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Wren
lemmy.today
Wren@lemmy.today Joined: 2025-11-04 |
A student pilot successfully landed a plane by herself after her instructor jumped to his death mid-flight. She said her instructor told her "You know what to do" before leaping from the aircraft. The article shows a picture of the instructor next to an image of a small single engine cessna. Comment reads: You could literally land a plane by yourself after your instructor jumps to his death mid-flight and they'd still use a picture of a man. |
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velma
sh.itjust.works
velma@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2026-05-07 |
They've got a point. I'd much rather have seen this heroic student pilot's portrait! |
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lemonhead2
lemmy.world
lemonhead2@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-01-04 |
the media loves stories about successful men, and pictures of attractive women. maybe she didn't want to be named/photographed |
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SpaceNoodle
lemmy.world
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-14 |
They've got a point. I'd much rather have seen this heroic student pilot's portrait!
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Wren
lemmy.today
Wren@lemmy.today Joined: 2025-11-04 |
the media loves stories about successful men, and pictures of attractive women. maybe she didn't want to be named/photographed
Have you read the rules for this community? |
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Angryhumanoid
fedinsfw.app
Angryhumanoid@fedinsfw.app Joined: 2026-02-21 Banned |
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Wren
lemmy.today
Wren@lemmy.today Joined: 2025-11-04 |
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Do you know which community you're posting in? |
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velma
sh.itjust.works
velma@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2026-05-07 |
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Did you take a look at the rules for this community by chance? |
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Wren
lemmy.today
Wren@lemmy.today Joined: 2025-11-04 |
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Goes ahead to dampen the legit argument about systemic bias and patterns in representation being made here... We know there are legitimate reaons not to show someone's photo or reveal their name. It's a joke about how the media represents women - or rather that it doesn't. By the way, have you read the rules here? |
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velma
sh.itjust.works
velma@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2026-05-07 |
the media loves stories about successful men, and pictures of attractive women. maybe she didn't want to be named/photographed
Yes and in this story about a successful woman, they still centered the man. |
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Angryhumanoid
fedinsfw.app
Angryhumanoid@fedinsfw.app Joined: 2026-02-21 Banned |
Goes ahead to dampen the legit argument about systemic bias and patterns in representation being made here... We know there are legitimate reaons not to show someone's photo or reveal their name. It's a joke about how the media represents women - or rather that it doesn't. By the way, have you read the rules here?
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terranoid
lemmy.cafe
terranoid@lemmy.cafe Joined: 2026-05-08 |
I mean, why should i be surprised someone who's been training to fly was able to land a plane? That's not news. Seems more misogynistic to be surprised a woman could land the plane. Some crazy fuck committing suicide by jumping out like that very much is news though lol |
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velma
sh.itjust.works
velma@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2026-05-07 |
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The post was a kickstarter to a larger conversation |
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Wren
lemmy.today
Wren@lemmy.today Joined: 2025-11-04 |
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I thought we were having a discussion about the argument being made, not being pedantic. |
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LadyButterfly she/her
Moderator
LadyButterfly@piefed.blahaj.zoneJoined: 2025-06-10 |
Ha! Yep. All about the man, unless possibly the woman is very hot/slutty and/or the man is a member of a subjagated group. |
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Angryhumanoid
fedinsfw.app
Angryhumanoid@fedinsfw.app Joined: 2026-02-21 Banned |
I thought we were having a discussion about the argument being made, not being pedantic.
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Wren
lemmy.today
Wren@lemmy.today Joined: 2025-11-04 |
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If you don't want to be questioned, check the sidebar before posting. |
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Angryhumanoid
fedinsfw.app
Angryhumanoid@fedinsfw.app Joined: 2026-02-21 Banned |
The post was a kickstarter to a larger conversation
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Angryhumanoid
fedinsfw.app
Angryhumanoid@fedinsfw.app Joined: 2026-02-21 Banned |
If you don't want to be questioned, check the sidebar before posting.
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velma
sh.itjust.works
velma@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2026-05-07 |
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This is a post in a women's group about a common trope that the media engages in when they're covering a story about women. We don't actually need men to mansplain this to us. |
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Wren
lemmy.today
Wren@lemmy.today Joined: 2025-11-04 |
I mean, why should i be surprised someone who's been training to fly was able to land a plane? That's not news. Seems more misogynistic to be surprised a woman could land the plane. Some crazy fuck committing suicide by jumping out like that very much is news though lol
More that she was a student who landed a plane after her instructor literally jumped out and died. I get that landing a little cesna like that isn't hard, but it's a hell of an stressfull circumstance. |
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Gladaed
feddit.org
Gladaed@feddit.orgJoined: 2024-06-26 |
the media loves stories about successful men, and pictures of attractive women. maybe she didn't want to be named/photographed
This barely relates to the article and the obvious problem. Sure, they provided a generic pilot image that may have been ai generated and some random small plane. But doing so communicates stereotypes and does not communicate anything of value. Hence they shouldn't have used this opportunity to push their stereotypes. Also, this is a horror story and I would have rather not read it. But that's another issue. And I didn't notice the gender in writing but only skimmed the tweet. Hence harm was done. This isnt a story about empowerment after all but considers a pilot who is a woman a regular and usual occurrence. Or at least I did while reading. |
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Wren
lemmy.today
Wren@lemmy.today Joined: 2025-11-04 |
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Good this this wasn't misleading if you understand context. |
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velma
sh.itjust.works
velma@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2026-05-07 |
I mean, why should i be surprised someone who's been training to fly was able to land a plane? That's not news. Seems more misogynistic to be surprised a woman could land the plane. Some crazy fuck committing suicide by jumping out like that very much is news though lol
Oftentimes the media won't report on suicides in order to not inspire copycats.
Because it could have ended very badly if they weren't trained enough. |
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velma
sh.itjust.works
velma@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2026-05-07 |
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Go back to gooning over Zendaya and leave us to this conversation. |
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Gladaed
feddit.org
Gladaed@feddit.orgJoined: 2024-06-26 |
Might have also been an image to portrait the dip shit, but trusting flight instructor. They do have a look of confidence in the situation and I cannot imagine a being a confident student in this situation. But fuck that. They didn't mean that. And doing such an act is bad. Don't glorify them. To be fair, I strongly suspect this story to be fabricated. |
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Gladaed
feddit.org
Gladaed@feddit.orgJoined: 2024-06-26 |
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Load bearing /s |
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velma
sh.itjust.works
velma@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2026-05-07 |
This barely relates to the article and the obvious problem. Sure, they provided a generic pilot image that may have been ai generated and some random small plane. But doing so communicates stereotypes and does not communicate anything of value. Hence they shouldn't have used this opportunity to push their stereotypes. Also, this is a horror story and I would have rather not read it. But that's ...
There are no less than 5 references to her gender in the first tweet. Not disagreeing with you, but it's difficult to miss that the pilot was a woman. |
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Gladaed
feddit.org
Gladaed@feddit.orgJoined: 2024-06-26 |
There are no less than 5 references to her gender in the first tweet. Not disagreeing with you, but it's difficult to miss that the pilot was a woman.
Their pronouns and placed at expected locations in the sentence. Hence I didn't read them. I am a weird one when it comes to that. You really need to point that out explicitly if you want me to get that. Edit: also paying attention to tbe gender of pronouns in German is somewhat pointless since words can influence the Grammatic gender anyway. There is no they them after all. |
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Angryhumanoid
fedinsfw.app
Angryhumanoid@fedinsfw.app Joined: 2026-02-21 Banned |
Go back to gooning over Zendaya and leave us to this conversation.
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velma
sh.itjust.works
velma@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2026-05-07 |
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I don't want to hear your thoughts on anything in this community after your tantrum here. |
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Banana
sh.itjust.works
Banana@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2023-06-14 |
the media loves stories about successful men, and pictures of attractive women. maybe she didn't want to be named/photographed
They could've just showed a picture of the plane. |
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Banana
sh.itjust.works
Banana@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2023-06-14 |
More that she was a student who landed a plane after her instructor literally jumped out and died. I get that landing a little cesna like that isn't hard, but it's a hell of an stressfull circumstance.
Landing a plane while in shock is no simple feat |
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Angryhumanoid
fedinsfw.app
Angryhumanoid@fedinsfw.app Joined: 2026-02-21 Banned |
I don't want to hear your thoughts on anything in this community after your tantrum here.
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velma
sh.itjust.works
velma@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2026-05-07 |
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What does it do for you to be condescending to women in a women's only group? Does it give you a thrill knowing we don't want to listen to you but you're posting anyway? Does it make you feel manly to ignore women's stated wishes and do what you want regardless? Are you here just to add to your gooning stash of women you like to fap to without consent? Posting a picture of a dead woman to jack off to is distasteful, but I bet you know that, don't you? |
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Angryhumanoid
fedinsfw.app
Angryhumanoid@fedinsfw.app Joined: 2026-02-21 Banned |
What does it do for you to be condescending to women in a women's only group? Does it give you a thrill knowing we don't want to listen to you but you're posting anyway? Does it make you feel manly to ignore women's stated wishes and do what you want regardless? Are you here just to add to your gooning stash of women you like to fap to without consent? Posting a picture of a dead woman to jack ...
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velma
sh.itjust.works
velma@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2026-05-07 |
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Fucking finally, thank you.
Clearly. |
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placebo
lemmy.zip
placebo@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-12-23 Banned |
It is expected for a trained pilot (she had a PPL) to land a plane. Suicide by jumping from a plane is the story. What a silly idea to turn this into a story about gender. |
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velma
sh.itjust.works
velma@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2026-05-07 |
It is expected for a trained pilot (she had a PPL) to land a plane. Suicide by jumping from a plane is the story. What a silly idea to turn this into a story about gender.
It's well documented that the media uses biases when covering stories about women. That's the real topic here. Have you read the rules in the sidebar? |
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velma
sh.itjust.works
velma@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2026-05-07 |
It is expected for a trained pilot (she had a PPL) to land a plane. Suicide by jumping from a plane is the story. What a silly idea to turn this into a story about gender.
Those are two different sources, by the way. Wouldn't want to confuse you. |
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nullspace
lemmy.world
nullspace@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-06-05 |
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lmao |
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Wren
lemmy.today
Wren@lemmy.today Joined: 2025-11-04 |
I’ll be the bigger person and stop engaging, goodbye. Fucking finally, thank you. making me sound like an asshole, which I hardly need help in doing. Clearly.
You bring up something publicly posted in public, "that's character assassination!" |
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velma
sh.itjust.works
velma@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2026-05-07 |
It is expected for a trained pilot (she had a PPL) to land a plane. Suicide by jumping from a plane is the story. What a silly idea to turn this into a story about gender.
What does it do for you guys to come in here and scold us for what topics we want to talk about? Why does it bother you? |
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velma
sh.itjust.works
velma@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2026-05-07 |
You bring up something publicly posted in public, "that's character assassination!"
He even admitted that he was purposefully escalating. What's good for the goose is good for the gander! |
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Wren
lemmy.today
Wren@lemmy.today Joined: 2025-11-04 |
But since you asked I think a reasonable person would conclude your responses were significantly more escalatory than mine. He even admitted that he was purposefully escalating. What's good for the goose is good for the gander!
How dare anyone yell at him when he's being an obnoxious little fuck. How precious. |
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velma
sh.itjust.works
velma@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2026-05-07 |
How dare anyone yell at him when he's being an obnoxious little fuck. How precious.
I never have any qualms pulling up their post history to see the kind of user they are. If they're embarrassed by people seeing what they fap to, they should keep their porn account separate. |
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placebo
lemmy.zip
placebo@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-12-23 Banned |
What does it do for you guys to come in here and scold us for what topics we want to talk about? Why does it bother you?
It’s an online forum where people post and discuss things. That’s how it works. |
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velma
sh.itjust.works
velma@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2026-05-07 |
It’s an online forum where people post and discuss things. That’s how it works.
You're not discussing things, you're complaining that we made it about gender. In a women's only community. Is it really so shocking that one will find gender-based discussions in a community that is gender-based? |
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prettybunnys
piefed.social
prettybunnys@piefed.social Joined: 2025-06-10 |
It’s the guy that jumped, and the plane, and the student doesn’t want her picture shown. It’s a funny meme otherwise, I guess, but she’s not pictured because she asked not to be. 🤷♀️ |
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velma
sh.itjust.works
velma@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2026-05-07 |
It’s the guy that jumped, and the plane, and the student doesn’t want her picture shown. It’s a funny meme otherwise, I guess, but she’s not pictured because she asked not to be. 🤷♀️
Yeah I think Wren was just kickstarting a conversation about how media covers women. Even in this story where the woman is the "hero", it is centering the man who committed suicide. Which is a topic they don't usually cover anyway due to copycat issues. |
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Wren
lemmy.today
Wren@lemmy.today Joined: 2025-11-04 |
It’s the guy that jumped, and the plane, and the student doesn’t want her picture shown. It’s a funny meme otherwise, I guess, but she’s not pictured because she asked not to be. 🤷♀️
It's weird they showed the dude's picture, if anything. But it's about the context of how the media covers women. |
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