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4Chan knew about Jeffrey Epstein's death 38 minutes before the rest of the world. The FBI tried to figure out how.
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Banana sh.itjust.works Banana@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-14
#102 · Quote Reply

Proven by whom? How do you even prove such a thing?

Here's one showtoolsai posted on instagram, its not up on his YouTube yet but he does this for a living and is a great resource for learning AI red flags.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DVJ7hHvD63Q/

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Catoblepas piefed.blahaj.zone Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2025-06-06
#103 · Quote Reply

I've been hearing that the "changed handle" thing isn't valid, because when an account handle is changed you can still see the original on the user's profile (and that wasn't the case for the littlestjeff account). With all the misinformation flying around, I have no idea about the accuracy of this though.

Yeah, it seems implausible to me that such a gaping security hole would be in a hugely popular game that long, but I guess that’s also not impossible. Stupider things have happened.

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Maeve kbin.earth Maeve@kbin.earth
Joined: 2024-06-16
#104 · Quote Reply

And certain accounts in certain places known to be Epstein accounts are mysteriously active...

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prole lemmy.blahaj.zone prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2024-06-11
#105 · Quote Reply

Somebody in Israel logged into Epstein's Fortnight account a few years after his supposed death, FYI.

Epstein's Fortnite account

I hate this timeline so much

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can sh.itjust.works can@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-10
#106 · Quote Reply

I’ve been getting the impression lately that 4chan has been a platform where the rich, or someone paid by them, uses snippets of truthful information baked into outlandish stories to obfuscate their ongoings behind a narrative of easily dismissible conspiracy. Like feeding the pigs carrots, so their shit smells of shit and carrots, and now everyone avoids carrots as a byproduct of it’s associat...

Ghislaine Maxwell was a /pol/ mod. That's all I need to know.

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Maeve kbin.earth Maeve@kbin.earth
Joined: 2024-06-16
#107 · Quote Reply

The longer this goes on the weirder it gets. A death reported before it happened? Thousands or hours of video tapes being withheld? Shipping containers he used full of incriminating documents? I've always had distain for conspiracy theories, but I also suspected the elites were probably deranged. Then, the other day, I was search for bbq recipes, and came across a Cannibal bbq subreddit. I assu...

I'm in that rural neighborhood that never locks their doors. "Unsolved" hit and runs and "unsolved" shootings, and "unsolved" bodies being found by "hunters" are increasing. Btw a group of armed robbers recently sued -- and won! a supposedly US government protected national entity because the armed security personnel used their weapon to hold the robbers in place while they called 911. So that's what happens to good guys with guns, they get fired for never firing a shot and calling the police on criminals.

Fwiw, I am not suicidal. I have family I love and would never leave in guilt, shame, and despair.

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Maeve kbin.earth Maeve@kbin.earth
Joined: 2024-06-16
#108 · Quote Reply

In 2019 I graduated uni and struggled to find work for 9 months. During that time my boredom took me to the conspiracy subreddit... Most of the things on there are hilariously far fetched. But also people there were CONVINCED that Epstein wasn't going to make it to trial. When he died (or escaped), my view on conspiracy theorists changed substantially. At this point I wouldn't be surprised to f...

At this point I wouldn't be surprised to find out 9/11 was planned, in all honestly.

Bin Laden didn't blow up the projects

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0_o7 lemmy.dbzer0.com 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2024-12-02
#109 · Quote Reply

I'm in that rural neighborhood that never locks their doors. "Unsolved" hit and runs and "unsolved" shootings, and "unsolved" bodies being found by "hunters" are increasing. Btw a group of armed robbers recently sued -- and won! a supposedly US government protected national entity because the armed security personnel used their weapon to hold the robbers in place while they called 911. So that'...

Btw a group of armed robbers recently sued -- and won! a supposedly US government protected national entity because the armed security personnel used their weapon to hold the robbers in place while they called 911.

That's crazy. What was the lie they came up with? That they were not robbers and were forcefully held? Wouldn't trespassing work in favor of the security personnel?

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Maeve kbin.earth Maeve@kbin.earth
Joined: 2024-06-16
#110 · Quote Reply

Fair enough. It's crazy that Epstein is easy to include in 9/11 conspiracies now too, considering his link to Lutnick (too lazy to spell check his name), who didn't go into work on 9/11 when like 600 of his employees died. Not to mention Epstein's ties to royals, presidents, and allegedly the Mossad. The who thing is so fertile for conspiracy theories that it basically grows itself.

Allegedly? His GF and child sex industry recruiter/groomer was the daughter of "alleged" Mossad.

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JasonDJ lemmy.zip JasonDJ@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2024-01-16
#111 · (edited) Quote Reply

Like when Andy Kaufman did an entire show at the Apollo with 'his grandmother' rocking back and forth in a chair off to one side, only to pull off the wig and it was Robin Williams (in his quietest role ever) all along?

Man comedy has gone so downhill.

Like there were the greats... Abbott, Costello...Kaufman, Belushi.

Millennials got fucked again. Foxworthy. Dunham. Cable Guy. Eddie Murphy's later years. What have you done for me lately, Eddie?

We could've kept Chris Farley, but he had to die. And without him, David Spade is worthless.

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Maeve kbin.earth Maeve@kbin.earth
Joined: 2024-06-16
#112 · (edited) Quote Reply

Btw a group of armed robbers recently sued -- and won! a supposedly US government protected national entity because the armed security personnel used their weapon to hold the robbers in place while they called 911. That's crazy. What was the lie they came up with? That they were not robbers and were forcefully held? Wouldn't trespassing work in favor of the security personnel?

Note this was a _civil_to trial, requiring only "preponderance of evidence," so 50.5% beyond reasonable doubt. Their criminal trial is pending.

https://legalinsights.us/assault-with-a-deadly-weapon-charges-penalties-and-defenses/

For a conviction of assault with a deadly weapon, the prosecution must prove specific elements beyond a reasonable doubt. First, it must establish that the accused committed an act constituting an assault. An assault is generally defined as an intentional act that causes another person to reasonably apprehend imminent harmful or offensive contact. The action must be deliberate, not accidental.

https://thegunzone.com/is-pointing-and-presenting-a-firearm-a-felony/

H3 7. What is ‘aggravated assault’ with a firearm? How does it differ from simple assault?
‘Aggravated assault’ with a firearm typically involves pointing a firearm with the intent to cause serious bodily harm or placing the victim in imminent fear of serious bodily harm.

But tbh, the magistrates, judges, prosecutors and defense lawyers are ask in the same pockets. Those who pay their bills on time and practice omerta skate.

Again, I am not suicidal and have loved ones is never stick with shame, guilt, unanswered questions. Again, "unsolved" hit and runs and shootings, and oh forgot to mention, drug overdose is prevelant here. If I happen to pass away by any of these ways, gas chromatography hair follicle tests should be done, and device records subpoenaed, and my family members should file lawsuits against my county and state.

Eta forced/coerced trafficking of adults and minors is also a big money maker here, and those respected and not so much are involved in it together.

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ChunkMcHorkle lemmy.world ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-15
#113 · Quote Reply

Watch Saló by Pier Paolo Passolini. Looks totally credible. If butchers in concentration camps (or IDF in Gaza) can be the summum of evil, why would the elite not be. Epstein compromised them and now, after Gaza, Trump is going to go to war with Iran because there's a pedo video of him somewhere. I always assumed Israel was doing America's dirty work in the middle east but it's the other way ar...

Watch Saló by Pier Paolo Passolini.

You're not wrong, but . . . jfc that is a hard movie to watch if you have a soul.

Which is, of course, why Pasolini made it the way he did.

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ayyy sh.itjust.works ayyy@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2024-06-20
#114 · Quote Reply

Somebody in Israel logged into Epstein's Fortnight account a few years after his supposed death, FYI.

This was a hoax, look it up.

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Maeve kbin.earth Maeve@kbin.earth
Joined: 2024-06-16
#115 · Quote Reply

Its not. By 2019 there were hundreds of thousands of 4chan users. There were two threads of comments the FBI considered credible. One, specifically focused on observable medical conditions and procedures related to the minutes and hour immediately around the time where Epstein's body is allegedly discovered. https://www.justice.gov/age-verify?destination=%2Fepstein%2Ffiles%2FDataSet+9%2FEFTA001...

I mean some of the feds participate and/or facilitate unsavory activities, and some look the other way because they are cowards.

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TropicalDingdong lemmy.world TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-29
#116 · Quote Reply

I mean some of the feds participate and/or facilitate unsavory activities, and some look the other way because they are cowards.

I don't disagree. But there is a clear chain of custody that the feds pursued and issued multiple subpoenas in an effort to figure out who made BOTH of the 4chan posts.

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Maeve kbin.earth Maeve@kbin.earth
Joined: 2024-06-16
#117 · Quote Reply

I don't disagree. But there is a clear chain of custody that the feds pursued and issued multiple subpoenas in an effort to figure out who made BOTH of the 4chan posts.

Do we know these chains of custody aren't forged? Idk I'm about to sleep, sorry. I have an extremely personality disordered client who threw an entitlement tantrum today on their caregivers and family. It was wild and I am tired 😂

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JeeBaiChow lemmy.world JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-09-04
#118 · Quote Reply

Probably trying to find a way to sue 4chan.

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TheObviousSolution lemmy.ca TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2025-06-25
#119 · Quote Reply

In https://lemmy.world/c/Epsteinfiles from 17 days ago: https://lemmy.world/post/42921222?scrollToComments=true There were two IP's associated with these comments. 107.77.223.177 and 172.58.139.162 One IP was responsible for all of the comments regarding medical information (which can be confirmed in part by the autopsy, also available unredacted (mostly) in the files(. I tried to follow up on ...

Sounds like Epstein got the confidential-informant-who-gets-a-fake-identity treatment. From the sounds of the rumors, it wouldn't be the FBI either. Given it involves international parties, it would probably involve the CIA and Epstein would literally be protected by the Intelligence Identities Protection Act if his new identity were to be revealed, and at the highest classification of secrecy, so nobody involved in the operation probably even knows who they are providing support to.

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TropicalDingdong lemmy.world TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-29
#120 · Quote Reply

Do we know these chains of custody aren't forged? Idk I'm about to sleep, sorry. I have an extremely personality disordered client who threw an entitlement tantrum today on their caregivers and family. It was wild and I am tired 😂

It would take a huge amount of effort to fake, and real life backs up the majority of their contents. Especially in this case, where the 4chan posts were screencapped/ archived, where reporters knew almost as soon as the feds did.

I haven't found any evidence of planted or fake documents so far and I've looked at several thousands of these. It would be truly a substantial undertaking to forge the kind of interlocked chains of custody in these documents. And reality bears out the chains of custody we do see. That would be practically impossible to forge.

Its also clear that there is significant omissions by those chains of custody. If you were going to fake the chains of custody, why would you leave such clear and obvious holes.

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TropicalDingdong lemmy.world TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-29
#121 · Quote Reply

Sounds like Epstein got the confidential-informant-who-gets-a-fake-identity treatment. From the sounds of the rumors, it wouldn't be the FBI either. Given it involves international parties, it would probably involve the CIA and Epstein would literally be protected by the Intelligence Identities Protection Act if his new identity were to be revealed, and at the highest classification of secrecy,...

I mean the autopsy agrees with the statements in the 3 post 4chan thread, which was the first to claim epstein was dead. There was also a leak in some of the docs with a reporting reaching out to the FBI about a paramedic who leaked the situation via 4chan. So at least the FBI clearly thought that claim was credible.

The second 4chan claim, about the swapping out. This one is tough. I've dug around and I can't confirm that the subpoena records go anywhere. I can find the subpoena to 4chan and 4chans legal response. I can also find the subpoenas to T-mobile and I think Sprint, looking for the information on the IP addresses given by 4chans legal response. But I can't find the response from the telcoms to those subpoenas. Thats where the chain ends for me currently.

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Maeve kbin.earth Maeve@kbin.earth
Joined: 2024-06-16
#122 · Quote Reply

It would take a huge amount of effort to fake, and real life backs up the majority of their contents. Especially in this case, where the 4chan posts were screencapped/ archived, where reporters knew almost as soon as the feds did. I haven't found any evidence of planted or fake documents so far and I've looked at several thousands of these. It would be truly a substantial undertaking to forge t...

Its also clear that there is significant omissions by those chains of custody. If you were going to fake the chains of custody, why would you leave such clear and obvious holes.

Talk about overlooking the obvs! Appreciate you for pointing it out to me. Tired. Must sleep.

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Seth Taylor lemmy.world SethTaylor@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-04-06
#123 · (edited) Quote Reply

I hate when characters are killed off screen

It turns out the actor playing Epstein was himself involved in a sex trafficking scandal. He was fired. That's why they couldn't have an on-screen death for the Epstein character. The whole thing is super meta.

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dan69 lemmy.world dan69@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-02-01
#124 · Quote Reply

Ghislaine Maxwell was a /pol/ mod. That's all I need to know.

Much more believable than the meeting btwn the two

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chunkystyles sopuli.xyz chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2023-06-29
#125 · Quote Reply

This one? https://youtu.be/Ipcr5m2chZE Not saying it’s definitive or that it’s NOT a face swap but dang that’s a wild video

That's her face from 10-15 years ago. She has aged.

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datavoid sh.itjust.works datavoid@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-07-02
#126 · Quote Reply

At this point I wouldn't be surprised to find out 9/11 was planned, in all honestly. Bin Laden didn't blow up the projects

Bin Laden was just a Hollywood actor hired by the CIA, man, the whole thing was staged
/s

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ronl2k lemmy.world ronl2k@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-09-12
#127 · Quote Reply

There's still the option that it was a faked death. That much wealth and power, if it could be done, that's who and when it would be done. I'm not giving it much credence without more evidence, but I've got no reason to think that it's not possible given the series of absurd happenings that morning.

There’s still the option that it was a faked death.

I love watching credible conspiracy theories turn into pure garbage conspiracy theories right before my eyes in one thread.

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Pup Biru aussie.zone pupbiru@aussie.zone
Joined: 2023-12-29
#128 · (edited) Quote Reply

Yeah, it seems implausible to me that such a gaping security hole would be in a hugely popular game that long, but I guess that’s also not impossible. Stupider things have happened.

it’s a very common security issue. it’s usually not a problem because deletions aren’t very common: usually accounts are just inactive, and it’s not a problem that really effects the company itself so there’s no really big reason to focus on fixing it

i’m not arguing either way on this specific case; i’d not heard about it until right now… but it’s pretty plausible from a software and security standpoint

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Catoblepas piefed.blahaj.zone Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone
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#129 · Quote Reply

it’s a very common security issue. it’s usually not a problem because deletions aren’t very common: usually accounts are just inactive, and it’s not a problem that really effects the company itself so there’s no really big reason to focus on fixing it i’m not arguing either way on this specific case; i’d not heard about it until right now… but it’s pretty plausible from a software and security ...

Does it sound plausible from the perspective of a company that has probably at minimum thousands of accounts getting deleting or renamed per day? This seems like something that would have caused much bigger problems much earlier, just due to the number of people involved.

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Earthman_Jim lemmy.zip Earthman_Jim@lemmy.zip
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#130 · (edited) Quote Reply

I’ve been getting the impression lately that 4chan has been a platform where the rich, or someone paid by them, uses snippets of truthful information baked into outlandish stories to obfuscate their ongoings behind a narrative of easily dismissible conspiracy. Like feeding the pigs carrots, so their shit smells of shit and carrots, and now everyone avoids carrots as a byproduct of it’s associat...

Q was probably Steve Bannon working through Ron Watkins who was a useful idiot proxy. The point was to make talking about what Epstein and the gang were actually doing sound like crazy talk.

Remember:
A way to poison the truth is to package it with 9 lies, and a way to hide a lie is to package it with 9 truths.

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osanna lemmy.vg osanna@lemmy.vg
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#131 · Quote Reply

Well 4chan had some deep ties with epstein. Epstein knew the founder and even got him to make a channel
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Tollana1234567 lemmy.today Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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#132 · Quote Reply

In reply to an earlier post

he definitely got assassinated, giving how fast they tried to cover it up, and the news/congress politicinas(both DNC/GOP) dint want it to come to light

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Tollana1234567 lemmy.today Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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#133 · Quote Reply

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the best place to hide is the country that orchestated it, israel.

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Tollana1234567 lemmy.today Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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#134 · Quote Reply

Man comedy has gone so downhill. Like there were the greats... Abbott, Costello...Kaufman, Belushi. Millennials got fucked again. Foxworthy. Dunham. Cable Guy. Eddie Murphy's later years. What have you done for me lately, Eddie? We could've kept Chris Farley, but he had to die. And without him, David Spade is worthless.

and alot of those "comedy actors/actors" turned to be right wing turds.

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Tollana1234567 lemmy.today Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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#135 · Quote Reply

In reply to an earlier post

QANAON was started by Putin, and basically right wingers took with it and ran.

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3abas lemmy.world 3abas@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-07-02
#136 · Quote Reply

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Then if he went far enough to lie about identifying the body, it would serve him to not make a lot of noise about there being a big government conspiracy around it...

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robocall lemmy.world robocall@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-28
#137 · Quote Reply

Probably trying to find a way to sue 4chan.

Can we do a class action lawsuit?

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Warl0k3 lemmy.world Warl0k3@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-10-11
#138 · (edited) Quote Reply

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O...kay, you got any sources with even a shred of credibility? Because those are links to two random entertainers on youtube, a substack article (yay, nazi news platforms!) and an article that claims to have accessed epstein's FedEx account but doesn't provide even a screenshot as evidence.

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Tollana1234567 lemmy.today Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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#139 · Quote Reply

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That does explains THIELs incessant obsession with surveillance(hes mostly a pedophile himeself, or at least target young men or boys), he wants all criticism against him silenced too, and he largely tried to stayed out of news spotlight to that effect. the lawsuit he backed against gawker was him getting "outed" about his business practices and not the fact that hes gay. and his ISLAND full of F-BOYS

another bizarre incident that isnt heavily discussed was that he had "attractive young male model, boytoy"(not his current husband whom got mysteriously "allegedly defenstrated" back in 2024.

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Tollana1234567 lemmy.today Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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#140 · Quote Reply

In reply to an earlier post

US actually knew about the potential terrorist attack months or a year before. it allegedly was through miscommunication between the intelligence agencies(one wanted to take the credit over the other)

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Tollana1234567 lemmy.today Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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#141 · Quote Reply

Bin Laden was just a Hollywood actor hired by the CIA, man, the whole thing was staged /s

he was in pakistan the whole time, and bush knew it, he dint do anything to pursue him, including pressuring pakistan for like 7 years while he was in.

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Tollana1234567 lemmy.today Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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#142 · Quote Reply

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i would say MOSSAD was more than alleged, considering ghislaine and his dad had very deep ties to israel, and worked with them.

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ragebutt lemmy.dbzer0.com ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#143 · Quote Reply

In reply to an earlier post

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-0Sky1AyDzM

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thespcicifcocean lemmy.world thespcicifcocean@lemmy.world
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#144 · Quote Reply

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Remember, Saudi Arabia played a part in 9/11 too. Fucker had ties to MBS and his daddy too

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monkeyjoe lemmy.world monkeyjoe@lemmy.world
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#145 · Quote Reply

Ghislaine Maxwell was a /pol/ mod. That's all I need to know.

"it's a containment board"

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faythofdragons slrpnk.net faythofdragons@slrpnk.net
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#146 · Quote Reply

Then if he went far enough to lie about identifying the body, it would serve him to not make a lot of noise about there being a big government conspiracy around it...

True, assuming this is rational behavior. People can do some pretty crazy things out of hubris or pressure though.

I'm not going to definitively state that Jeffery isn't dead. It really is most plausible that he died that night. I just, wouldn't be surprised if he showed up alive.

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M137 lemmy.world M137@lemmy.world
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#147 · Quote Reply

In reply to an earlier post

"We did it, lemmy!"

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jmsy lemmy.world jmsy@lemmy.world
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#148 · Quote Reply

whenever there is breaking news, I always pop over to 4chan. They have videos, images, witnesses, and statements before any mainstream media.

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Pup Biru aussie.zone pupbiru@aussie.zone
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#149 · Quote Reply

Does it sound plausible from the perspective of a company that has probably at minimum thousands of accounts getting deleting or renamed per day? This seems like something that would have caused much bigger problems much earlier, just due to the number of people involved.

imo still very plausible… the key thing is deleted… accounts are rarely deleted, especially when they contain purchases and things like fortnight accounts do. more often than not, they’re suspended or just inactive which means the public ID remains used

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atropa piefed.social atropa@piefed.social
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#150 · Quote Reply

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yabbadabaddon lemmy.zip yabbadabaddon@lemmy.zip
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#151 · Quote Reply

And certain accounts in certain places known to be Epstein accounts are mysteriously active...

Source ?

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