How is impregnating a treatment?

The attitude of someone who mistreats animals ☝️

"this image clearly shows weirder things than any vegan does"

Super intelligence on display.

I don't mistreat animals. this is libelous.

It's not rape if it's your dog

Veganism is unnatural because we're all omnivores, and evolved eating both plants and animals.

Impregnating cows this way is also unnatural.

Both can be true.

That's correct, yes.

However, my dog is my property, and someone can only artificially inseminate my property with my permission.

I would really like to see you try to get your dog pregnant.

No they don't.

1st. I understand why you might believe that wrong, based upon second answer. Everything born-living has Rights, simply because of birth-existence, somethings are not technically birthed into this world. It is more of a reflection upon those do not accept that fact.

By the way, the most powerful thing, outside of universal forces, are all our minds & together they even more powerful.

Everything born-living has Rights

Well, we just have to agree to disagree. I think nothing had any rights before humans invented the concept. And even now, any right that can't or isn't being enforced is pretty much useless and not more valuable than a wish.

By the way, the powerful thing, outside of universal forces are all our minds & together they even more powerful.

Well, considering that humanity would be totally helpless against universal forces, like a super volcano or a gamma ray burst, it suggests that all our minds are pretty weak in the over-all schema of things.

Almost every person that are not Vegan just do not get this. Even back in the day, it was more costly to be mainstream eating/not all food homemade Vegan, with unhealthy processed foods industries. Plus the side effects (physical-social & Etc.) of horrible health causes are extremely costly.

Technically fruits are plants babies you know?

If you're going to try to use biology to make an argument, no matter how bad the argument itself is, at least learn the third grade basics.

Fruits are made to be eaten. On purpose. They're not "plant babies" - they're precisely crafted to attract animals like you to eat them, the idea being that the seeds gets dispersed via the animal to a place farther away than the initial parent.

In other words, a plant spends a lot of energy creating a juicy fruit precisely so you can eat it.

Pretty fucked up to try to equate animal husbandry with rape.

Like, what a fucking stupid answer that can apply to anything and nothing at the same time.

Animals are animals, and humans are animals. Kangaroos are not cows, but both are also animals - different things ARE different, but at the same time, in some aspects, they are not.

There is a lot of horrible things in animal agriculture, this one isn’t really one of them. I’ve seen the process with my own eyes … the cows don’t care, they barley notice. I feel more for the people who have to do that professionally.

I live in a Unincorporated (important to hiding the truth of practices, add rodeo training to all of what we are talking about) & Ag. area (I could never really say it is a community, though before the realization I used to, few care about each other), but I have never seen the practice first hand, no sick pun here.

Just factually be given what the procedure of sticking almost one's entire arm in the cow's body (not for the cows' health is bad enough, but does not stop there) is, even can be understood through Public Media's 'Creatures Great & Small', done a ton there is enough. It is like we cannot avoid the country lifestyle, which supports other Beings abuse like this, since 2000s (even more so accepted, than before).

They don't die in 5-6 years, they stop producing milk in high quantities and are slaughtered and used as low quality beef.

What in the fuck

Wait which part of the man is the banana reliant upon

Ok, but what does this have to do with the law & order comment? Because inseminating a cow isn't sexual assault or rape and I've never implied that the cows feel pleasure from it.

Just that the cows don't really seem to mind it. So I'd question that it even should be considered animal abuse.

Sir. This is /m/Lemmyshitpost.

If non-human animals cannot consent, isn't all sex between any two non-human animals rape?

If that's the case, isn't this preferable to just letting the animals just rape each other indiscriminately?

I disagree with you, obviously, but it can never be accepted, because it is worse than any sickness-crimes our species on our species has ever been done. The scale of it is unbelievable & just a sign of species (in general, obviously) sickness. Just the scale, WOW!!!!!

Yes, the way it should be- especially, with potentially spreading ourselves to other worlds/'Global Warming' extinction event first (keep reading), we are in the way/overpopulation-overdensity-caring very little for The Living Earth & The Living Beings (even members of our own species). Correct me if I a wrong, but some Earth bound universal forces are manipulatable by us.

ITT: Animal abuse apologia

See previous post,

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You are the expert on cows expressions & emotions? NO
Plus just because we are not looking for their intelligence or maybe, even cannot test for it- which totally disagree, does not mean it does not exist. I would say ask a Indian (not a indigenous person, though their believes in other beings are also important to this discussion), but that leads into religions.

You are the expert on cows expressions & emotions?

Nope, that's why I'm sure as hell not getting behind a cow or horse and putting my hand up any hole. But apparently the people that do that know their emotions well enough to know they aren't about to get a hoof to the forehead, so these experts do exist.

LOL, come on man,

I live in Rodeo & the animals of rodeo country & I can tell you they are beaten down, so much that they have to be hurt to get in rodeo action, that "people" loves so much. Same is applied to all animals industries, you conditioned under those situations, even if you have never interacted (directly or not) with. Same applies to the "people" around it, like the facts always say, cops-military "people" do not have highest suicidal (SP?) rates in The USA (doubt much different everywhere else that other Beings are treated this way) it is "people" in animals meat processing plants.

That's what somebody who mistreats animals says

Cows are not on the same level as humans

Yeah, I don't know anything about rodeo, sounds fucked up. But I've never witness any horse or cow beaten down at any of the local farms around the area where I grew up.

Fun fact, we evolved to eat raw meat, that's why we have an appendix. Then, when we stopped eating raw meat, we started to evolve away from the appendix.

Evolutionary arguments don't support the naturalist fallacy, because evolution doesn't work like that. It responds to environmental pressures. It's not some guiding light for what we're "meant" to be doing, it's the tools we've got to support what we already did.

If you believe that animals should have rights like humans do, then animals can be raped. If slavery was still legal, would you write "it's pretty fucked up to equate slave husbandry with rape"? Just because we have historically done something, that doesn't mean that what we're doing is in any way moral.

Anti-vegans will go to any depths of depravity in order to deal with their cognitive dissonance. Once, on Reddit, I got a commenter to agree that he would be fine if someone had a dog in a cage they tortured for entertainment, rather than agree that it's kinda fucked up that we slaughter animals because their flesh tastes nice.

the part where we use pesticides, fertilizer and other techniques to make sure these plants don't die. they're bred for usefuleness, not for surviving in the wild. this is basically true for all crops we farm

paying someone to kill an animal so that you can consume its corpse is how you treat animals nicely, is it?

Dude, forcing semen into a vagina is not a fucking treatment. Disgusting rape apologia.

You left out the rest, where the calf is seperated from its mother, tortured and killed for veal, while the mother mourns the loss of her child that the milk she produces is actually for, so the milk can be stolen from her for profit.

Cows are just as unnatural as bananas, but the farming of animals is much more cruel, unnecessary, and destructive to the environment

Ah the tried and tested "it's ok if it's my property" which historically(and currently) is a universal guideline for what is and isn't ok.

Real question, what if there is no cognitive dissonance.

Like someone who knows exactly what's going on and says "fuck it, it's delicious" ?

There's websites for that.

we’re all omnivores

Except, you know, the vegans.

I'd ask them to sit down and watch a documentary about the animal agriculture industry (such as Earthlings) to be sure they really do know the truth.

What's your point behind this question?
That vegans are actually the ones killing off cows and chickens?

"I lead someone who disagrees with me into saying something stupid once, therefore everyone who disagrees with me must have cognitive dissonance."

Lol

OK, so if negative fucks were a thing, that would be how may fucks in general i give about the actual argument you are having.

That being said, to me it seems hypocritical to be throwing shade about intentional animal cruelty unless you are somehow posting these replies without using any electronics whatsoever.

Almost all electronics require materials sourced or processed off the back of rare earth minerals not even mentioning the supply chain and assembly.

As you said, people are animals too, slavery and workplace mutilation are animal abuse.

I'm not whattabouting your argument, both things are fucked up and one doesn't cancel out the other and as i said, i'm not supporting either side.

but the stunning lack of awareness (or acknowledgement) of the hypocrisy of your argument is offensive.

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