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Its crazy to me that no one is saying "if rhe AI is doing all the jobs maybe we can spend more time with the family and children we supposedly love."
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Daftydux lemmy.dbzer0.com Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-01-31
#102 · (edited) Quote Reply

Yeah, but now you've been laid off because the AI "does your job" and food and housing aren't free.

AI now lives in your home and eats your food, too. Problem solved.

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Daftydux lemmy.dbzer0.com Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-01-31
#103 · Quote Reply

yay the whole family can starve together

Dont starve together is a beloved game.

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Daftydux lemmy.dbzer0.com Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-01-31
#104 · Quote Reply

100%. We should be using AI as the catalyst for a new union movement

We should.

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GreenCrunch piefed.blahaj.zone GreenCrunch@piefed.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2025-08-08
#105 · Quote Reply

Buy stock in Homelessness, it's going to be booming!

investing now on polymarket

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the_q piefed.social the_q@piefed.social
Joined: 2026-08-04
#106 · Quote Reply

Better technology frees more time for other tasks. Whether that's work or leisure depends on the individual. Everyone has the same 24 hours a day independent of how you use them. Most people don't just sit and do nothing. To even suggest that things like an electric stove, washing machine, lawnmower or a bicycle aren't saving people real time on tasks they'd have to do either way is ridiculous.

👍🏻

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SkyNTP lemmy.ml SkyNTP@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-06-02
#107 · Quote Reply

Its their reason for being, no?

OP sounds like an insufferable shill spouting "they are just looking for the criminals and illegals" while everyone is being lined up at gunpoint outside of the gas chambers of the concentration camp.

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ikt aussie.zone Eyekaytee@aussie.zone
Joined: 2023-06-17
#108 · Quote Reply

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oh feel free to fill me in instead of just being snarky

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makeshift0546 lemmy.today makeshift0546@lemmy.today
Joined: 2026-05-11
#109 · Quote Reply

I do this every day. I work a lot less and get more done.

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hyperion626 lemmy.world hyperion626@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-08-30
#110 · Quote Reply

That cost labor to buy.
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hyperion626 lemmy.world hyperion626@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-08-30
#111 · Quote Reply

That world is gone.
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weps lemmy.world weps@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-06-22
#112 · Quote Reply

No technology has ever resulted in lighter workloads for the average person. Different, and sometimes less strenuous, but never less time consuming.

not even a neo-luddite. a good old fashioned luddite

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deadalus discuss.tchncs.de deadalus@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2026-09-25
#113 · Quote Reply

Its their reason for being, no?

My guy, if the AI did all the jobs, what are the people supposed to do?

I mean, it'd be amazing for a socialist society, but under capitalism it straight up sucks

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kestrel7_7 lemmy.world kestrel7_7@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-07-31
#114 · (edited) Quote Reply

No technology has ever resulted in lighter workloads for the average person. Different, and sometimes less strenuous, but never less time consuming.

This is a good point, and it's often much longer workhours. People used to have to stop when it got dark, because candles and oil lamps were too expensive, but not with electric lights. Mules refuse to work more than about six hours a day, but trucks will keep going as long as you refuel them.

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Maeve kbin.earth Maeve@kbin.earth
Joined: 2024-06-16
#115 · Quote Reply

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That presumes educational, physical, finances aren't obstacles.

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Maeve kbin.earth Maeve@kbin.earth
Joined: 2024-06-16
#116 · Quote Reply

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can get a lawnmower for a few hours of work

Not everyone has such a magical job.

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GreenKnight23 lemmy.world GreenKnight23@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-09-21
#117 · Quote Reply

If AI is doing all the jobs, then those who used to do those jobs are now unemployed and broke, but at least they can spend more time with their family, outdoors, at the homeless camp.

but at least they can spend more time with their family, outdoors, at the homeless camp.

ended more wholesome than I thought.

what I thought,

but at least they can spend more time with their family, outdoors, in the mass grave after starving to death.

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agamemnonymous sh.itjust.works agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-15
#118 · Quote Reply

Because they still need to earn money for housing, food, medicine, etc.

If we lived in a world where machine productivity was used to meet everyone's basic needs, they would be saying that. But we don't. So machines doing more jobs doesn't free us from work, it just makes finding work more difficult.

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QueenHawlSera piefed.social QueenHawlSera@piefed.social
Joined: 2026-07-14
#119 · Quote Reply

That's because we haven't updated our system to work with AI

AI should in theory automate the mundane so we can focus on art, instead it's being used to automate the art to avoid having to pay for it.

When AI replaces jobs, we don't celebrate not having to do the job because we only have our essentials covered when we work. We have a system that socializes the losses and privatizes the profits.

If we have Universal Basic Income, so we all got paid when AI does labor, people would be able to enjoy their lives free of stress. Unfortunately we live in a society laugh track where socialism is seen as a negative thing, as a way of rewarding the lazy at the expense of the hard working (When really that's what capitalism does)

Unless this perception of socialism can be changed, we will never get Universal Basic Income or Single Payer Healthcare

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kestrel7_7 lemmy.world kestrel7_7@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-07-31
#120 · Quote Reply

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Tbh scythes are pretty fun to use.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DA1qpDmm8CI

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DJKJuicy sh.itjust.works DJKJuicy@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-07-03
#121 · Quote Reply

I think you forgot about money and greed.

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Mouselemming sh.itjust.works Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-07-12
#122 · (edited) Quote Reply

Better technology frees more time for other tasks. Whether that's work or leisure depends on the individual. Everyone has the same 24 hours a day independent of how you use them. Most people don't just sit and do nothing. To even suggest that things like an electric stove, washing machine, lawnmower or a bicycle aren't saving people real time on tasks they'd have to do either way is ridiculous.

In olden times before washing machines people were expected to change into clean (washed) underclothes daily, and an apron got washed when dirty, but their main clothing went a long time between cleanings. Even longer than the clothes on the chair, like months.

Similarly, expectations of manicured pool-table lawns with the advent of lawnmowers.

Better stoves/ovens I'll totally grant you. I have enough trouble adjusting from my old "runs hot" oven to my new "runs cold" oven, I can't imagine trying to bake a cake in a wood or coal oven.

And the horse that preceded the bicycle took more maintenance, not less.

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ayyy sh.itjust.works ayyy@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2024-06-20
#123 · Quote Reply

Because it turns out the capabilities are nowhere near what was promised, and the “AI” isn’t doing anyone’s jobs.

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CheesyFingers piefed.social CheesyFingers@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-06-12
#124 · Quote Reply

You can't afford to.

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brucethemoose lemmy.world brucethemoose@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-03-22
#125 · (edited) Quote Reply

It’s just a tool, another piece of technology to increase efficiency with some liability.

But if such advances aren’t leading to quality of life advances for workers, that’s a societal issue sucking all the gained efficiency away, like how software uses more and more processing to do the same things as computers get faster.

It means the system is fucked up.

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FreshParsnip lemmy.ca FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2025-07-02
#126 · Quote Reply

That will only happen if universal basic income is implemented. Currently, the worry is nobody will be able to afford to live

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Daftydux lemmy.dbzer0.com Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-01-31
#127 · Quote Reply

OP sounds like an insufferable shill spouting "they are just looking for the criminals and illegals" while everyone is being lined up at gunpoint outside of the gas chambers of the concentration camp.

The thing i find most insufferable is your hyperbole.

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Daftydux lemmy.dbzer0.com Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-01-31
#128 · Quote Reply

My guy, if the AI did all the jobs, what are the people supposed to do? I mean, it'd be amazing for a socialist society, but under capitalism it straight up sucks

Spend time with their family... like in the op

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whotookkarl lemmy.dbzer0.com whotookkarl@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-07-12
#129 · Quote Reply

https://harpers.org/archive/1932/10/in-praise-of-idleness/

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Daftydux lemmy.dbzer0.com Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-01-31
#130 · Quote Reply

I think you forgot about money and greed.

Nah

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ulkesh piefed.social ulkesh@piefed.social
Joined: 2026-01-02
#131 · Quote Reply

Ok, we will just do jobs as a function of being alive forever. Glad its settled.

So my question goes unanswered, cool.

Until there is a democratized and efficient method of converting energy to matter which would eliminate hunger and homelessness, living will cost money. If that reality is problematic for you then by all means please try to change it.

I’d just like to not have my family starve after our finances dry up, while I’m spending so much time with them now.

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TheFogan programming.dev TheFogan@programming.dev
Joined: 2023-07-12
#132 · Quote Reply

No it's not. It's a tool used by PEOPLE to help with those things. AI is not creating pictures for other AI to consume yet but I appreciate your enthusiasm

Sounds like someone hasn't been on facebook in the last 4 years. AI posts nonsense, other AIs boost the nonsense.

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Daftydux lemmy.dbzer0.com Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-01-31
#133 · (edited) Quote Reply

https://harpers.org/archive/1932/10/in-praise-of-idleness/

Dont moralize my freedom

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Daftydux lemmy.dbzer0.com Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-01-31
#134 · (edited) Quote Reply

So my question goes unanswered, cool. Until there is a democratized and efficient method of converting energy to matter which would eliminate hunger and homelessness, living will cost money. If that reality is problematic for you then by all means please try to change it. I’d just like to not have my family starve after our finances dry up, while I’m spending so much time with them now.

Your response answers the question. There will always be work to do.

Its just not the work youre doing.

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Pratai piefed.ca Pratai@piefed.ca
Joined: 2026-02-12
#135 · Quote Reply

That’s not it’s purpose. It’s purpose is to generate revenue for its owner. And to bastardize human culture. Nothing more.

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humanspiral lemmy.ca humanspiral@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2024-10-23
#136 · Quote Reply

US system is one of oligarchist and geopolitical supremacism. Under that system, there is no room for crumbs to trickle down to citizenry, and more free time, and easier survivability, would be crumbs that reduce your manufactured hatred towards your fellow man.

The principle of comparative advantage and market access to the most options is not evil. Championing labour supremacism may be a lesser evil than fascist oligarchist militarism of technology, but it's still a distortion that harms everyone who doesn't directly benefit from any follow through on the championing. Unions today cooperate with the oligarchy in order to make life shit for non union members, and their goal is primarily to protect membership jobs more than expanding membership.

Categorically dysfunctional corrupt politics when championing power supremacism of any group as a bandaid for oligarchist, militarist supremacism.

The only solution to achieving your headline is UBI, where whoever is profiting in society pays taxes to give people choice/freedom over their time, including pursuing richness and paying more taxes in the process. UBI is redistribution of power. Not so much wealth. https://naturalfinance.blogspot.com/2026/09/a-global-prosperity-manifesto.html

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Daftydux lemmy.dbzer0.com Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-01-31
#137 · Quote Reply

That’s not it’s purpose. It’s purpose is to generate revenue for its owner. And to bastardize human culture. Nothing more.

That's your purpose.

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Daftydux lemmy.dbzer0.com Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-01-31
#138 · Quote Reply

US system is one of oligarchist and geopolitical supremacism. Under that system, there is no room for crumbs to trickle down to citizenry, and more free time, and easier survivability, would be crumbs that reduce your manufactured hatred towards your fellow man. The principle of comparative advantage and market access to the most options is not evil. Championing labour supremacism may be a less...

Im in

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ReCursing feddit.uk ReCursing@feddit.uk
Joined: 2025-02-04
#139 · Quote Reply

Doodling isn't lazy. You're actively creating art whether it's good or not. AI cannot create art, it can only copy art. If I copy Picasso, should my "art" be respected the same as Picasso's? I am an artist, went to school for it and everything. You wouldn't be able to "prove it" because I actually know art. AI "art" isn't creative, it's just worse mimicking than a person could do.

You're an imbecile. Shut up

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chunes lemmy.world chunes@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-04-08
#140 · Quote Reply

AI is meant to automate the boring stuff so we can make art and write stories. Instead, it's been used to make art and write stories so all we're left with is the boring stuff

It turns out automating art and writing is a lot easier than automating robotics.

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Boiglenoight lemmy.world Boiglenoight@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-18
#141 · Quote Reply

Imagine you’re rich. You’re investing in AI, in robots. You’re not investing in people. Imagine a world without people, but machines that serve without complaining or expecting anything in return.

The rich are dangerous right now.

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jumping redditor [they/them] sh.itjust.works jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-07-30
#142 · Quote Reply

Imagine you’re rich. You’re investing in AI, in robots. You’re not investing in people. Imagine a world without people, but machines that serve without complaining or expecting anything in return. The rich are dangerous right now.

sounds beautiful, what's the catch?

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ulkesh piefed.social ulkesh@piefed.social
Joined: 2026-01-02
#143 · Quote Reply

Your response answers the question. There will always be work to do. Its just not the work youre doing.

You literally said "Ok, we will just do jobs as a function of being alive forever. Glad its settled." as if that somehow was an argument against my original point. You didn't address my original point. And now you're saying "There will always be work to do."

Seems you're arguing with yourself. So I'll bow out and let you get to it. I regret replying to this inane thread. Have fun.

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SparroHawc lemmy.zip SparroHawc@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-06-04
#144 · Quote Reply

sounds beautiful, what's the catch?

The catch is that you won't be one of the few people that are still around.

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LapGoat pawb.social LapGoat@pawb.social
Joined: 2023-06-12
#145 · Quote Reply

The catch is that you won't be one of the few people that are still around.

but I was imagining I was rich in the other comment.

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wonderingwanderer sopuli.xyz wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2025-12-31
#146 · Quote Reply

In reply to an earlier post

All things that save time at home, not at work.

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wonderingwanderer sopuli.xyz wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2025-12-31
#147 · Quote Reply

That would require that it come with UBI, which... seems doubtful at best...

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Grimy lemmy.world Grimy@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-08-27
#148 · Quote Reply

but I was imagining I was rich in the other comment.

Ive been poor my whole life so I'm fairly certain it's almost my turn to be a billionaire.

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Grimy lemmy.world Grimy@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-08-27
#149 · Quote Reply

That would require that it come with UBI, which... seems doubtful at best...

I don't even think UBI is a solution. It's basically a cast system with extra steps. What we need is violent nationalization of any company with more than a handful of employees. We won't get what we need though.

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Boiglenoight lemmy.world Boiglenoight@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-18
#150 · Quote Reply

sounds beautiful, what's the catch?

You’re not rich.

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plantfanatic sh.itjust.works plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-05-25
#151 · (edited) Quote Reply

All things that save time at home, not at work.

Do people not do laundry for work? Mow lawns? Drive? Anything you could use for personal use can also help with work… what about a restaurant? No washing machines there apparently….

Do you have any specific examples that are solely “home saving” pieces of technology? Or do other peoples jobs not exist past your desk?

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