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The Picard Maneuver lemmy.world The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world
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onipa feddit.org onipa@feddit.org
Joined: 2025-07-22
#2 · Quote Reply

It’s funny but it’s not true

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AreaKode riskeratspizza.com areakode@riskeratspizza.com
Joined: 2026-01-08
#3 · Quote Reply

It’s funny but it’s not true

Well, not with 1. But collect a few million transistors,

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axh lemmy.world axh@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-13
#4 · Quote Reply

It’s funny but it’s not true

But could it run doom?!

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WFH lemmy.zip Wfh@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-06-07
#5 · Quote Reply

It’s funny but it’s not true

You're right. A lightbulb plugged into a potato is the real minimum system requirement.

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mkwt lemmy.world mkwt@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-18
#6 · Quote Reply

It’s funny but it’s not true

Linux requires at least 32 bit machine words, and it always has. Linux was originally written for Intel 80386.

Linux requires a hardware MMU to support virtual memory. There are patches that can make a no-MMU kernel, but it drastically changes the experience to do so.

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deepfryerdan sh.itjust.works _fryerDan@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2026-03-10
#7 · Quote Reply

Hey you

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James R Kirk startrek.website Kirk@startrek.website
Joined: 2025-03-01
#8 · Quote Reply

When someone complains about flatpak being bloated I always assume this is what their system is.

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grue lemmy.world grue@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-13
#9 · (edited) Quote Reply

It’s funny but it’s not true

Plot twist: it's actually a whole SoC packaged to look like a single transistor, with the pins being for +V, ground, and a 1-Wire data bus.

I don't know that such a thing exists, but these days I bet it could.

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ChaoticNeutralCzech feddit.org ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org
Joined: 2024-06-23
#10 · Quote Reply

Does not compute. A Turing machine (with limited tape so it can be built for real) does though, whether transistorized or not.

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antsu discuss.tchncs.de antsu@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2025-09-05
#11 · Quote Reply

It’s funny but it’s not true

Not with that attitude!

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Aceticon lemmy.dbzer0.com Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2024-12-06
#12 · (edited) Quote Reply

Not quite just a transistor but maybe something like this (an SOC with 32MB ram which costs about $5 in bulk) though it does require quite a bit of additional electronics to work.

Also somebody also made an embedded Linux for the ESP32-S3 (which is even cheaper and doesn't require anywhere as much auxiliary electronics).

PS: Yeah, I got the joke. Just pointing out that the reality itself is quite impressive.

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2fm lemmy.world 2fm@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-11-29
#13 · Quote Reply

(Optional)

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kibblebits quokk.au kibblebits@quokk.au
Joined: 2026-05-19
#14 · Quote Reply

You can make it go faster by blowing on it.

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kibblebits quokk.au kibblebits@quokk.au
Joined: 2026-05-19
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When someone complains about flatpak being bloated I always assume this is what their system is.

I had an old Chromebook I converted to a Linux machine. It only had 16gb of disk space. It filled up surprisingly fast.

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BeigeAgenda lemmy.ca BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-06-28
#16 · Quote Reply

Not quite just a transistor but maybe something like this (an SOC with 32MB ram which costs about $5 in bulk) though it does require quite a bit of additional electronics to work. Also somebody also made an embedded Linux for the ESP32-S3 (which is even cheaper and doesn't require anywhere as much auxiliary electronics). PS: Yeah, I got the joke. Just pointing out that the reality itself is qui...

88 pins, that's way too many!

Is there a 32 pin DIP-32 chip that can run Linux?

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StabbingSky lemmy.zip StabbingSky@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2026-04-30
#17 · Quote Reply

Not quite just a transistor but maybe something like this (an SOC with 32MB ram which costs about $5 in bulk) though it does require quite a bit of additional electronics to work. Also somebody also made an embedded Linux for the ESP32-S3 (which is even cheaper and doesn't require anywhere as much auxiliary electronics). PS: Yeah, I got the joke. Just pointing out that the reality itself is qui...

Some crazy fucker got the OG Tomb Raider to run on an ESP chip.

Although the ESP is significantly more powerful than the original console.

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superweeniehutjrs lemmy.world superweeniehutjrs@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-24
#18 · Quote Reply

When someone complains about flatpak being bloated I always assume this is what their system is.

You are allowed to notice things are less efficient than they could be even with plenty of resources

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Axolotl feddit.it Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it
Joined: 2025-10-10
#19 · (edited) Quote Reply

It’s funny but it’s not true

looks at the community name
reads at the comment
Smh

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Axolotl feddit.it Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it
Joined: 2025-10-10
#20 · Quote Reply

This meme made me wonder what's the minimum number of transistors needed to run linux

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TarantulaFudge startrek.website TarantulaFudge@startrek.website
Joined: 2024-01-15
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When someone complains about flatpak being bloated I always assume this is what their system is.

While I agree this is funny, if you even just install one flatpack like steam that is like 15+ gb by itself. A fairly comprehensive system with kde, gimp, blender office and more take up much less space.

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9point6 lemmy.world 9point6@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-12
#22 · Quote Reply

This made me look up if you could somehow run it on vacuum tubes, sadly not

But https://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/News/Hacker-Successfully-Runs-Linux-on-a-CPU-from-the-Early-70s

9 day boot time on a 4004!

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zip lemmy.blahaj.zone zip@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2023-11-21
#23 · (edited) Quote Reply

Well, not with 1. But collect a few million transistors,

Gosh, his character as 'himself' on Arrested Development was so damn good. It gets me every time. I think I'm way past due for another rewatch; thanks for reminding me! This was also a wonderful usage of the reference and gif! :)

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lauha lemmy.world lauha@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-06-29
#24 · Quote Reply

Not quite just a transistor but maybe something like this (an SOC with 32MB ram which costs about $5 in bulk) though it does require quite a bit of additional electronics to work. Also somebody also made an embedded Linux for the ESP32-S3 (which is even cheaper and doesn't require anywhere as much auxiliary electronics). PS: Yeah, I got the joke. Just pointing out that the reality itself is qui...

https://dmitry.gr/?r=05.Projects&proj=07.+Linux+on+8bit

This guy ran linux on 8-bit microcontroller by emulating a hogher end processor on an 8 bit computer. He also emulated the ram on an SD card.

Slow as heck, but can be done.

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Wildmimic anarchist.nexus Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus
Joined: 2025-09-05
#25 · (edited) Quote Reply

https://dmitry.gr/?r=05.Projects&proj=07.+Linux+on+8bit This guy ran linux on 8-bit microcontroller by emulating a hogher end processor on an 8 bit computer. He also emulated the ram on an SD card. Slow as heck, but can be done.

funny thing - the SDRAM used provides 300kb/sec, while the SDcard used as storage provides 200kb/sec. Performancewise they could just skip most of the ram outside of booting and use the SDcard without losing much performance, especially since the SDRAM needs to be refreshed every 62ms for a duration of 3ms regardless of use.

Edit: I LOVE this part:

It takes about 2 hours to boot to bash prompt ("init=/bin/bash" kernel command line). Then 4 more hours to boot up the entire Ubuntu ("exec init" and then login). Starting X takes a lot longer. The effective emulated CPU speed is about 6.5KHz, which is on par with what you'd expect emulating a 32-bit CPU & MMU on a measly 8-bit micro. Curiously enough, once booted, the system is somewhat usable. You can type a command and get a reply within a minute. That is to say that you can, in fact, use it. I used it to day to format an SD card, for example. This is definitely not the fastest, but I think it may be the cheapest, slowest, simplest to hand assemble, lowest part count, and lowest-end Linux PC. The board is hand-soldered using wires, there is not even a requirement for a printed circuit board.

6 hours to get into X is ridiculous- and i misread - it takes 6 hours to boot , and then hours more to get an X server running lol

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morto piefed.social morto@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-07-03
#26 · Quote Reply

Not quite just a transistor but maybe something like this (an SOC with 32MB ram which costs about $5 in bulk) though it does require quite a bit of additional electronics to work. Also somebody also made an embedded Linux for the ESP32-S3 (which is even cheaper and doesn't require anywhere as much auxiliary electronics). PS: Yeah, I got the joke. Just pointing out that the reality itself is qui...

There are some not practical, but workable as proof of concept examples that go even lower:

https://hackaday.com/2012/03/28/building-the-worst-linux-pc-ever/

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tetris11 feddit.uk tetris11@feddit.uk
Joined: 2025-02-17
#27 · Quote Reply

Shows image of a common NPN bipolar low power transistor

You're telling me that a Japanese (Nippon) person with wild mood swings and low self esteem who identifies as a trans sister, also runs Linux? How is this news.

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Possibly linux lemmy.zip possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2023-06-26
#28 · Quote Reply

Linux needs a proper MMU

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cmnybo discuss.tchncs.de cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2023-06-11
#29 · Quote Reply

This made me look up if you could somehow run it on vacuum tubes, sadly not But https://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/News/Hacker-Successfully-Runs-Linux-on-a-CPU-from-the-Early-70s 9 day boot time on a 4004!

I'm sure someone could figure out how to boot Linux on a vacuum tube computer. The problem is there just aren't that many around that are still operational.

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renegadespork lemmy.jelliefrontier.net renegadespork@lemmy.jelliefrontier.net
Joined: 2024-12-03
#30 · Quote Reply

You may not like it, but if your distro can’t run on this, it’s bloated.

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diaphragmwp discuss.tchncs.de diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2026-06-03
#31 · Quote Reply

I will probably be hated for this.

NetBSD's slogan is "Of course it runs NetBSD", and with good cause.

- https://www.netbsd.org/about/portability.html

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SourDragon lemmy.world SourDragon@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-07-21
#32 · Quote Reply

Install directly into the base of the brainstem

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yogurtwrong lemmy.world yogurtwrong@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-12
#33 · (edited) Quote Reply

Linux requires at least 32 bit machine words, and it always has. Linux was originally written for Intel 80386. Linux requires a hardware MMU to support virtual memory. There are patches that can make a no-MMU kernel, but it drastically changes the experience to do so.

Well it is kinda cheating but Linux does "run" on a intel 4004 running a MIPS emulator

I think you could cook something like a 4-bit turing complete computer with around 100 transistors or so. And i guess turing completeness basically means "it will run with enough elbow grease" in this case

(if we exclude memory from the transistor count...)

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MonkderVierte lemmy.zip MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-05-30
#34 · Quote Reply

Linux needs a proper MMU

Actually, no.

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AtomicHotSauce piefed.social AtomicHotSauce@piefed.social
Joined: 2026-09-23
#35 · Quote Reply

I don't mean to brag, but I have two of those.

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MonkderVierte lemmy.zip MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-05-30
#36 · Quote Reply

https://dmitry.gr/?r=05.Projects&proj=07.+Linux+on+8bit This guy ran linux on 8-bit microcontroller by emulating a hogher end processor on an 8 bit computer. He also emulated the ram on an SD card. Slow as heck, but can be done.

Ok, but with emulation and enough time, you can run any software on as much as a light switch.

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banshee lemmy.world banshee@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-15
#37 · Quote Reply

Don't get it twisted

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muhyb programming.dev muhyb@programming.dev
Joined: 2023-07-05
#38 · Quote Reply

[Optional]

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Natanael infosec.pub Natanael@infosec.pub
Joined: 2025-01-18
#39 · Quote Reply

Linux requires at least 32 bit machine words, and it always has. Linux was originally written for Intel 80386. Linux requires a hardware MMU to support virtual memory. There are patches that can make a no-MMU kernel, but it drastically changes the experience to do so.

There's an ESP32 with MMU running Linux now

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Viking_Hippie lemmy.dbzer0.com Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2024-12-04
#40 · Quote Reply

I will probably be hated for this. NetBSD's slogan is "Of course it runs NetBSD", and with good cause. - https://www.netbsd.org/about/portability.html

I will probably be hated for this

Why?

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Zwiebel feddit.org Zwiebel@feddit.org
Joined: 2024-06-23
#41 · Quote Reply

This made me look up if you could somehow run it on vacuum tubes, sadly not But https://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/News/Hacker-Successfully-Runs-Linux-on-a-CPU-from-the-Early-70s 9 day boot time on a 4004!

Of course you can run it on tubes, in principal, since they do the same as transistors at the end of the day

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9point6 lemmy.world 9point6@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-12
#42 · Quote Reply

Of course you can run it on tubes, in principal, since they do the same as transistors at the end of the day

I guess I more wondered if some madlad had actually done it

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Zwiebel feddit.org Zwiebel@feddit.org
Joined: 2024-06-23
#43 · (edited) Quote Reply

Not quite just a transistor but maybe something like this (an SOC with 32MB ram which costs about $5 in bulk) though it does require quite a bit of additional electronics to work. Also somebody also made an embedded Linux for the ESP32-S3 (which is even cheaper and doesn't require anywhere as much auxiliary electronics). PS: Yeah, I got the joke. Just pointing out that the reality itself is qui...

>Not quite
>has about 1.5 million gates in the CPU alone
>each gate is multiple transistors

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Clippy piefed.social Monkey@piefed.social
Joined: 2026-03-24
#44 · Quote Reply

Some crazy fucker got the OG Tomb Raider to run on an ESP chip. Although the ESP is significantly more powerful than the original console.

Tomb Raider... not Doom, I'm shocked

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StabbingSky lemmy.zip StabbingSky@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2026-04-30
#45 · Quote Reply

Tomb Raider... not Doom, I'm shocked

I think someone already did that one

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Clippy piefed.social Monkey@piefed.social
Joined: 2026-03-24
#46 · Quote Reply

I think someone already did that one

figures

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Aceticon lemmy.dbzer0.com Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2024-12-06
#47 · (edited) Quote Reply

88 pins, that's way too many! Is there a 32 pin DIP-32 chip that can run Linux?

Well, as two people already pointed out, turns out somebody got Linux to run on the 8-bit ATMega1284p microcontroller which comes in a DIP package, though it's 44 pin rather than 32.

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idk (she/her) szmer.info Tiger_Man_@szmer.info
Joined: 2025-08-06
#48 · Quote Reply

Shows image of a common NPN bipolar low power transistor You're telling me that a Japanese (Nippon) person with wild mood swings and low self esteem who identifies as a trans sister, also runs Linux? How is this news.

wait till you hear about igbt trans sisters

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one_knight_scripting lemmy.world one_knight_scripting@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-03-26
#49 · (edited) Quote Reply

I guess I more wondered if some madlad had actually done it

Someone has done this with relays so I don't blame you for asking.

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egregiousRac piefed.social phailhaus@piefed.social
Joined: 2026-03-09
#50 · Quote Reply

I will probably be hated for this Why?

BSD isn't Linux.

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Logi lemmy.world logi@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-08
#51 · Quote Reply

Requirements are one resistor. Gold band for optimal performance.

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