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n0respect lemmy.dbzer0.com n0respect@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2026-01-02
#602 ·

it means a minority can pass a rule without it being even seen by the majority Why do you think that?

I think I wasnt thinking clearly. sticked posts it doesn't matter what the up/downvote ratio is, its still gets pushed to all. COrrect?

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n0respect lemmy.dbzer0.com n0respect@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2026-01-02
#603 · (edited)

Did you not read the rules for joining DB0 before you joined. They clearly state a full anti-zionist stance right there.

eyeroll yes. Do you think I support zionism?

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LeninWeave [they] lemmy.ml LeninWeave@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2026-01-05
#604 · (edited)

you sound charming, I hope you stay away from those things for everyone else's sake

"I got kicked out of several places by people accusing me of being a bigot" is an incredible comment to make, lmao.

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Noja sopuli.xyz Noja@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2025-03-26
#605 ·

You’re right, the Jews should have negotiated their way out of Auschwitz-Birkenau. Surely a reasonable deal could have been made with the Nazi génocidaires.

Whataboutism, nice. But surely starting another war was the only reasonable choice for hamas..

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BrainInABox lemmy.ml BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2024-12-11
#606 · (edited)

You're really not arguing in good faith, are you? Not supporting hamas doesn't mean I'm not in favor of resistance against genocide. But just to clear this up once more: I am against genocide I support resistance against genocide I still hold resistance groups to certain minimal standards Hamas does not fulfill my standards So no, I do not support Hamas. But yes, I do support Palestinian resist...

"I don't oppose resistance against genocide, I just coincidentally oppose all groups resisting genocide"

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lmmarsano group.lt lmmarsano@group.lt
Joined: 2026-01-01
#607 · (edited)

"Rules are important! I’m a good German, I follow the rules." -German soldier in the 1940s

Cool non-answer.
What part of civility rules typical across lemmy such as dbzer0's own

Don’t be shitty. i.e. telling people to kill themselves, or bad-jacketing is bannable.

allows exceptions for unhinged promotion of violence against commenters whom we unreasonably allege or "bad-jacket" as Zionist?
Uncivil denunciations of Zionism are uncivil; therefore, moderators enforcing civility must prosecute.
No evidence was given the moderators penalize civil denunciations of Zionism.
Enforcing civility doesn't imply Zionism.

This is basic logic.
Denying basic logic implies staggering stupidity or dishonesty.

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BrainInABox lemmy.ml BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2024-12-11
#608 ·

and you don't support resistance against genocide in practice What I don't agree with is that wording. I don't support this specific form of resistance against genocide in practice. What you wrote there most literally means I don't support resistance against genocide in practice in general, which is what I can't agree with. If we're just talking about Hamas specifically, or the shape that resis...

the shape that resistance has taken in this genocide specifically, then I agree with the statement.

Ok, so it's not that you oppose resistance to all genocides, you just oppose resistance to the Palestinian genocide.

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BrainInABox lemmy.ml BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2024-12-11
#609 ·

If you don't want to engage in a civil discussion, that's alright with me. But if you run out of arguments, just stop commenting?

Theres nothing civil about your genocide apologism

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BrainInABox lemmy.ml BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2024-12-11
#610 ·

(Alt-)"Left" != Left, and in fact shares far more in common with Right (aka: fascism).

Sure, if you're a politically illiterate centrist

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BrainInABox lemmy.ml BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2024-12-11
#611 ·

Ain't much difference between MAGA and tankies.

Sure, if you're a moron

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BrainInABox lemmy.ml BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2024-12-11
#612 ·

Good thing I didn't say communist then

"I said commie, not new deal Democrat!"

Same sentence, new era

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BrainInABox lemmy.ml BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2024-12-11
#613 ·

Nah, I don't think Marx would like tankies

Marx was a tankie, lol. Shows you've never actually read him

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davel lemmy.ml davel@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-07-08
#614 · (edited)

Whataboutism, nice. But surely starting another war was the only reasonable choice for hamas..

This is Holocaust exceptionalism. It is a trivialization of the slow, grinding genocide that Israel has been prosecuting for the last eighty years.

The great majority of Gazans were born in and have lived their entire lives in that open-air prison, that ghetto, their parents having been condemned there, many after their homes were stolen in the Nakba ethnic cleansing campaign. All Palestinians in Israel have lived under apartheid, settler-colonial rule their entire lives, in their own land, under military occupation.

Your whataboutism thought-terminating cliché is in bad faith.

Citations Needed podcast: Whataboutism - The Media's Favorite Rhetorical Shield Against Criticism of US Policy

Since the beginning of what’s generally called ‘RussiaGate’ three years ago, pundits, media outlets, even comedians have all become insta-experts on supposed Russian propaganda techniques. The most cunning of these tricks, we are told, is that of “whataboutism” – a devious Soviet tactic of deflecting criticism by pointing out the accusers’ hypocrisy and inconsistencies. The tu quoque - or, “you, also” - fallacy, but with a unique Slavic flavor of nihilism, used by Trump and leftists alike in an effort to change the subject and focus on the faults of the United States rather than the crimes of Official State Enemies.

But what if "whataboutism" isn’t describing a propaganda technique, but in fact is one itself: a zombie phrase that’s seeped into everyday liberal discourse that – while perhaps useful in the abstract - has manifestly turned any appeal to moral consistency into a cunning Russian psyop. From its origins in the Cold War as a means of deflecting and apologizing for Jim Crow to its braindead contemporary usage as a way of not engaging any criticism of the United States as the supposed arbiter of human rights, the term "whataboutism" has become a term that - 100 percent of the time - is simply used to defend and legitimizing American empire’s moral narratives.

Ben Burgis at Current Affairs: Is “Whataboutism” Always a Bad Thing?

Discussing the crimes of our own country as well as the crimes of others is not always an effort to downplay other countries’ crimes—it can be a test of whether we are serious about our principles.

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BrainInABox lemmy.ml BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2024-12-11
#615 ·

So no negotiations and no two-state solution then? What do you want?

Lol, the two state solution was never real, but it's been obviously unfeasible for decades now. Anybody still spruking it is doing so in bad faith

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BrainInABox lemmy.ml BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2024-12-11
#616 ·

Whataboutism, nice. But surely starting another war was the only reasonable choice for hamas..

Funny how Israel constantly bombing, shooting, and kidnapping Palestinians prior to October 7th wasn't an act of war, but when Palestinians do it back suddenly it is.

Also good to see we're at the point of referring to any and all analogies as "whataboutism"

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davel lemmy.ml davel@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-07-08
#617 ·

This is Holocaust exceptionalism. It is a trivialization of the slow, grinding genocide that Israel has been prosecuting for the last eighty years. The great majority of Gazans were born in and have lived their entire lives in that open-air prison, that ghetto, their parents having been condemned there, many after their homes were stolen in the Nakba ethnic cleansing campaign. All Palestinians ...

@BrainInABox@lemmy.ml, remember that you’re on lemmy.world, where reporting someone for being a Zionist is likely to only backfire.

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BrainInABox lemmy.ml BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2024-12-11
#618 ·

Notice how the ragebait, communication destroying comments and got'chas are coming from a handful of users in this thread (Cowbee, Riverside, etc.) Ask yourself why they would want to separate the left and who benefits from that. Edit: ah and like clockwork, the "I now want to communicate reasonably" spiel. Not falling for that one. Wow seems like all the bad actors got caught by this. Notice h...

Lol, imagine trying to argue that Cowbee is rage baiting and destroying communications. The most serious case of projection I've even seen

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BrainInABox lemmy.ml BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2024-12-11
#619 ·

That's pretty weak and other instances shouldn't look up to them for this. Let people say, and see, what they want.

Let people say, and see, what they want.

Yes, that's why the defederated with an instance that bans anti Zionism.

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_‌_反いじめ戦隊 ani.social AntiBullyRanger@ani.social
Joined: 2025-02-02
#620 ·

In reply to an earlier post

There’s nothing in that post about ❝credit scores.❞ Karma is what threadiverse uses to evaluate posts, comments, communties, and accounts.

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BrainInABox lemmy.ml BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2024-12-11
#621 ·

In reply to an earlier post

Literally yes

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BrainInABox lemmy.ml BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2024-12-11
#622 ·

In reply to an earlier post

So have the Ukrainian army. Will you condemn the Ukrainian army as terrorists, or is it different because they're white?

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BrainInABox lemmy.ml BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2024-12-11
#623 ·

@BrainInABox@lemmy.ml, remember that you’re on lemmy.world, where reporting someone for being a Zionist is likely to only backfire.

Good point. I'm probably just giving them new moderator candidates lol.

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BrainInABox lemmy.ml BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2024-12-11
#624 ·

In reply to an earlier post

Go back to reddit

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davel lemmy.ml davel@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-07-08
#625 ·

So have the Ukrainian army. Will you condemn the Ukrainian army as terrorists, or is it different because they're white?

TBF most Israelis are no less “white” than Italians, because that’s what Ashkenazi Jews largely are genetically.

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BrainInABox lemmy.ml BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2024-12-11
#626 ·

In reply to an earlier post

Uhuh. Funny how none of that seems to apply to comparing Russia or Hamas to the Nazis....

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BrainInABox lemmy.ml BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2024-12-11
#627 ·

In reply to an earlier post

"We need to be nuanced about genocide!"

Yeah, you're a Zionist

Not every land grab is lebensraum.

They are when you are exterminating the people living there

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LeninWeave [they] lemmy.ml LeninWeave@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2026-01-05
#628 · (edited)

Go back to reddit

I want to clarify that I was being extremely sarcastic in that comment. I was mocking the anti-"tankie" user for saying "follow the rules and be nice" but doing "downvote people with your alt account".

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BrainInABox lemmy.ml BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2024-12-11
#629 ·

In reply to an earlier post

Yeah, probably the South African white genocide too, right?

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BrainInABox lemmy.ml BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2024-12-11
#630 ·

In reply to an earlier post

And everything is a genocide to you

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BrainInABox lemmy.ml BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2024-12-11
#631 ·

In reply to an earlier post

They directly addressed it, ya lying freak

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BrainInABox lemmy.ml BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2024-12-11
#632 ·

In reply to an earlier post

Jesus Christ. Westerners really are the most propagandized people on earth.

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BrainInABox lemmy.ml BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2024-12-11
#633 ·

In reply to an earlier post

Good to see that the definition of tankie now includes anti-Zionism.

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BrainInABox lemmy.ml BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2024-12-11
#634 ·

TBF most Israelis are no less “white” than Italians, because that’s what Ashkenazi Jews largely are genetically.

I was talking about the difference between Ukrainians and Palestinians

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BrainInABox lemmy.ml BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2024-12-11
#635 ·

I want to clarify that I was being extremely sarcastic in that comment. I was mocking the anti-"tankie" user for saying "follow the rules and be nice" but doing "downvote people with your alt account".

Ah, my bad

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davel lemmy.ml davel@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-07-08
#636 · (edited)

I was talking about the difference between Ukrainians and Palestinians

oh right duh

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muelltonne feddit.org muelltonne@feddit.org
Joined: 2024-07-23
#637 ·

In reply to an earlier post

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De-Cossackization

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muelltonne feddit.org muelltonne@feddit.org
Joined: 2024-07-23
#638 ·

In reply to an earlier post

You want an example?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De-Cossackization

And we need to be honest here: Lenin war not a good person. He personally ordered the murder of thousands of people and the Red Terror is not "simply killing people".

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Zacryon feddit.org Zacryon@feddit.org
Joined: 2024-07-10
#639 ·

In reply to an earlier post

I followed your link. It shows a comment you made, yet with another link to a comment by Emopunker@feddit.org. And you claim that they harass people. The comment by Emopunker shows a screenshot where three usernames are listed that share similarities. Emopunker says that they have the suspicion that the shown users are the same person with alt accounts.

In conclusion: I wonder whether you forgot to attach some context, because based on this alone I don't see anything that support your claims.

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∃∀λ programming.dev eah@programming.dev
Joined: 2025-07-09
#640 ·

In reply to an earlier post

I joined to talk about math and programming. It's a letdown that this Podunk platform seems to consist mostly of the weirdest, loudest people who saw the political compass meme and took it way too seriously.

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vga sopuli.xyz vga@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2024-05-27
#641 · (edited)

In reply to an earlier post

The regular: too much internet, not enough grass being touched.

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vga sopuli.xyz vga@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2024-05-27
#642 · (edited)

In reply to an earlier post

You’re wrong, Hamas are in fact “the good guys” in this conflict.

Wow. Well, thanks for openly admitting that one.

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vga sopuli.xyz vga@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2024-05-27
#643 ·

Time to defederate dbzer0?

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electric_nan lemmy.ml electric_nan@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2022-01-15
#644 ·

Zionists eat shit.

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Mannimarco lemmy.dbzer0.com Mannimarco@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-02-04
#645 ·

In reply to an earlier post

I'll just block you instead

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LeninWeave [they] lemmy.ml LeninWeave@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2026-01-05
#646 ·

You’re wrong, Hamas are in fact “the good guys” in this conflict. Wow. Well, thanks for openly admitting that one.

No problem. I don't feel the need to hide my opinions.

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LeninWeave [they] lemmy.ml LeninWeave@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2026-01-05
#647 ·

Time to defederate dbzer0?

Oh no, how will dbzer0 survive without access to a constant supply of condescending Finnish cryptofascist opinions? bye

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LeninWeave [they] lemmy.ml LeninWeave@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2026-01-05
#648 · (edited)

In reply to an earlier post

This is like saying it’s bad to fight for the abolition of the Reichskommissariats.

They're a genocide defender from a Finnish instance, they might actually think that.

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Alaknár sopuli.xyz Alaknar@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2025-06-29
#649 ·

In reply to an earlier post

You mean the colony established over the legitimate Palestinian State?

  1. Palestinian State didn't exist before the very same resolution that created Israel. It was the Palestinian Region of the Ottoman Empire. It's like calling people living in the Alps "Alpians" and stating that "the French and the Swiss colonised the legitimate Alpian State".
  2. Israelites, just like Palestinians, have a historical claim to that territory. If you firmly believe that they should not have any part of it - where would you place them?
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LeninWeave [they] lemmy.ml LeninWeave@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2026-01-05
#650 ·

In reply to an earlier post

Liberals love to call it infighting because it allows them to take credit for all the progress that happened thanks to leftists. And yet they're always on the right-wing side of those "infights".

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Alaknár sopuli.xyz Alaknar@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2025-06-29
#651 ·

This is like saying it’s bad to fight for the abolition of the Reichskommissariats. They're a genocide defender from a Finnish instance, they might actually think that.

I love how you guys call me a "genocide defender" after I've stated so many times that Netanyahu and everybody responsible for the genocide should be tried and eliminated. :D

You're exactly like MAGA - a fundamentalist who believes that if someone isn't 100% committed to ALL tenets of your cause, they're a traitor and an enemy. This tribalism is pathetic and a cancer on our society.

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