It was part of my linux journey long ago, and TBH I bet many still run into in from historical recommendations and popularity.

But I think CachyOS is taking over their "preconfigured arch with the most SEO" spot.

Manjaro was more unstable than Arch ever was, for me.

My experience was:

• They would mess with Arch packages and muck things up.

• It relied on AUR some, which also messed things up.

• 3rd party repos or AUR didn't work, as its not in sync with upstream arch.

• ...Holding back packages didn't fix anything anyway. It just delayed fixes. I found myself trying to install upstream Arch packages.

It turns out Arch Linux is more tested and "held back" than people give it credit for. There's little to gain from forking like that, instead of just contributing to upstream arch testing.

Not to mention the cert thing. Manjaro really did let certs expire many times. When I was new to linux, that took me forever to figure out.

The new e.V. formed in late June, but as far as I understand, they don't actually have control over any of the infrastructure.

Ubuntu and bad updates

This is the only drama in your list I'm not familiar with already. What/when did they last break?

Floorp sounds like an alien or galaxy from Rick and Morty

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Or caddy that does it automatically

But of course it's more complex than that in significantly distributed environments

Yeah sure but in significantly distributed environments I'm sure there's more complexity to it than that

They have embraced the meme

I think the Manjaro devs can't read. Could you mime it?

You could proactively take care of it with a reminder on the calendar. Or alternatively, just let the community inform you when you need to renew it. Both are effective methods.

And my friends wonder why I recommend against Manjaro...

Welcome to Linux, do you want the BenevolentDictatorOS, WeaponsManifaturerOS, MalwareOS or Debian?

The second alternative is a bit of a gamble with trust though eh 😅

Again????? Again???????????

Is there a running tally somehwere? I need something like the credible defense guys'
"0 days since airplane dropped in oceans"

They use LetsEncrypt. There is literally a bot you can install to automate the renewal process daily on a cron schedule and notify you if it fails.

They're just fucking morons managing the infra for their domain.

Why isn’t this an automated processs for them?

Since I have never used the distro but have seen threads like these popping up every time the cert expires, I don't think it takes much trust.

Also it's pretty fucking hilarious.

Yes there is an easy fix that will make the problem go away. At this point you know it's deliberate.

I personally think it's hilarious.

Recently, the nvidia-dkms driver updates wouldn't build for 5.x series kernels, so if you hadn't cleaned up old kernels, the update bombed out before updating the initrd filesystem, the system couldn't boot without intervention. Thankfully, I noticed before trying to reboot my work desktop, and the solution was "apt autoremove && apt upgrade".

But the install media for my desktop at home was 18.04, and it's running 26.04 now. It has an AMD GPU, so it hasn't had update problems.

you forgot the oldest of them all, Debian and the its museum, their repos

I wonder if they are still on an old cert system.

Sure but that's a solved problem as well.

Holy shit this is so stupid I can't defend them anymore 😂😂

"floorp", really? lol thats the name?

At this point... Why aren't Linux users tracking the certificate and notify them?

Give me your money take me seriously without my own investment. floorp today.

HAHAHAHAHA

It really is starting to become pretty laughable.

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=647959

And if they can't handle distributed systems, they're the worst possible choice to maintain a distro - a massive distributed system of PCs

Incompetent managers are worse than incompetent devs

You might as well be asking why people found porn in bushes in the 80s.

Or what ball lightning is.

Or what is zen.

Why isn't it for everyone? How often I see this with, I mean, major actors is head shakingly baffling.

BINGO!

In fact I got a full 5x5 card of bingo because I wrote "Manjaro doesn't renew its cert" in all of the boxes.

I jumped ship after 2 times. Such a shame because I loved the OS but this is the opposite of what I expect a distro to do.

This is literally why I stopped using Manjaro.

I’ve botched 2 Manjaro installs just doing a pacman -Syu while their certs were expired and I ended up with an incomplete upgrade.

Never once had this issue with EndeavorOS.

The name of the web browser being used there, yes.

Debian and shipping broken packages

Doesn't happen with Antergos either.

I mean, I've gotten a NXDomain error ever since they shut down, but at least it's not a certificate expiry!

Not sure why you're getting downvoted, the browser used for the screenshot is sufficiently on topic for a meme sub, especially a FOSS browser for Linux on a Linux meme sub. Floorp is a pretty ridiculous name though.

This came up last time the cert expired iirc.

Tl;dr one of the founders is holding up the infra not allowing any change. According to someone who worked on Manjaro, it was trivially easy to get this fixed, but that single person simply wouldn't approve it. Last I checked they sent the founder an ultimatum: either hand over the project or see the staff walk. I suppose the staff walked.

Yep... Validation of my decision to cachyos after my last drive needed surgery.

Why set a reminder when an expiration will do the same job

I'm also in the club of having a couple of Manjaro installs that now date back a few years to when it was still cool.

Honestly as a distro it works pretty well and my complaints are few. If I had to reinstall I'd take a closer look at CachyOS, EndeavourOS, or even just Arch, but I can't really be bothered to replace something that's working just fine so I'll stick with it for now.

Sad. With FOSS you have to be able to let go.

Bruh what? I went to debian for server because of stability. It only updates like once a decade and still ships broken packages?