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2026-05-07
#192 · Quote Reply

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Report it

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davel lemmy.ml davel@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-07-08
#193 · (edited) Quote Reply

In reply to an earlier post

I expected to see thegrayzone.com and was not disappointed.

They scored yet another vindication this week, this time on the OPCW cover-up of the 2018 Douma, Syria false-flag attack.

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p4rzivalrp2 piefed.social p4rzivalrp2@piefed.social
Joined: 2026-02-22
#194 · Quote Reply

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I'm not going to look through the code for proof for an online argument, but the reason I believe that is because there is/was code that searched for anonymous and No. in any uploaded image, and failed with a fake error message when you try to upload it

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YiddishMcSquidish lemmy.today YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today
Joined: 2025-03-10
#195 · Quote Reply

Report it
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davel lemmy.ml davel@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-07-08
#196 · (edited) Quote Reply

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The commenter is a bit confused. There are two distinct things at play.

This post is about the domain blocklist, which is not mandatory on install—though most new instances choose it—and can be removed by an admin with either the patience or the database skill to remove it.

The other thing at play is the hard-coded list of banned fediverse instances, which are automatically added to the federation blocklist on new instances. These can also be removed by an admin. The list contains far-right & outright fascist instances, threads.com, and two socialist instances: Hexbear & Lemmygrad.

[Edited to fix link.]

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Arthur Besse lemmy.ml cypherpunks@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2022-01-17
#197 · Quote Reply

and what were the actions I got moderated for on the other instances? Suggesting feeding palestinian orphans to elon musk? I got too fucking angry that capitalist dickheads are ripping off customers by misstating the amount of memory is in computer components. The MOST right wing, bootlicker thing you can imagine. I fly off the handle when people piss me off. Does that make me a centrist?

the most recent comment you had deleted was for violating rule 1 of !leftymemes@lemmy.dbzer0.com.

before that it was for racism, genocide apologia, etc etc.

i recommend reading your own modlog and reflecting on it.

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YiddishMcSquidish lemmy.today YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today
Joined: 2025-03-10
#198 · Quote Reply

I absolutely am using it as a pejorative.
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Sharkticon lemmy.zip Sharkticon@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-12-21
#199 · Quote Reply

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A liberal calling me a bad person is like Ronald Reagan calling me a radical.

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Skullgrid lemmy.world Skullgrid@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-29
#200 · (edited) Quote Reply

the most recent comment you had deleted was for violating rule 1 of !leftymemes@lemmy.dbzer0.com. before that it was for racism, genocide apologia, etc etc. i recommend reading your own modlog and reflecting on it.

before that it was for racism, genocide apologia, etc etc.

bullshit.

EDIT : Yeah, one instance of racism of using russian against an asshole acting in the interests of russia , and another of calling a self hating black woman a self hating black woman. The fucking leader of the conservative party in the UK.

EDIT2 : I'm willing to bet genocide apologia was "maybe hamas should not have kidnapped those people, but Israel also shouldn't be doing all the horrid shit it's doing either " and not "the holocaust was when a jewish person fell over instead of 11 million people of various races and creeds dying".

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Pipster lemmy.blahaj.zone Pipster@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2024-10-29
#201 · Quote Reply

In reply to an earlier post

It isn't censorship though? Just as much as people have the right to speak, others have the right to not have to listen. The beauty of the fediverse is that literally everyone has the right to say what they want, you can join a new instance or make your own but if you start saying stuff that people don't want to listen to then they can't be forced to listen.

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