Just because I read the instructions doesn't mean I need to follow them.

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You read instructions?

Weird.

If you can’t tie a knot, tie a lot!

When installing something for a customer, yes.

Oh, in that case, you'll get a call saying you used the wrong type of knots about .4 of a femtosecond after you get home, and asking you "how are you gonna make this right?"

Luckily I've yet to receive such call. The vast majority of my customers are unreasonably reasonable.

However, if there ever is an issue with the quality of my work, I'll ofcourse come and fix it free of charge.

You'd think as a climber, I know a lot of knots, but I don't know this one. In fact I only know the figure 8, bowline, how to tie a prusik, and a reef, which I usually fuck up first go.

Basically, don't ask a rock climber to help out with knots unless your life depends on it, then you're good.

Luckily I’ve yet to receive such call. The vast majority of my customers are unreasonably reasonable.

reasonable customers? strangers, random members of the public, behaving in a reasonable manner, especially when money is involved?

I don't believe you.

Knot what I expected

Watcha buildin?

I am very curious to know what this contraption is for.

Hoist for mother-in-law transportation capsule.

I'm not sure if this is even suitable for climbing. I like it because it's easy to untie even after being tightened.

That's a space ship. He's building a space ship.

Maybe someone can help me. There was some sort of hitch knot my father showed me once, for tying down loads, and you could pull the rope and it would self tighten and to undo it you would pull a part in the middle of a loop.

I've never been able to find anything like it.

Trucker's hitch. It also gives you 3:1 mechanical advantage and there's a self-locking version too.

I'm think we're all tied of these puns

Boy if I had a nickle for every time that happened...

Well, there is very little call for knowing any knots except the figure eight when rock climbing. In fact in my experience with the same, it seems that knowledge of too many fancy knots tends to lead people towards using the wrong knot for the application for no other reason than to show off and/or justify knowing that knot. But one thing most people of that stripe tend not to know is how said knot performs under strain or shock load or being bounced when unloaded. And most especially, how various knots reduce the load capacity of the rope where they're tied.

For similar reasons, I wince every time I see arborists insisting that the bowline is the answer for every single application imaginable up to and including supporting human weight, which it absolutely is not — speaking of knots that can be untied by bouncing them. You will never catch me dangling from a bowline in any circumstances.

You could do a lot worse than only being good at figure eights, then.

Reef (from Cubscouts): Left over under, right over thru.

I can feel it coming. I am going to get interested in knots soon. I learned the Secure Ian Knot to tie my shoes a few months ago and the hunger has started to grow.

I love how it is internationally agreed upon that these things are for transporting mother-in-laws.

Does she stay in there all the time?

do the trucker's hitch

There are many other knots used commonly in climbing and he named a few. You cannot tie off a three way anchor with a figure 8, a bowline is not safe for human weight because it can invert, despite being used for thousand pound logs all day everyday at my job... And it's funny he called it a reef to me, all my sailing buddies call it a reef, all my climbing friends say square, and hardly use it. A sheet bend is really hardy for hauling loads up the wall, a prussic for a repel device, and an alpine butterfly for tripoint anchors.

Edit: this is more about Trad climbing than sport or toprope. If you didn't set the anchor on a toprope and your guide/partner isn't into carabiner/harness setups, yea you're gonna tie a lot of double 8s

I am a few stages into the knit obsession, I own the Ashley Book and have a couple project knots displayed in my house.

You got a link and a description, I'll add a quick instruction.

Tie off the standing end, cross the space and around your close anchor. Stop. About 1/3 of the way across the gap(unless it's a very long span, then just a comfortable distance) make a loop. Best knot IMO here is a bowline on a bight, but I'm not explaining that here lol so tie a double overhand, the one you certainly know to make a loop. That will lock up but that's a problem for tomorrow. Now, pass the working end that's gone around the anchor through the loop, and back towards the anchor. Pull on that shit! You have as much room as you left to the loop to draw right with. I usually go back around the anchor and finish with a double fisherman's, while controversial, I like the ability to slide the locking knot loose, and am comfortable with friction holding it.

Well that’s gonna void your warranty.

From now on yes - we needed to clear some space in the woodshed.

Here's my favorites:

Perfection loop
Bowline / Yosemite bowline
Alpine butterfly
Trucker's hitch
Constrictor knot
Figure eight / follow throught
Sheet bend
Zeppelin bend
Double fisherman's knot
Scaffold/Poacher's knot
Stopper knot

This will either cure that problem, or cement it so thoroughly it'll become your new life. I wish you luck.

https://youtu.be/8DBhTXM_Br4

Sounds like this inline truckers hitch.

There are variations to the bowline that make them suitable for climbing. Scotts locked, EBSB, lees link, harry butlers Yosemite, and alan lees Yosemite.

I'd pick the harry butlers Yosemite bowline, and Id say it is objectively better than the figure eight. Its totally security, easier to untie after heavy load, just as easy to verify, similar line strength reduction as the figure 8, and the tail end points inside the eye as to not interfere with clipping the rope to climbing protection.

New Shibari practitioner in development

I actually did a bunch back in the day, but it was - ahem - practical use of knots for restraint - not the pretty / fancy stuff.

I did both and suspensions as well, good times

Oh nice, thats looks like it for sure. Thanks for that

Don't get tangled up about it

It just looks like a square knot to me. What is the difference?

Edit. I took the 30 seconds to look it up.

Square knot is a reef knot.

I always knew it as:

"Right over left and under, then left over right and under." 🤷

I can knot believe it.

What a radical nonconformist you are. I wish I knew more knots.

It's superior by far when you may want to ever actually u tie the rope. But my experience with some ropes is that the action of loading and unloading or otherwise jostling the knot can cause it to come loose.

I sometimes tie off the loose ends together to prevent that but it's hella ugly and bulky.

Any advice on using this knot?

where there's a weight limit, what's the best way to split the load?

Does she fit with the snowboards?

Oh my god that hurts my sentimental soul so much.

My trick is if I want a different knot, I just add more loops that I stick things through. This probably isn't the ideal approach.

I just try to find ways to use the figure 8 knot for everything 😬

If you do you'll have to find the loose ends.