What I really want to know: Is Abortionado pronounced like afficianado, and they are an expert in abortions? Or is it like Tornado, and they are a tornado of abortions?

Nathan, is that you?

PS: To anyone who hasn't yet, I can highly recommend watching the TV show Nathan for you

Who leaves their infant in an IVF clinic? If I walk out with the flask they’ll suspect me of arson. If I walk out with the baby, who knows. Call 911 and let the fire fighters save the rest of the buildings occupants.

well if embryos can be frozen for longer time, perhaps they can be the first humans to travel to other galaxies?

Bible says life begins at first breath.

It would seem turning the other cheek isn't part of your religion.

I assumed the first one before reading your comment, probably because I am too feeble to imagine an abortion tornado on my own.

Like I tell a friend of mine who was premature: Do you want to celebrate your birthday today or in a couple months when you should have been born?

How fucked up is it to be of legal age, and have no benefits, as a Baby, because your life was literally put on hold while frozen.

The baby can legit be told to get a job, diagnosed with neurodevelopmental disorders, prescribed adult drugs.

Or am I reading this wrong?

It's got what babies crave

Will I sell booze to this baby? Absolutely.

Will I extend this baby booze on credit? Not in this economy.

What's the benefit of sending babies to Mars? That's just a very expensive recipe for dead babies.

For real though, I'd save a baby (or adult) seal before the 100 human embryos.

All those legal obligations start at date of birth. I think that was the point of the post.

Freezing an adult would be murder.

If one one-month old baby and 100 embryos spontaneously combusted I'd assume the world was ending in flames. In that case, where humanity is on the line, I would save the embryos because we need to repopulate the earth after the fires extinguished. I'd probably trip though with the case and break all the embryos.

I don't believe that but I still would

TIL Mars is in another galaxy

Conceptually

icwydt

As a progressive with libertarian tendencies, I would add that alcoholic babies should also have access to rehab if they want it.

I am pro-choice & think that life begins at birth, but this argument is fallacious. Even if you believed that life begins at conception, you could coherently claim that this baby is physically still a baby and cannot safely take alcohol

not if they can be un-frozen

This hypothetical is great as it forces them to admit born babies are more important than embryos, but it doesn't prove embryos are not alive

Trees are alive without a brain. I think what you mean here is sentience

On a separate note I think people like abortianado are just as bad as prolife tards because they think they are educated but they’re not.

Anyone who is “pro-abortion” falls in that category. Nobody wants an abortion. They simply want access to medical care. Like most things it boils down to education. If we actually took sex ed seriously in the US and provided adequate access to birth control for all sexes we’d have less abortions.

it's not about them being alive; embryos are alive, that's not even disputed. it's about whether the life is a person. if you think the babies are more important you're already conceding the embryos don't have personhood, or at least not to the degree that babies do.

either case they shouldn't have the same rights as actual people. if you think an embryo is a person then you can't choose the couple babies over so many people. or if you do it's still going to be fun hearing you try to justify it without conceding.

well, there's also questions about whether you could have a species that is entirely made of robots, that could do spaceflight, and kinda incubate humans in a lab when it arrives.

my personal guess is that it's not possible to have a species entirely made of robots because they cannot reproduce reliably. so it would go extinct after a while. but that's just my guess; some people believe that robots can indeed build more of themselves, i.e. completely reproduce.

Ooh yeah makes sense

Right, that's not a thing. So murder.

Omg you guys are taking me back. Fucking loved this guy. Best bit ever

"Conceptually" makes a lot of heavy lifting, along with the fictional examples like Captain America

Is Dave Lister an actual real life person? Or is it a fictional character like the others? Otherwise, they can't be taken as examples. That's like saying that oh yeah, a toddler can totally lift a car no problem.... see Superman.

Nah man, religion kills people, still, today. It deserves a bit of derision.

Safely? No.

Legally though?

Can I just leave them both?

You are absolutely correct, we were supposed to go to Alpha Centauri! I have course corrected, and have confirmed that we are now on the correct trajectory.

The new estimated time of arrival is: 1.1E+4932 years. 🚀👨‍🚀

Jokes aside, would they need to reproduce? Or just not break for a long time

And what about hilariously? When did we start leaving that one out?

Like I always say, abortionado, abortionado 🤷‍♂️

Hey 30 years old is 30 years old. Give that baby a bottle of Jack Daniels.

He’s an absolute smeghead.

But once again, the point was not religion, it was a stance on abortion.

Kind of frustrating that the moderator I'm assuming removed my remarks, but still.

Age for legal purposes generally begins counting at birth, even for people whose cells have been active, and whose organs and such have been growing and maturing for longer than that.

If you could put a baby into suspended animation of some form, and return it to usual biological function 25 years later, there might be a real legal issue. As it stands, I don't see it.

puts on devil's advocate hat

No, because liquor laws don't care about when life began. They care about date of birth. Life beginning at conception does not erase date of birth as a valid type of data.

removes hat because I'm not pro-life

We should not rely on "pro-lifers are too stupid to understand how to refute this" when deciding our views.

Don't tell me what to let my baby do. Now excuse me but I'm taking little Babythan to the dog fights.

I dunno, how big a baby?

That's okay I can help you imagine.

It's very gooey.