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otter lemmy.dbzer0.com otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2023-11-18
#102 · Quote Reply

I would legit be happy if they spent 10 years eating rations in a concrete tomb.

Yes, but it's a question of cost: how many rations in each is sufficient to be effective bait while still being the most efficient use of resources, considering the advertised decade isn't actually the target timeline (or survival the intended effect) ? 😅🤓

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Honytawk discuss.tchncs.de Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2026-02-20
#103 · Quote Reply

No, you're inferring that while trying to lump them with an unrelated group of people.

How else should we interpret "Remember when Brian Thompson was killed and UnitedHealthcare suddenly dissolved?" if not as: "the idea that a single killing didn’t immediately result in the collapse of the for-profit healthcare system to imply that resistance is futile"

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Młody lemmy.world mlxdy@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-02-28
#104 · Quote Reply

In the place of 1000 richest people we will get just new 1000 richest people in that case.

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Formfiller lemmy.world Formfiller@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-03-12
#105 · (edited) Quote Reply

What would really happen Other greedy fucks and power hungry people would replace them. We need a sustainable way to stop this being possible, banishing the rich by itself wont do shit.

If they all got thrown into a woodchipper publicly for crimes against humanity while the public cheered I guarantee you’d find people being more hesitant to exhibit the same behaviors and we should abolish the accumulation of wealth above a certain amount

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presoak lazysoci.al presoak@lazysoci.al
Joined: 2025-11-29
#106 · Quote Reply

So who runs shit in utopia?

Godlike AIs of course.

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Formfiller lemmy.world Formfiller@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-03-12
#107 · Quote Reply

The trick is to brick up their bunkers from the outside once they've taken themselves inside.

Pour concrete in the air intake and over the entrances and exits

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87Six lemmy.zip 87Six@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-09-19
#108 · Quote Reply

You gonna fuck the air holes or something? This is the incident with the dolphins in Seaworld all over!

Nonono, it's synthetic

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WorldsDumbestMan lemmy.today WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today
Joined: 2024-12-05
#109 · Quote Reply

Yes, but it's a question of cost: how many rations in each is sufficient to be effective bait while still being the most efficient use of resources, considering the advertised decade isn't actually the target timeline (or survival the intended effect) ? 😅🤓

Just fill it with empty cans...

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Wilson lemmy.today Wilson@lemmy.today
Joined: 2026-02-18
#110 · Quote Reply

The death of literacy makes me sad. Edit: post is riddled with grammatical errors and fucking 'catastrophy' — yet I get downvoted. Read a book, something that actually had an editor — then keep reading more books. You will develop literacy eventually.

Language evolves. Don't be sad, be adaptive.

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nomy lemmy.zip nomy@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2024-12-06
#111 · Quote Reply

Language evolves. Don't be sad, be adaptive.

Language needs to be evolved by people who understand it though. Not by people too lazy to proofread.

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JcbAzPx lemmy.world JcbAzPx@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-06
#112 · Quote Reply

Language needs to be evolved by people who understand it though. Not by people too lazy to proofread.

That shows a fundamental misunderstanding of how language evolves.

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Okokimup lemmy.world Okokimup@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-24
#113 · Quote Reply

Emergency Skin by NK Jemisin

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Jax sh.itjust.works Jax@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-08-22
#114 · Quote Reply

That shows a fundamental misunderstanding of how language evolves.

None of you dipshits are going to convince me that 'catastrophy' is an evolution of the language. You are a fucking idiot if you believe that.

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nomy lemmy.zip nomy@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2024-12-06
#115 · Quote Reply

That shows a fundamental misunderstanding of how language evolves.

You just don't understand what I'm saying because I'm using the newly evolved form of the words.

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Xylian lemmy.world Xylian@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-02-24
#116 · Quote Reply

We don't have to totally change the system. They can keep making billions of dollars, we can just tax 99% of it. Maybe they'll pay their employees more, if they know it's only going to get taxed away anyhow. And if they don't, well just take it from them.

Yes this is the answer. No single persons should have this much money. Instead collectives like governments, corps and holdings should have the money. By doing so the governments are also able to control money flow and restrict unethical use cases.

But this would require governments working for the people, people voting parties that are doing stuff for them and not for corruption.
Also media outlets need a proper source of independent income to that opinion is not monopolized, which is the hardest in my opinion, because how most outlets are making money is by writing emotional articles so that they are clicked.

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BarneyPiccolo lemmy.today BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
Joined: 2025-06-30
#117 · Quote Reply

Yes this is the answer. No single persons should have this much money. Instead collectives like governments, corps and holdings should have the money. By doing so the governments are also able to control money flow and restrict unethical use cases. But this would require governments working for the people, people voting parties that are doing stuff for them and not for corruption. Also media ou...

My issue is when these people get so much money that they can start cutting personal deals with other nations that aren't in alignment with their own nation's values.

And what happens when a few trillionaires decide to form an alliance and create their own army, conquer territory, and create their own Libertarian Dream/Nightmare?

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Deacon lemmy.world deacon@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-13
#118 · Quote Reply

I bet those billionaires could make the system more efficient if they were properly motivated.

We know they’ve got great bootstraps.

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「黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui」(old account, migrated to Piefed) sh.itjust.works DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-06-23
#119 · Quote Reply

Plot Twist: Skynet was actually designed to kill the richest people alive, but the problem was once they died, there's another set of "richest people alive"... so that left Skynet only one option... it takes hearts of steel to make such an important decision...

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merc sh.itjust.works merc@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-09
#120 · Quote Reply

I still think it's preferable to eat them.

That machine looks like it would be a pain in the ass for food prep.

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merc sh.itjust.works merc@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-09
#121 · Quote Reply

Billionaires are the result of Capitalism, change the system, no more parasitic billionaires. Also chop off their heads.

"Billionaires" existed before capitalism, they were just called "Kings" or "Lords" or "Emperors" or "High Priests" or whatever.

The difference is that with capitalism at least they're producing something. Often they become billionaires because the regulations break down and they become monopolists. But, they're still producing something and selling it to someone.

"Billionaires" of the past were rich because they won the parental lottery and inherited vast amounts of land, and the people that worked that land. Or, occasionally, because they won a war against someone else who held land and now owned the people that other "billionaire" used to own.

I'm not saying capitalism is a great system. But, it didn't create wealth disparity. That has existed since even before agriculture. So, getting rid of capitalism isn't going to get rid of billionaires because they're a problem in every other system. In theory, you might not have billionaires under communism, but communism in theory doesn't seem to work. In practice, it results in billionaires too. In theory capitalism shouldn't have billionaires either because the government was supposed to regulate businesses to force them to continue to compete. But, wealth disparity is something that no political system has ever managed to actually get rid of.

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merc sh.itjust.works merc@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-09
#122 · Quote Reply

Anyone but the ones doing it for profit. I'd be up for a technocratie

And you think somehow the ones running it aren't going to concentrate wealth and power for themselves?

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merc sh.itjust.works merc@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-09
#123 · Quote Reply

There's a book, Survival of the Richest which is about these billionaires and their bunkers.

What's amusing about it is that these rich people obviously hate having to do anything for themselves. So, sure, they want to go to their doomsday bunkers. But, they also want to have a staff in that bunker who will serve all their needs. For some reason, they thought that Douglas Rushkoff (the author of the book) would know of some way that they could keep their staff in line once the world had ended.

They knew money would be useless, so they couldn't just pay their staff better. They knew threats wouldn't work because it's their security staff who carry the weapons and know how to use them. So, they were wondering how they could keep their staff from turning on them without the tools they normally use. Rushkoff had to explain to them that there really wasn't any way that they could expect to keep living as a rich person in a bunker or in a post-apocalytpic world.

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Koarnine pawb.social Koarnine@pawb.social
Joined: 2023-08-11
#124 · Quote Reply

"Billionaires" existed before capitalism, they were just called "Kings" or "Lords" or "Emperors" or "High Priests" or whatever. The difference is that with capitalism at least they're producing something. Often they become billionaires because the regulations break down and they become monopolists. But, they're still producing something and selling it to someone. "Billionaires" of the past were...

There's wealth disparity and then there's the wealth chasm of today, the disparity has grown so much in the last couple of decades beyond anything in human history.

The only reason it can is because of capitalism (neoliberalism, late stage capitalism).

The system incentivises and rewards the horrific behaviour that results in the disparity.

Also, pray tell, what are inheritocrats who made all their non-inherited money through stock markets producing?

As far as I can see, they're not producing anything, but are profiting off the backs of, and at the expense of, those that are producing the value.

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Aqarius lemmy.world Aqarius@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-14
#125 · Quote Reply

There's a book, Survival of the Richest which is about these billionaires and their bunkers. What's amusing about it is that these rich people obviously hate having to do anything for themselves. So, sure, they want to go to their doomsday bunkers. But, they also want to have a staff in that bunker who will serve all their needs. For some reason, they thought that Douglas Rushkoff (the author o...

What was that joke? "Libertarians, like house cats, are convinced of their fierce independence while utterly dependent on a system they neither understand nor appreciate".

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SparroHawc lemmy.zip SparroHawc@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-06-04
#126 · Quote Reply

The death of literacy makes me sad. Edit: post is riddled with grammatical errors and fucking 'catastrophy' — yet I get downvoted. Read a book, something that actually had an editor — then keep reading more books. You will develop literacy eventually.

Don't punish someone for practicing their art imperfectly. Instead of improving their craft, that only incentivizes them to stop practicing.

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merc sh.itjust.works merc@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-09
#127 · Quote Reply

There's wealth disparity and then there's the wealth chasm of today, the disparity has grown so much in the last couple of decades beyond anything in human history. The only reason it can is because of capitalism (neoliberalism, late stage capitalism). The system incentivises and rewards the horrific behaviour that results in the disparity. Also, pray tell, what are inheritocrats who made all t...

There's wealth disparity and then there's the wealth chasm of today,

You think the chasm today is as big as the gap between Augustus Caesar and a slave in Rome, or even a Roman plebian? Augustus Caesar's wealth is estimated at around $5 trillion in today's money.

The only way in which capitalism is responsible for wealth gaps is that it is tied to technological developments. In the modern world technology allows 1 farmer to feed hundreds of people. One century ago (also under capitalism) it was only about 4 people. More people who aren't farming means more labour to allocate to other things, which means more wealth can be concentrated at the top.

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Jax sh.itjust.works Jax@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-08-22
#128 · Quote Reply

Don't punish someone for practicing their art imperfectly. Instead of improving their craft, that only incentivizes them to stop practicing.

Practice makes permanent, if you've reached a point where you can make political commentary you are far beyond the point of learning to spellcheck.

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asg101 lemmy.blahaj.zone asg101@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2025-01-23
#129 · Quote Reply

There's a book, Survival of the Richest which is about these billionaires and their bunkers. What's amusing about it is that these rich people obviously hate having to do anything for themselves. So, sure, they want to go to their doomsday bunkers. But, they also want to have a staff in that bunker who will serve all their needs. For some reason, they thought that Douglas Rushkoff (the author o...

They are counting on robots.

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CheeseNoodle lemmy.world CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-14
#130 · (edited) Quote Reply

Do the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy version then. Load them all into a ship, tell them we've discovered a habitable planet and we're sending our best and brightest to start a new civilization, and fire them into space. Pretty sure you could at least get rid of Elon that way.

Hitchhiker’s Guide kinda did the opposite, the ark was filled with all the people doing the menial, boring and 'unimportant' jobs and the other 2 arks died out because they didn't know how to get basic shit done... well actually it was an un-sanitized telephone but thats how I read the metaphor.

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merc sh.itjust.works merc@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-09
#131 · Quote Reply

They are counting on robots.

Privately, I think they all know that the kinds of robots they'd need to fully replace their staff are not going to arrive within their lifetimes.

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WoodScientist lemmy.world WoodScientist@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-09-06
#132 · Quote Reply

Privately, I think they all know that the kinds of robots they'd need to fully replace their staff are not going to arrive within their lifetimes.

Worse. Any robot truly intelligent enough to completely replace humans is going to be as difficult to manage as actual humans. Even if such a robot doesn't flat out start demanding its freedom, you still have to worry about paperclip maximizer scenarios.

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WoodScientist lemmy.world WoodScientist@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-09-06
#133 · Quote Reply

In the place of 1000 richest people we will get just new 1000 richest people in that case.

Why would you assume they each only have one heir? Death is an incredibly effective means at wealth redistribution, as old rich fucks tend to have a lot of friends, family members, and causes they want to donate to.

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Reygle lemmy.world Reygle@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-20
#134 · (edited) Quote Reply

That machine looks like it would be a pain in the ass for food prep.

Odd how we imagine things differently. Your version is probably better than mine, which involves a still-beating heart.

OMM NOM SHIVA

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bless lemmy.ml bless@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2025-07-23
#135 · Quote Reply

Worse. Any robot truly intelligent enough to completely replace humans is going to be as difficult to manage as actual humans. Even if such a robot doesn't flat out start demanding its freedom, you still have to worry about paperclip maximizer scenarios.

Or more difficult. Depending on how resilient and strong the robot is made

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switcheroo lemmy.world switcheroo@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-08-01
#136 · Quote Reply

Maybe we should start a new worldwide tradition. Sacrifice the 500 richest people to the volcanoes every five years or so. Say it's to keep away Judgment Day or the astroids or something that the religious nutjobs will buy.

Then asshole parasites (aka billionaires) will stop hoarding to avoid being volcanoed.

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Bazell lemmy.zip Bazell@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-11-12
#137 · Quote Reply

Peak storytelling.

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Omgpwnies lemmy.world Omgpwnies@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-17
#138 · Quote Reply

Plot Twist: Skynet was actually designed to kill the richest people alive, but the problem was once they died, there's another set of "richest people alive"... so that left Skynet only one option... it takes hearts of steel to make such an important decision...

or, designed to only kill the current richest alive, but due to being bags of meat, cannot be reliably tracked to exact locations and thus anywhere they could be gets nuked...

just turns out that Skynet has determined that anywhere humans exist, a rich person could be hiding amongst them.

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blockheadjt sh.itjust.works blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2024-08-23
#139 · Quote Reply

But I'm not into vore.

The Fargo approach, then. Wood chipper.

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ObjectivityIncarnate lemmy.world damnedfurry@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-03-22
#140 · Quote Reply

Except that the only way you get everyone a baseline income of $75k is by taking it from the billionaires, thus reducing the gap much more substantially

you get everyone a baseline income of $75k is by taking it from the billionaires

Actually, no. That's a hypothetical for a reason; the entire net worth of all billionaires combined (assuming a magic wand could convert the net worth figure into an equivalent amount of cash, literally impossible in reality) wouldn't get everyone to $75k for even a single year.

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ObjectivityIncarnate lemmy.world damnedfurry@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-03-22
#141 · Quote Reply

In reply to an earlier post

What's the tax that prevents people from valuing your stuff highly? Because that's what net worth ultimately is: other people's valuation of what you own.

Don't hold your breath for any sort of 'maximum wealth' legislation to ever be a thing. It's an absurd idea on its face, and even if you could accomplish something like that, it wouldn't solve any of the problems you think it'd solve.

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otter lemmy.dbzer0.com otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2023-11-18
#142 · Quote Reply

Just fill it with empty cans...

Oh, man. A smorgasbord of all sorts of flavors and cuisines, as far as the eye can see... Only, they're silently, resolutely empty. Diabolical. 😱

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Aatube lemmy.world Aatube@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-05-23
#143 · Quote Reply

In reply to an earlier post

I'm pretty sure you've confused H2G2 with The Marching Martians

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