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Under British and UK Legislation anyone using or developing end-to-end encryption is now a “hostile actor”
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ArmchairAce1944 discuss.online ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online
Joined: 2025-07-02
#152 · Quote Reply

Fuck this shit. The UK is not longer a free country. And fuck Israel even more for their damned work over the decades to make this possible.

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jali67 lemmy.zip jali67@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-08-29
#153 · Quote Reply

Gee why does the capitalist oligopoly fear communication they can't monitor it's not like they are doing anything wrong and have anything to fear from little old us

I’m just baffled Labour is trying to die on this hill.

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sic_semper_tyrannis lemmy.today sic_semper_tyrannis@lemmy.today
Joined: 2024-03-28
#154 · Quote Reply

I found it: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/report-of-the-independent-reviewer-of-state-threats-legislation/report-of-the-independent-reviewer-of-state-threats-legislation-accessible It's an independent review of some UK laws concerning national security, and the reviewer is warning that the laws could be used against people unfairly. Note the last sentence of the section: "Serious r...

Awesome, thanks!

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douglasg14b lemmy.world douglasg14b@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-01
#155 · (edited) Quote Reply

The definition of E2EE has evolved since the concept surfaced. You seem to be stuck with the original meaning. TLS does not fit the modern definition.

Yes the technical term has evolved but did the term evolve in the legislation definition of it?

If not, then the technically correct usage doesn't matter which is a point I've made in another comment as well.

And in my previous comment, I am pointing out the logical inconsistencies. Not that I agree or disagree with the technical terminology. You seem to be conflating a logical explanation/call-out of logic holes for my opinion, which it is not

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1stQ feddit.org 1stQ@feddit.org
Joined: 2024-06-30
#156 · (edited) Quote Reply

There's a common saying in Germany that applies. Basically translates to: "Those Brits are crazy", but the literal translation would be: "The Brits are spinning" (yarn). Obelix knows best.

The spiders,
the Brits!
/s

What does it say in the original French version?

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floofloof lemmy.ca floofloof@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-06-16
#157 · Quote Reply

https has got to go

ROT13 too.

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floofloof lemmy.ca floofloof@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-06-16
#158 · Quote Reply

Even the US used to ban the export of strong encryption algorithms. You used to have to download the stronger encryption algorithms separately. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_Cryptography_Extension

I remember in the 1990s when you went to download Netscape you could only use the 40-bit encryption if you were in Europe, not the 128-bit encryption people in the USA could use.

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floofloof lemmy.ca floofloof@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-06-16
#159 · Quote Reply

I paid it, but the transaction was private. Have a nice day.

We got one! A terrorist right here!

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floofloof lemmy.ca floofloof@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-06-16
#160 · Quote Reply

I’m just baffled Labour is trying to die on this hill.

I think Labour is just trying to die.

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Etzello midwest.social Etzello@midwest.social
Joined: 2025-10-11
#161 · Quote Reply

What actual document is this?

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Etzello midwest.social Etzello@midwest.social
Joined: 2025-10-11
#162 · Quote Reply

I think Labour is just trying to die.

At this point it feels like they're being paid to make people vote for Reform who will then make great use of all the surveillance infrastructure that Labour and Tories have put in place

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Piperpiper1 lemmy.ml Piperpiper1@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2025-03-18
#163 · Quote Reply

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Does it say that explicitly in the document? I know that's the overall message they're getting at, but actually typing that out in the doc is darkly funny.

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incompetent programming.dev incompetent@programming.dev
Joined: 2024-11-16
#164 · Quote Reply

No of course. I meant that if at least one party in the UK gov is using signal, with end to end encryption, they are no longer using it because they are now considered ‘hostile actors’

Their favorite saying: "Rules for thee, not for me."

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Tayl feddit.org Tayl@feddit.org
Joined: 2026-02-01
#165 · Quote Reply

What actual document is this?

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/69411a3eadb5707d9f33d7e8/E03512978_-_Un-Act_The_National_Security_Act_in_2024_Accessible.pdf

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quick_snail feddit.nl quick_snail@feddit.nl
Joined: 2025-07-15
#166 · Quote Reply

Link to article?

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liking625 lemmy.world liking625@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-11-24
#167 · Quote Reply

When has the majority not been ignorant and inept? Back when societies collective knowledge was like 4 things?

to me when they defended their rights and prevented certain toxic people from staying in power

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Etzello midwest.social Etzello@midwest.social
Joined: 2025-10-11
#168 · Quote Reply

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/69411a3eadb5707d9f33d7e8/E03512978_-_Un-Act_The_National_Security_Act_in_2024_Accessible.pdf

Thank you, appreciate it

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Muscle_Meteor discuss.tchncs.de Muscle_Meteor@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2023-08-03
#169 · Quote Reply

to me when they defended their rights and prevented certain toxic people from staying in power

That doesnt mean they werent ignorant or inept, they were just aware of what was happening to them, and in most cases for rights it was only after decades or centuries of mistreatment. Its a reaction not a prevention.

As for toxic people in power, thats a lot harder to argue but toxic people enter and leave government all the time. It can be obvious sometimes who will be shit but theres only so many choices and again a significant portion of people are ignorant or inept.

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atlas lemmy.dbzer0.com lemmywinksthegerbilking@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2024-08-01
#170 · Quote Reply

the feds are so pissed they can't break encryption, which is essentially just math, are they gonna ban math?

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atlas lemmy.dbzer0.com lemmywinksthegerbilking@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2024-08-01
#171 · Quote Reply

Fuck this shit. The UK is not longer a free country. And fuck Israel even more for their damned work over the decades to make this possible.

it never has been a free country

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ArmchairAce1944 discuss.online ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online
Joined: 2025-07-02
#172 · Quote Reply

the feds are so pissed they can't break encryption, which is essentially just math, are they gonna ban math?

Isn't like building a basic encryption tool coding 101? I didn't build one when I was learning to code, but I did have to make a caesar cipher scrambler/unscrambler with python years ago. I don't have the code or remember how to do it, but does that make me a hostile actor now?

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ArmchairAce1944 discuss.online ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online
Joined: 2025-07-02
#173 · Quote Reply

it never has been a free country

Now that I think about it you are right.

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