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Delilah (She/Her) lemmy.blahaj.zone TheGingerNut@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2023-06-21
#202 · Quote Reply

I don't understand this, if it's installable on gentoo using the default method of building from source then it has to be open source, right? Or have I misunderstood gentoo? I considered trying it once, but didn't fancy compiling everything on a potato.

That's the exact point. I didn't realize firefox was open source despite the fact my package manager had probably built it for me at some point.

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TwitchingCheese lemmy.world TwitchingCheese@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-06
#203 · Quote Reply

Years ago I watched a friend type google.com into the search/address bar of chrome, click the link, then begin to search. Painful.

Reminds me of the time SEO put a tech blog article as the top link for "Facebook login" and they got a shitload of people complaining about how they couldn't log into this new Facebook and wanted the old one back.

https://nyulocal.com/the-internet-inept-mistake-readwriteweb-for-facebook-hilarity-ensues-482cc4d1ba68

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Deebster infosec.pub Deebster@infosec.pub
Joined: 2023-10-16
#204 · Quote Reply

I feel obligated to mention Logseq here. It's similar to obsidian, but FLOSS (AGPL-v3).

I have a love-hate relationship with Logseq. I fantasise about rewriting it to better suit my needs, but it's definitely a lot of work to do this for both desktop and Android.

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4am lemmy.zip 4am@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-06-23
#205 · Quote Reply

That’s weird because mid 40s (to mid 50s) should be the ideal age to know this stuff right now.

Exactly! Like, how? People who have worked office jobs their whole lives…I just don’t get it

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Auth lemmy.world Auth@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-06-11
#206 · Quote Reply

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I dont think thats being fair and I dont think that is true. Linux users perceive a video showing real issues on linux to be shitting on linux but do not consider a video that contains windows issues to be shitting on windows.

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sleet01 lemmy.ca sleet01@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-06-12
#207 · Quote Reply

Condescension means "patronizing attitude or behavior"; your comic doesn't show condescension so you probably need the dictionary definition spelled out.

.../s

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NightmareQueenJune lemmy.world NightmareQueenJune@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-15
#208 · Quote Reply

Putting folders and symlinks in the same category is wild. Most people I know (basically every non-elderly non-toddler person) knows what a folder is. Yet only some of the programmers I know know what a symlink is. Not even a chance for non-programers. At most they'll know what a shortcut is. Which is not the same as a symlink.

Sorry, english isn't my first language and I confused shortcuts and symlinks. I meant shortcuts of course!

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linuxPIPEpower discuss.tchncs.de linuxPIPEpower@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2023-11-21
#209 · Quote Reply

syncthing + obsidian is a rockstar.

Like everything else Syncthing, it works well when it is working well.

Far from foolproof.

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linuxPIPEpower discuss.tchncs.de linuxPIPEpower@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2023-11-21
#210 · Quote Reply

Judging by how huge share of browser usage Firefox has, I am pretty sure vast majority of normies know nothing about Firefox

lots of people know about firefox, they would just never use it.

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linuxPIPEpower discuss.tchncs.de linuxPIPEpower@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2023-11-21
#211 · Quote Reply

Not too long ago, in the internet explorer era, Firefox had a huge market share. Something like 30%. Even if they didn't use it themselves, they probably knew someone that did. They may not remember it, but at some point they knew. They may say they don't know firefox, but if you ask them "do you remember there were some people that didn't use internet explorer before chrome?" They'll probably ...

opera

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Deebster infosec.pub Deebster@infosec.pub
Joined: 2023-10-16
#212 · (edited) Quote Reply

Wait, who was making that claim?

I had a quick look, and all I could see is this post Taleya made where no-one made those claims.

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linuxPIPEpower discuss.tchncs.de linuxPIPEpower@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2023-11-21
#213 · Quote Reply

As soon as a kind of Tech starts getting fanboys, you start getting ignorant bollocks about it, not just from the fanboys but also from the kind of people that, just as emotionally, set themselves against the fanboys not because of any understanding of the weaknesses of the Tech itself but purelly as a psychological need to set themselves against the fanboys. Linux used to have a huge barrier t...

when more and different people get involved for different reasons then they will change things. since a lot of growth has come from nearby gamer communities, they will bring those habits and forms with them.

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imetators lemmy.dbzer0.com imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-06-10
#214 · Quote Reply

lots of people know about firefox, they would just never use it.

1 million of people is a lot. 1 million out of 8 billion is not so much.

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MonkeMischief lemmy.today MonkeMischief@lemmy.today
Joined: 2023-10-24
#215 · Quote Reply

ArcGIS is the proprietary industry standard, but QGIS is catching up. I personally don't like Arc and have only used it when I was in industry. Even in academia colleges pay for ArcGIS but I just use QGIS. You can also customize QGIS easily and there're a lot of community plugins. And works well with other open source tools or CLI tools. Main thing that makes Arc popular in industry is the liab...

QGIS sounds really cool! I'll definitely bring that up so she can practice that Environmental Sciences degree. :)

Insane about the liability angle. I had never considered that! Sounds like far too serious a business for my tastes.

I'm glad there's a lot of open source libraries, and Linux is heavily employed in scientific and academic circles, at least. :)

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MonkeMischief lemmy.today MonkeMischief@lemmy.today
Joined: 2023-10-24
#216 · Quote Reply

Don’t quote me on that tho. –Me. endash MonkeMischief

Ya caught me bein' a bit lazy! X_X

Thanks for the formatting help. :)

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MousePotatoDoesStuff piefed.social MousePotatoDoesStuff@piefed.social
Joined: 2026-04-22
#217 · Quote Reply

it's just whoop

and i oop

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Fluffy Kitty Cat slrpnk.net fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net
Joined: 2025-01-27
#218 · Quote Reply

I wouldn't be surprised if gen alpha hasn't heard if it because schools primarily use Chromebooks and the only browser is chrome

and a lot of people just use chrome on desktop anyways. not counting all the browsers that are just chrome in a costume

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BurgerBaron piefed.zip BurgerBaron@piefed.zip
Joined: 2026-05-11
#219 · Quote Reply

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I was expecting worse from Firefox actually. Mozilla have had a lot of layoffs in the past few years.

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smeg feddit.uk smeg@feddit.uk
Joined: 2023-07-01
#220 · Quote Reply

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That's how they became relatively bright, by asking questions to learn about new things!

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rumba lemmy.zip rumba@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2024-09-24
#221 · Quote Reply

Like everything else Syncthing, it works well when it is working well. Far from foolproof.

Been using it for 2 years now with a large number of individual shares, 0 issues other than the occasional exclusion list. You must have use cases I don't have.

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ricdeh lemmy.world ricdeh@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-17
#222 · Quote Reply

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Nonsensical argument. Just because a piece of software is FLOSS and non-Google, it is not automatically a "weekend side quest". Big Tech is very happy that these false equivalencies have spread as well as they did, but they don't hold a kernel of truth, at least not anymore.

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ricdeh lemmy.world ricdeh@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-17
#223 · Quote Reply

1 million of people is a lot. 1 million out of 8 billion is not so much.

How did you get the idea that only 1 million people know of Firefox? I'd say the true figure is at least two, perhaps even three orders of magnitude greater than that. Browser user statistics don't really say much about that.

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ricdeh lemmy.world ricdeh@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-17
#224 · Quote Reply

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What I find more disrespectful is people that join the greater community, but who have no appreciation for the giant amount of philosophical and political (on-top of the technical) work that was done to enable the relatively free/libre and open environment we have with Linux-based operating systems today. I find it so sad that GNU haters have successfully established divisive memes such as the Stallman GNU/Linux copypasta. We owe so much to the GNU project and GPL license, and I think we would be in a much worse place today if Linux had not been licensed under the GPL. I am fundamentally opposed to people who try to move the distributions into a less free direction. Some may see this as elitism, but this opposition is not born out of a desire to dominate or humiliate anyone, but rather to protect the many great achievements of the FLOSS movement.

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imetators lemmy.dbzer0.com imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-06-10
#225 · Quote Reply

How did you get the idea that only 1 million people know of Firefox? I'd say the true figure is at least two, perhaps even three orders of magnitude greater than that. Browser user statistics don't really say much about that.

That was an example for a "grand scheme" of things.

Say, out of 1000000 people only 22600 are Firefox users. That is quite a lot. Now remove two zeros and we get 226 users per 10000. Remove 2 more and out of 100 we got 2 people who use Firefox.

2.26% is a fuck to of people. But if we compare to the whole market, that is negligible. Chrome, for instance, has 68%. Add other chromium based browsers, would make around 75%.

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arcine jlai.lu arcine@jlai.lu
Joined: 2026-02-15
#226 · Quote Reply

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Our generation ! I am part of (older) GenZ myself.

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faintwhenfree lemmus.org faintwhenfree@lemmus.org
Joined: 2023-07-16
#227 · Quote Reply

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I get the point, but going away from Google search is so easy.

Gmail on the other hand I understand why people are still stuck using and I don't push them to switch away.

But it drives me nuts that some normies in my life will complain that Google has gone worse, still refuse to switch. There are some who don't know how to change default and I still get it, but there is one mf at my work, he changed his default in edge from bing to Google and when I said since you know how to change default why not use DDG or startpage or honestly any other non giant alternative. He just says too much work.

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thevoidzero lemmy.world thevoidzero@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-01-25
#228 · (edited) Quote Reply

QGIS sounds really cool! I'll definitely bring that up so she can practice that Environmental Sciences degree. :) Insane about the liability angle. I had never considered that! Sounds like far too serious a business for my tastes. I'm glad there's a lot of open source libraries, and Linux is heavily employed in scientific and academic circles, at least. :)

Yeah, I really like it. But I also started with it because my university at that time only taught open source apps, and later on other universities did Arc but I just did the same thing in QGIS. But when you're starting it might be a little of an adjustment.

They also just released v4.0 with full migration to qt6, I haven't tested it out that well yet.

Btw I am currently working on a programming language that uses custom syntax to do fun analysis related to networks (directed graphs). And I have a GIS support for reading/writing network and attributes. I made it for rivers first, but I'm expanding to all directed graph. I've a mix of Computer and Geosciences background so I had fun doing something in the middle that most people don't.

Edit: I am looking for people to try it out, but I have problem finding people that want to code in a new language, and for network related tasks.

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mabeledo lemmy.world mabeledo@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-09-01
#229 · Quote Reply

I dont think thats being fair and I dont think that is true. Linux users perceive a video showing real issues on linux to be shitting on linux but do not consider a video that contains windows issues to be shitting on windows.
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jaybone lemmy.zip jaybone@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-02-08
#230 · Quote Reply

Exactly! Like, how? People who have worked office jobs their whole lives…I just don’t get it

Not so much office jobs, but that the late 70s to the mid 90s was when you had to figure all this computer shit out on your own, in order to play games and connect to the internet and whatever other shit. Before that people just weren’t exposed as much, there wasn’t even really a commercial market. And after that, everything was made simple, pre-installed, easy user interfaces, more technical details were hidden to make it easier for the consumer to consume content without needing to be technical. That’s why around that age group I would expect to be the most tech savvy.

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EddoWagt feddit.nl EddoWagt@feddit.nl
Joined: 2023-07-16
#231 · Quote Reply

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I don't know you

I'm Edgar :)

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Phoenixz lemmy.ca phoenixz@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-06-10
#232 · Quote Reply

I can never see any media hosted from files catbox.moe, am I the only one?

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ptu sopuli.xyz ptu@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2025-06-04
#233 · Quote Reply

I get the point, but going away from Google search is so easy. Gmail on the other hand I understand why people are still stuck using and I don't push them to switch away. But it drives me nuts that some normies in my life will complain that Google has gone worse, still refuse to switch. There are some who don't know how to change default and I still get it, but there is one mf at my work, he ch...

Gmail was about easiest to switch away from. You can just create a new email account and have two mailboxes. Then update the new email to services as they go.

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definitemaybe lemmy.ca definitemaybe@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2025-09-08
#234 · Quote Reply

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I'm loving Logseq. It's the open source software I support monthly. It (plus what I learned from "Building a Second Brain" by Tiago Forte) changed my life. Having a low-barrier (daily journal everything) place to dump everything (easily discoverable later with back-linking tags) helps me manage my ADHD.

I highly recommend it. Once you wrap your head around the idea that the daily journal is where you dump just about everything, it's pretty smooth sailing. (The daily journal automatically dates everything, then the pages themselves automatically pull a reverse chronological feed of every time you wrote about the thing, and queries allow for more targeted, dynamic searching, like all tasks due in the next week, or all tasks for the project, etc.)

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definitemaybe lemmy.ca definitemaybe@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2025-09-08
#235 · Quote Reply

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lol, are you me? Our Signal chat is ⅓ chat, ⅓ grocery list, and ⅓ my wife's notes to herself.

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faintwhenfree lemmus.org faintwhenfree@lemmus.org
Joined: 2023-07-16
#236 · (edited) Quote Reply

Gmail was about easiest to switch away from. You can just create a new email account and have two mailboxes. Then update the new email to services as they go.

With banks and financial services in general being a bitch about changing contact details. That's a form and a visit to the branch for each bank, broker, investment advisor, direct fund provider. That's already almost 30 applications. I haven't even counted stuff like vehicular services, government tax portal, property tax portal, electricity provider, gas provider, internet provider. Not all of whom allow changing for email address digitally or without some complicated support ticket.

It's such a mountain of changes I myself have only gotten through the list halfway and it's been 4 years of trying. I can never recommend that to anyone in my family, they'll just hate me.

P.s. This might just be my country specific problem, I understand other countries are easier.

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ptu sopuli.xyz ptu@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2025-06-04
#237 · Quote Reply

With banks and financial services in general being a bitch about changing contact details. That's a form and a visit to the branch for each bank, broker, investment advisor, direct fund provider. That's already almost 30 applications. I haven't even counted stuff like vehicular services, government tax portal, property tax portal, electricity provider, gas provider, internet provider. Not all o...

Wow never thought about that, I changed it to all those digitally and it didn’t require much at all. One service required me to send an email and that felt a bit old-fashioned, but nothing like you described.

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rumba lemmy.zip rumba@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2024-09-24
#238 · Quote Reply

lol, are you me? Our Signal chat is ⅓ chat, ⅓ grocery list, and ⅓ my wife's notes to herself.

I might be. Have one of us time-traveled recently?

Come to think of it, if we're time-traveling, does recently even have a viable definition?

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Hypocrite9554 lemmy.world Hypocrite9554@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-11-12
#239 · Quote Reply

I can never see any media hosted from files catbox.moe, am I the only one?

Looks like there's an outage at the moment

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MousePotatoDoesStuff lemmy.world MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-03-09
#240 · Quote Reply

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I think this might make for a stronger argument with "Linux" instead of "Google".

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desertdruid lemmy.blahaj.zone desertdruid@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2024-08-14
#241 · Quote Reply

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oh man it sures takes all my weekend to install firefox and set a search engine

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molten_boron sh.itjust.works molten_boron@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2026-01-08
#242 · Quote Reply

I can never see any media hosted from files catbox.moe, am I the only one?

You're not alone, I can't either. Not sure if I've ever been able to.

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MousePotatoDoesStuff lemmy.world MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-03-09
#243 · Quote Reply

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it doen'st.

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MousePotatoDoesStuff lemmy.world MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-03-09
#244 · Quote Reply

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lokening???

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DeckPacker lemmy.world BennyTheExplorer@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-07-29
#245 · Quote Reply

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Honestly, switching search engines is pretty normie friendly. I've got a lot of non-techy friends or family, that use Ecosia or something. They also did it on their own, I didn't even encourage them to do it.

With things like Linux it's a bit harder. But if they don't rely on any specialized software, they are usually fine with me offering to upgrade their Laptops so Linux. I installed Linux Mint on my Mom's Laptop and she can use it as well as Windows. She never complained about it.

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Johnmannesca lemmy.world Johnmannesca@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-26
#246 · Quote Reply

oh man it sures takes all my weekend to install firefox and set a search engine

It's surprising the number of people who don't do that last part

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Vegafjord oakframer lemmy.ml libre_warrior@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2021-02-28
#247 · Quote Reply

lokening???

It comes from anglish "loken" meaning to heal, it is related to Old English "læce" IPA /ˈlæː.t͡ʃe/ meaning doctor.

https://wordbook.anglish.org/

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/læce#Old_English

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Canaconda lemmy.ca Canconda@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2025-07-10
#248 · Quote Reply

Honestly, switching search engines is pretty normie friendly. I've got a lot of non-techy friends or family, that use Ecosia or something. They also did it on their own, I didn't even encourage them to do it. With things like Linux it's a bit harder. But if they don't rely on any specialized software, they are usually fine with me offering to upgrade their Laptops so Linux. I installed Linux Mi...

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HrabiaVulpes europe.pub HrabiaVulpes@europe.pub
Joined: 2026-02-12
#249 · Quote Reply

Every group of nerds assumes average person knows more about their obsession...

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spoopy lemmy.world spoopy@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-10-22
#250 · Quote Reply

I can never see any media hosted from files catbox.moe, am I the only one?

Do you happen to live in Spain during a football game

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faintwhenfree lemmus.org faintwhenfree@lemmus.org
Joined: 2023-07-16
#251 · Quote Reply

Wow never thought about that, I changed it to all those digitally and it didn’t require much at all. One service required me to send an email and that felt a bit old-fashioned, but nothing like you described.

Yeah it's fucked. And the worst part is, most of these places don't even open on non working days, so I can't even do these on weekend.

My country does have identity theft problem running rampart, so I don't totally blame the services, it's a pain but at least a leaked email password here and there wouldn't automatically mean losing access to finance. I understand why it's been designed such a way, but man it's a such a mountain of a task.

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