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Wren lemmy.today Wren@lemmy.today
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A student pilot successfully landed a plane by herself after her instructor jumped to his death mid-flight.

She said her instructor told her "You know what to do" before leaping from the aircraft.

The article shows a picture of the instructor next to an image of a small single engine cessna.

Comment reads: You could literally land a plane by yourself after your instructor jumps to his death mid-flight and they'd still use a picture of a man.

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velma sh.itjust.works velma@sh.itjust.works
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They've got a point. I'd much rather have seen this heroic student pilot's portrait!

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lemonhead2 lemmy.world lemonhead2@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-01-04
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the media loves stories about successful men, and pictures of attractive women.

maybe she didn't want to be named/photographed

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SpaceNoodle lemmy.world SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world
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#4 · Quote Reply

They've got a point. I'd much rather have seen this heroic student pilot's portrait!
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Wren lemmy.today Wren@lemmy.today
Joined: 2025-11-04
#5 · Quote Reply

the media loves stories about successful men, and pictures of attractive women. maybe she didn't want to be named/photographed

Have you read the rules for this community?

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Angryhumanoid fedinsfw.app Angryhumanoid@fedinsfw.app
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Wren lemmy.today Wren@lemmy.today
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#7 · Quote Reply

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Do you know which community you're posting in?

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velma sh.itjust.works velma@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2026-05-07
#8 · Quote Reply

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Did you take a look at the rules for this community by chance?

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Wren lemmy.today Wren@lemmy.today
Joined: 2025-11-04
#9 · (edited) Quote Reply

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Goes ahead to dampen the legit argument about systemic bias and patterns in representation being made here...

We know there are legitimate reaons not to show someone's photo or reveal their name. It's a joke about how the media represents women - or rather that it doesn't.

By the way, have you read the rules here?

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velma sh.itjust.works velma@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2026-05-07
#10 · Quote Reply

the media loves stories about successful men, and pictures of attractive women. maybe she didn't want to be named/photographed

Yes and in this story about a successful woman, they still centered the man.

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Angryhumanoid fedinsfw.app Angryhumanoid@fedinsfw.app
Joined: 2026-02-21
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Goes ahead to dampen the legit argument about systemic bias and patterns in representation being made here... We know there are legitimate reaons not to show someone's photo or reveal their name. It's a joke about how the media represents women - or rather that it doesn't. By the way, have you read the rules here?
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terranoid lemmy.cafe terranoid@lemmy.cafe
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#12 · (edited) Quote Reply

I mean, why should i be surprised someone who's been training to fly was able to land a plane? That's not news. Seems more misogynistic to be surprised a woman could land the plane.

Some crazy fuck committing suicide by jumping out like that very much is news though lol

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velma sh.itjust.works velma@sh.itjust.works
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#13 · Quote Reply

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The post was a kickstarter to a larger conversation

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Wren lemmy.today Wren@lemmy.today
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#14 · Quote Reply

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I thought we were having a discussion about the argument being made, not being pedantic.

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LadyButterfly she/her Moderator LadyButterfly@piefed.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2025-06-10
#15 · Quote Reply

Ha! Yep. All about the man, unless possibly the woman is very hot/slutty and/or the man is a member of a subjagated group.

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Angryhumanoid fedinsfw.app Angryhumanoid@fedinsfw.app
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#16 · Quote Reply

I thought we were having a discussion about the argument being made, not being pedantic.
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Wren lemmy.today Wren@lemmy.today
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#17 · Quote Reply

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If you don't want to be questioned, check the sidebar before posting.

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Angryhumanoid fedinsfw.app Angryhumanoid@fedinsfw.app
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#18 · Quote Reply

The post was a kickstarter to a larger conversation
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Angryhumanoid fedinsfw.app Angryhumanoid@fedinsfw.app
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#19 · Quote Reply

If you don't want to be questioned, check the sidebar before posting.
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velma sh.itjust.works velma@sh.itjust.works
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#20 · (edited) Quote Reply

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This is a post in a women's group about a common trope that the media engages in when they're covering a story about women.

We don't actually need men to mansplain this to us.

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Wren lemmy.today Wren@lemmy.today
Joined: 2025-11-04
#21 · Quote Reply

I mean, why should i be surprised someone who's been training to fly was able to land a plane? That's not news. Seems more misogynistic to be surprised a woman could land the plane. Some crazy fuck committing suicide by jumping out like that very much is news though lol

More that she was a student who landed a plane after her instructor literally jumped out and died. I get that landing a little cesna like that isn't hard, but it's a hell of an stressfull circumstance.

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Gladaed feddit.org Gladaed@feddit.org
Joined: 2024-06-26
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the media loves stories about successful men, and pictures of attractive women. maybe she didn't want to be named/photographed

This barely relates to the article and the obvious problem.

Sure, they provided a generic pilot image that may have been ai generated and some random small plane. But doing so communicates stereotypes and does not communicate anything of value. Hence they shouldn't have used this opportunity to push their stereotypes.

Also, this is a horror story and I would have rather not read it. But that's another issue. And I didn't notice the gender in writing but only skimmed the tweet. Hence harm was done. This isnt a story about empowerment after all but considers a pilot who is a woman a regular and usual occurrence. Or at least I did while reading.

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Wren lemmy.today Wren@lemmy.today
Joined: 2025-11-04
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Good this this wasn't misleading if you understand context.

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velma sh.itjust.works velma@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2026-05-07
#24 · Quote Reply

I mean, why should i be surprised someone who's been training to fly was able to land a plane? That's not news. Seems more misogynistic to be surprised a woman could land the plane. Some crazy fuck committing suicide by jumping out like that very much is news though lol

Some crazy fuck committing suicide by jumping out like that very much is news though

Oftentimes the media won't report on suicides in order to not inspire copycats.

why should i be surprised someone who’s been training to fly was able to land a plane?

Because it could have ended very badly if they weren't trained enough.

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velma sh.itjust.works velma@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2026-05-07
#25 · Quote Reply

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Go back to gooning over Zendaya and leave us to this conversation.

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Gladaed feddit.org Gladaed@feddit.org
Joined: 2024-06-26
#26 · Quote Reply

Might have also been an image to portrait the dip shit, but trusting flight instructor. They do have a look of confidence in the situation and I cannot imagine a being a confident student in this situation. But fuck that. They didn't mean that. And doing such an act is bad. Don't glorify them.

To be fair, I strongly suspect this story to be fabricated.

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Gladaed feddit.org Gladaed@feddit.org
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Load bearing /s
This ain't r/memes. And that's almost chan grade humor. I ewwed and then chuckled. But could have very well done without the reminder to hainousness.

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velma sh.itjust.works velma@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2026-05-07
#28 · (edited) Quote Reply

This barely relates to the article and the obvious problem. Sure, they provided a generic pilot image that may have been ai generated and some random small plane. But doing so communicates stereotypes and does not communicate anything of value. Hence they shouldn't have used this opportunity to push their stereotypes. Also, this is a horror story and I would have rather not read it. But that's ...

There are no less than 5 references to her gender in the first tweet. Not disagreeing with you, but it's difficult to miss that the pilot was a woman.

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Gladaed feddit.org Gladaed@feddit.org
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#29 · (edited) Quote Reply

There are no less than 5 references to her gender in the first tweet. Not disagreeing with you, but it's difficult to miss that the pilot was a woman.

Their pronouns and placed at expected locations in the sentence. Hence I didn't read them. I am a weird one when it comes to that. You really need to point that out explicitly if you want me to get that.

Edit: also paying attention to tbe gender of pronouns in German is somewhat pointless since words can influence the Grammatic gender anyway. There is no they them after all.

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Angryhumanoid fedinsfw.app Angryhumanoid@fedinsfw.app
Joined: 2026-02-21
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#30 · Quote Reply

Go back to gooning over Zendaya and leave us to this conversation.
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velma sh.itjust.works velma@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2026-05-07
#31 · Quote Reply

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I don't want to hear your thoughts on anything in this community after your tantrum here.

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Banana sh.itjust.works Banana@sh.itjust.works
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#32 · Quote Reply

the media loves stories about successful men, and pictures of attractive women. maybe she didn't want to be named/photographed

They could've just showed a picture of the plane.

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Banana sh.itjust.works Banana@sh.itjust.works
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#33 · Quote Reply

More that she was a student who landed a plane after her instructor literally jumped out and died. I get that landing a little cesna like that isn't hard, but it's a hell of an stressfull circumstance.

Landing a plane while in shock is no simple feat

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Angryhumanoid fedinsfw.app Angryhumanoid@fedinsfw.app
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I don't want to hear your thoughts on anything in this community after your tantrum here.
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velma sh.itjust.works velma@sh.itjust.works
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#35 · (edited) Quote Reply

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What does it do for you to be condescending to women in a women's only group? Does it give you a thrill knowing we don't want to listen to you but you're posting anyway? Does it make you feel manly to ignore women's stated wishes and do what you want regardless?

Are you here just to add to your gooning stash of women you like to fap to without consent?

Posting a picture of a dead woman to jack off to is distasteful, but I bet you know that, don't you?

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Angryhumanoid fedinsfw.app Angryhumanoid@fedinsfw.app
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What does it do for you to be condescending to women in a women's only group? Does it give you a thrill knowing we don't want to listen to you but you're posting anyway? Does it make you feel manly to ignore women's stated wishes and do what you want regardless? Are you here just to add to your gooning stash of women you like to fap to without consent? Posting a picture of a dead woman to jack ...
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velma sh.itjust.works velma@sh.itjust.works
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#37 · Quote Reply

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I’ll be the bigger person and stop engaging, goodbye.

Fucking finally, thank you.

making me sound like an asshole, which I hardly need help in doing.

Clearly.

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placebo lemmy.zip placebo@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-12-23
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#38 · (edited) Quote Reply

It is expected for a trained pilot (she had a PPL) to land a plane. Suicide by jumping from a plane is the story.

What a silly idea to turn this into a story about gender.

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velma sh.itjust.works velma@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2026-05-07
#39 · Quote Reply

It is expected for a trained pilot (she had a PPL) to land a plane. Suicide by jumping from a plane is the story. What a silly idea to turn this into a story about gender.

It's well documented that the media uses biases when covering stories about women. That's the real topic here.

Have you read the rules in the sidebar?

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velma sh.itjust.works velma@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2026-05-07
#40 · (edited) Quote Reply

It is expected for a trained pilot (she had a PPL) to land a plane. Suicide by jumping from a plane is the story. What a silly idea to turn this into a story about gender.

Although there has been a steady increase in the number of women professionals over the past 20 years, most mainstream press coverage continues to rely on men as experts in the fields of business, politics and economics. Women in the news are spoken about with language that has sexist connotations and are more likely to be featured in stories about accidents, natural disasters or domestic violence than in stories about their professional abilities or expertise.

...gender representation in the media appears to be frequently skewed toward men’s representation and prominently features gender stereotypes. On a global scale, news coverage appears to mostly feature men, especially when considering representation as expert voices, where women are still underrepresented (24%) despite a rise in coverage in the last 5 years

Those are two different sources, by the way. Wouldn't want to confuse you.

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nullspace lemmy.world nullspace@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-06-05
#41 · Quote Reply

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lmao

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Wren lemmy.today Wren@lemmy.today
Joined: 2025-11-04
#42 · Quote Reply

I’ll be the bigger person and stop engaging, goodbye. Fucking finally, thank you. making me sound like an asshole, which I hardly need help in doing. Clearly.

You bring up something publicly posted in public, "that's character assassination!"

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velma sh.itjust.works velma@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2026-05-07
#43 · Quote Reply

It is expected for a trained pilot (she had a PPL) to land a plane. Suicide by jumping from a plane is the story. What a silly idea to turn this into a story about gender.

What does it do for you guys to come in here and scold us for what topics we want to talk about?

Why does it bother you?

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velma sh.itjust.works velma@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2026-05-07
#44 · Quote Reply

You bring up something publicly posted in public, "that's character assassination!"

But since you asked I think a reasonable person would conclude your responses were significantly more escalatory than mine.

He even admitted that he was purposefully escalating.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander!

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Wren lemmy.today Wren@lemmy.today
Joined: 2025-11-04
#45 · Quote Reply

But since you asked I think a reasonable person would conclude your responses were significantly more escalatory than mine. He even admitted that he was purposefully escalating. What's good for the goose is good for the gander!

How dare anyone yell at him when he's being an obnoxious little fuck. How precious.

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velma sh.itjust.works velma@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2026-05-07
#46 · Quote Reply

How dare anyone yell at him when he's being an obnoxious little fuck. How precious.

I never have any qualms pulling up their post history to see the kind of user they are.

If they're embarrassed by people seeing what they fap to, they should keep their porn account separate.

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placebo lemmy.zip placebo@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-12-23
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#47 · Quote Reply

What does it do for you guys to come in here and scold us for what topics we want to talk about? Why does it bother you?

It’s an online forum where people post and discuss things. That’s how it works.

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velma sh.itjust.works velma@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2026-05-07
#48 · (edited) Quote Reply

It’s an online forum where people post and discuss things. That’s how it works.

You're not discussing things, you're complaining that we made it about gender. In a women's only community.

Is it really so shocking that one will find gender-based discussions in a community that is gender-based?

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prettybunnys piefed.social prettybunnys@piefed.social
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#49 · Quote Reply

It’s the guy that jumped, and the plane, and the student doesn’t want her picture shown.

It’s a funny meme otherwise, I guess, but she’s not pictured because she asked not to be. 🤷‍♀️

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velma sh.itjust.works velma@sh.itjust.works
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#50 · Quote Reply

It’s the guy that jumped, and the plane, and the student doesn’t want her picture shown. It’s a funny meme otherwise, I guess, but she’s not pictured because she asked not to be. 🤷‍♀️

Yeah I think Wren was just kickstarting a conversation about how media covers women. Even in this story where the woman is the "hero", it is centering the man who committed suicide. Which is a topic they don't usually cover anyway due to copycat issues.

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Wren lemmy.today Wren@lemmy.today
Joined: 2025-11-04
#51 · Quote Reply

It’s the guy that jumped, and the plane, and the student doesn’t want her picture shown. It’s a funny meme otherwise, I guess, but she’s not pictured because she asked not to be. 🤷‍♀️

It's weird they showed the dude's picture, if anything. But it's about the context of how the media covers women.

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