Do not fuck nazis

They can do it themselves

This is a pro life tip.

Looks like you've got four nazi's so far who are cowardly even by nazi standards downvoting you.

🤣

my usual method: post “nazis give up their moral and social humanity when they choose to become nazis.”

people reply: “aktchually dehumanizing someone is a tactic of the nazis and should not be done.”

neat. thank for letting me know you’re a nazi. turn back and let your humanity return.

What part of "fuck nazis" do you disagree with?

TIL "fuck nazis" is absolutist rhetoric that makes us equal to Bush Jr.

It's so funny how good this works.

Maybe its the space inbetween. He wants to be a fucknazi xD

every time

Don't think they disagreed with that part.

I think it's just recognizing the complexity of a world where even nazis will call their enemies "nazis" if it's useful to them.

The "if you are offended when I call you a nazi you are a nazi" is a weird take to begin with.

I think the comment you are replying to isn't arguing with the fuck nazis part, but the behaviour where progressive groups can be divided and conquered by socializing animosity between them.

Like when atheists were fighting against the heritage foundation, until they had to defend against claims of being bigots because "wanting to make circumcision generally illegal in the USA means you are pro FGM and you hate women, and if you argue otherwise it is an admission of guilt"

And all of the progressives were shamed out until the very groups that were actively fighting groups like the heritage foundation were terraformed into actual incel chud hangouts, while academic feminists were drowned out by the same culture war bullshit, helping to generally paint feminists as cringe karens, rather than a bastion against political movements by groups like the heritage foundation.

If you don't know why I keep talking about the heritage foundation, it's because they are the project 2025 people in no small part responsible for the current actual fascist push.

But.. That's difficult to explain while confronted by absolutist tribalism.

Don't be divided and conquered. It's harder for progressives to coordinate due to group complexity, but it's important not to do the work of the fascists for them.

Progressives fighting progressives because its socially expedient to not think about the bigger picture is indeed a big part of why trump is in power, which that comment seems to indicate as a bad thing.

That doesn't matter though if you just imagine their comment was "don't be mean to nazis!!"

If you just pretend they said that, it's so much easier to do the social peacock thing that has kneecapped progressive/leftist groups, and we can just ignore the failures of this behavior, because self reflection is bad for some reason.

The real question is... is the poster trying to drive engagement, or division.

I read that quote in mom's voice in my head. Kinda like "don't swear honey, it makes you look uncivilized." Then I wondered, is there a civilized way to call someone a nazi?

I see that over at fascist.world, it's considered divisive to say fuck nazis

1. Post "feddit.org is a zionist instance".

Division against...genocidal fucks? Uh yeah, I sure hope it does

I'm not saying it's divisive to say fuck nazis. But calling someone you know almost nothing about a nazi seems a bit extreme. Mostly because the level of willing misinterpretation on here is stupid high. I could say fuck trump, and somehow there will be people who will call me a trump supporter. It boggles the mind.

Then I wondered, is there a civilized way to call someone a nazi?

FWIIII ^Huh!^ ^Hooh!^ ^Huh!^ ^Hooh!^ ^Huh!^ ^Hooh!^

Lmao dude this was a post against unspecified hypothetical nazis, anyone who decided to get offended by it put their name to it themselves. A hit dog hollers.

Now wait a minute! I like being cucked by a authoritarian dictator, who uses minority groups as scapegoats for all our current issues. So what if l wear a standardized red colored item to identify people who are not like me?

That doesn't make me a Nazi.

But calling someone you know almost nothing about a nazi seems a bit extreme.

Unless that's the one thing you know for sure about them.

Nazi punks, fuck off!

i find it scary

There is no 'other part'.

The meme literally is about making this one statement and waiting for people to be offended.

There is no other statement here.

Anything besides this is happening in your head. That's why it's working.

Nothing. I disagree with the sentiment of the post.

Nothing. I disagree with the sentiment of the post.

I appreciate you using your brain and resisting the circlejerk. You can’t just call everybody that disagrees with you some leftist dog whistle (nazi, fascist, bigot, shill, AI, xphobic) and think you’re effecting positive change. Bring people in, don’t shut people out. The only change you’re effecting is making people mad at you and then we have situation like Trump winning a second term.

Where do I get my membership card then?

Nuance? Sounds awfully like Nazi!

It feels better to make cartoon villains out of people who are wrong than to entertain any differences between the worst thing you can think of and someone who doesn't happen to share your views (however obviously correct they may seem).

why do they want to have an echo chamber instead of debating with them in the market place of ideas!

what do you mean those debates would have one side removed due to feddit.org admins and mods

The funny part is that votes are public, to ensure they get counted correctly during federation.

i get 404

Step 3, find the Nazi. That’s not a strawman. You’re labeling anybody that argues you a Nazi.

Classic lib.world allowing fascists on their instance. Why am I not surprised?

Post hog

the world is complex, and nazis will use this type of oversimplified comprehension to stop progressive groups from finding common ground.

divide and conquer has been extremely successful for the motives of fascism.

which is no small part why USA is currently run by fascists that keep making threats against my allied country.

we can hate nazis while also being capable of communication past the hypersimplified binaries that are actively useful for nazis.

this is why all the academics keep shouting that americans need to learn to read, and why it really is "that deep."

this isn't "happening in my head." at least any more than anything else from the framing of predictive processing.
but that dismissal is generally the response academics have gotten when trying to affect the general social comprehension.

but you haven't really engaged with any of the points i've actually made, creating your own re-interpretation of the conversation that allows you to ignore the points being made, responding to yourself instead, which is great for oversimplified social dogpiling.

we can hate nazis while also being capable of communication past the hypersimplified binaries that are actively useful for nazis.

So why are you being useful to Nazis by speaking up and having a hypothetical discourse and being a running dog for Nazism? Sometimes it's just better to not say anything as an antifascist and seeing Nazis show themselves (only Nazis would get triggered/baited to comment on a meme like this)

social peacock thing that has kneecapped progressive/leftist groups

Interesting lingo you use there

Have you dipshit considered that fash seeing no "social peacock" might let them think they're in good company as they're unopposed? You think calling out "virtues signaling" is a good counter that fash have? Why are you doing this for them?

The sentiment of the post is "fuck nazis". What do you disagree with about that?

The post is we hate nazis and one way to find who they may be is say that and see who complains about being mean to nazis.

The entire point is see who responds that's mean not call anyone specific a nazi

I agree that we have to be careful about who we call nazis, and who they call nazis, but if you get offended by the phrase "fuck nazis", without further context or identifiers, then I'm ok with saying fuck off.

This is the way.

It's so funny how you're using so many words, going out of your way spreading what you think is some ultra deep next level wisdom - just to somehow justify why it's ok to be triggered by 'fuck nazis'.

Just so you know, a normal person see this, shrugs and is already on their way to the next thing on their mind. You don't have to have a political agenda to not be triggered by this.

You're so simple minded that you don't notice how you're hooked by this primitive mind trick.

And that you want to sound like some intellectual on top of that is just so hilarious.

and being a running dog for Nazism

at literally no point was i being "a running dog for nazism"
and repeatedly i showed how this exact failing was useful for the current fascist movement.

"Interesting lingo you use there "

how can i phrase it without setting off your imaginary dog whistles? also i get these concepts from.. anti-fascist academics.

i do agree that it's important to flag nazis as bad, and socially reify that,
but also that we need to be able to point out when the more clever nazis get the stupidest portion of progressives to socialize that other progressive groups are the real nazis, and that even trying to discuss the matter is an admission of guilt.

the original comment i was discussing a bout was talking about the FRAMING.

like saying "right thing for the wrong reasons." which is important, because sometimes failing to distinguish helps the nazis.

this is the part about blue curtains, but you have not yet actually noticed the point we are making beyond your simpler interpretation of what is being said.

as a progressive and a leftist, i find this exhausting, because the inability for people to comprehend words past the social signalling is directly responsible for much of the recent fascist success.

but let's keep ignoring all of that, because academics are mean for saying we have to think about context sometimes.