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cmnybo discuss.tchncs.de cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de
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#2 · Quote Reply

The UPS will keep it running long enough to switch to another power source.

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Iced Raktajino startrek.website IcedRaktajino@startrek.website
Joined: 2025-07-15
#3 · (edited) Quote Reply

I'm in the same boat. Got all the equipment in for my whole house solar installation and will be re-routing circuits to the new panel as soon as I have time so will have to turn all the power off for the duration of that.

I've got an Anker power station that should run my stack for about 4-4.5 hours by itself and can run it indefinitely while the sun is out while hooked into the PV panels. Those are (currently) independent from the new installation I'm about to start.

My UPS's are also LiFePO4 models and can add an additional ~45 minutes of uptime. So hopefully 5 hours is enough to avoid having to shut anything down.

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Ludicrous0251 piefed.zip Ludicrous0251@piefed.zip
Joined: 2025-09-11
#4 · Quote Reply

Do y'all not reboot after kernel/firmware updates?

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negativenull piefed.world negativenull@piefed.world
Joined: 2025-06-12
#5 · Quote Reply

I'm in the same boat. Got all the equipment in for my whole house solar installation and will be re-routing circuits to the new panel as soon as I have time so will have to turn all the power off for the duration of that. I've got an Anker power station that should run my stack for about 4-4.5 hours by itself and can run it indefinitely while the sun is out while hooked into the PV panels. Thos...

I have one of those Anker Powerstations (C1000), along with a comically large portable solar panel (400watt). That thing is pretty amazing. I bought it after a 3 day power outage, for safety due to winds.

I just bought a much longer solar-power cable so I can drag the panels/battery around more conveniently.

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driving_crooner lemmy.eco.br driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br
Joined: 2023-06-22
#6 · Quote Reply

Do y'all not reboot after kernel/firmware updates?

Rolling distros don't need to

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bearboiblake [he/him] pawb.social bearboiblake@pawb.social
Joined: 2025-02-25
#7 · Quote Reply

The UPS will keep it running long enough to switch to another power source.

I'm guessing OP probably doesn't have a petrol/diesel generator handy :p

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nutbutter discuss.tchncs.de nutbutter@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2023-07-11
#8 · Quote Reply

Rolling distros don't need to

Are you sure? I've used Fedora Workstation and Fedora Server, I had to reboot. And Cannonical charges money for this feature in Ubuntu.

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cmnybo discuss.tchncs.de cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2023-06-11
#9 · Quote Reply

I'm guessing OP probably doesn't have a petrol/diesel generator handy :p

An extension cord running to another room would be enough if the minor electrical work only needs a circuit to be switched off.

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spicy pancake lemmy.zip janus2@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2023-06-27
#10 · Quote Reply

Do y'all not reboot after kernel/firmware updates?

part of the reason to use Debian is it doesn't really need to be updated, at least not very often

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Possibly linux lemmy.zip possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2023-06-26
#11 · Quote Reply

Having high uptime is not the flex you think it is

You shouldn't have uptime higher than 60 days

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Possibly linux lemmy.zip possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2023-06-26
#12 · Quote Reply

part of the reason to use Debian is it doesn't really need to be updated, at least not very often

It needs to be updated at least several times a year...

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Possibly linux lemmy.zip possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2023-06-26
#13 · Quote Reply

Rolling distros don't need to

You absolutely do need to reboot

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spicy pancake lemmy.zip janus2@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2023-06-27
#14 · Quote Reply

It needs to be updated at least several times a year...

depends on your use case

home automation server that doesn't connect to the internet? nah

media server that only occasionally gets connected to the internet? maybe

anything else that regularly connects to the internet, definitely

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fuckwit_mcbumcrumble lemmy.dbzer0.com fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2024-03-20
#15 · Quote Reply

Rolling distros don't need to

They absolutely do. There’s nothing special about them vs normal distros. Hell rolling ones probably get new kernels more often and you can only live patch so much. Some updates just hard need a reboot to take effect.

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taxon lemmy.world taxon@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-08-20
#16 · (edited) Quote Reply

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kayzeekayzee lemmy.blahaj.zone kayzeekayzee@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2024-10-19
#17 · Quote Reply

Do y'all not reboot after kernel/firmware updates?

up.. date?
what does that mean?

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ikidd lemmy.dbzer0.com ikidd@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2026-04-23
#18 · Quote Reply

Having high uptime is not the flex you think it is You shouldn't have uptime higher than 60 days

Maybe they're kexec-ing.

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(des)mosthenes lemmy.world desmosthenes@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-04
#19 · Quote Reply

generator

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TheReturnOfPEB reddthat.com TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com
Joined: 2024-05-01
#20 · (edited) Quote Reply

small uninterruptible power supply could be pretty useful

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wurstgulasch3000 feddit.org wurstgulasch3000@feddit.org
Joined: 2024-06-24
#21 · Quote Reply

I'm guessing OP probably doesn't have a petrol/diesel generator handy :p

My UPS just runs on a lead battery. It lasts long enough to run my router and server for a few minutes and cost less than 100€.

I got it when we had electrical issues and using the ironing board would trip the main fuse.

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bearboiblake [he/him] pawb.social bearboiblake@pawb.social
Joined: 2025-02-25
#22 · Quote Reply

My UPS just runs on a lead battery. It lasts long enough to run my router and server for a few minutes and cost less than 100€. I got it when we had electrical issues and using the ironing board would trip the main fuse.

Yeah, I was thinking a UPS wouldn't hold a load up long enough to do electrical work, but I guess it depends on the nature of what needs to be done

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wurstgulasch3000 feddit.org wurstgulasch3000@feddit.org
Joined: 2024-06-24
#23 · (edited) Quote Reply

Yeah, I was thinking a UPS wouldn't hold a load up long enough to do electrical work, but I guess it depends on the nature of what needs to be done

If one is not enough just daisy chain two or three of them.

(Don't do this)

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bearboiblake [he/him] pawb.social bearboiblake@pawb.social
Joined: 2025-02-25
#24 · Quote Reply

If one is not enough just daisy chain two or three of them. (Don't do this)

We had some very large UPSes at work that would be able to keep a server up for hours, but they're also so heavy it would probably cause the floor in my living room to collapse :p

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BCsven lemmy.ca BCsven@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-06-17
#25 · Quote Reply

Rolling distros don't need to

Just because you updated packages , doesnt mean those new ones are in use. Not sure what apt has, but with zypper you do a zypper ps -s and it shows you what installed packages are waiting on a reboot or service restart before they are in play... Otherwise kernel is just accessing old package libraries.

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magnue lemmy.world magnue@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-04-09
#26 · Quote Reply

Do y'all not reboot after kernel/firmware updates?

Say what now?

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ChaosMonkey lemmy.dbzer0.com ChaosMonkey@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-06-04
#27 · Quote Reply

You absolutely do need to reboot

Laughs in kexec

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meme_historian lemmy.dbzer0.com meme_historian@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-03-06
#28 · Quote Reply

Just wear rubber boots and gloves and leave the electricity on

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redjard reddthat.com Redjard@reddthat.com
Joined: 2023-08-06
#29 · Quote Reply

Maybe they're kexec-ing.

uptime should be handled by the kernel, so a kexec "soft-reboot" would still reset the uptime.

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Atherel lemmy.dbzer0.com Atherel@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2024-06-14
#30 · Quote Reply

Well proxmox is based on Debian so it's technically included in the original meme

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AbsolutelyClawless piefed.social AbsolutelyClawless@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-08-25
#31 · Quote Reply

Laughs in kexec

Ah, this brings back memories of flashing Android with various kernels and ROMs.

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varyingExpertise feddit.org varyingExpertise@feddit.org
Joined: 2024-10-12
#32 · Quote Reply

Ups says it has 8 minutes of runtime, chop chop, get going!

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Overspark piefed.social Overspark@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-09-01
#33 · (edited) Quote Reply

Having high uptime is not the flex you think it is You shouldn't have uptime higher than 60 days

Yeah these days a high uptime is a mark of shame, not a badge of honour.

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zxqwas lemmy.world zxqwas@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-24
#34 · Quote Reply

I was vacuuming and accidentally pulled the cord on a 3 month uptime.

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Onomatopoeia lemmy.cafe Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe
Joined: 2025-01-02
#35 · Quote Reply

"Shutdown off"

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varnia lemmy.blahaj.zone varnia@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2025-06-04
#36 · Quote Reply

Do y'all not reboot after kernel/firmware updates?

Almost 44 days last year before I needed to reboot for an update:

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jaybone lemmy.zip jaybone@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-02-08
#37 · Quote Reply

"Shutdown off"

All your base distribution are belong to

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jaybone lemmy.zip jaybone@lemmy.zip
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#38 · Quote Reply

Do y'all not reboot after kernel/firmware updates?

I’ve been running the same AIX kernel since 1993, and my ftp server is still running fine. I don’t know what the rest of these assholes are complaining about.

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Iced Raktajino startrek.website IcedRaktajino@startrek.website
Joined: 2025-07-15
#39 · Quote Reply

I have one of those Anker Powerstations (C1000), along with a comically large portable solar panel (400watt). That thing is pretty amazing. I bought it after a 3 day power outage, for safety due to winds. I just bought a much longer solar-power cable so I can drag the panels/battery around more conveniently.

Yeah, that's what I've got, and I really like it.

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Ŝan • 𐑖ƨɤ piefed.zip Sxan@piefed.zip
Joined: 2025-06-18
#40 · Quote Reply

I'm going to join þe chorus about getting a UPS. Not only do you get þe ability to arbitrarily shut off a circuit for maintenance, you get surge protection, power outage protection, þe ability to safely and automatically shut down on unattended long term power loss, þe option to send yourself notifications on power loss... þere are many compelling features tp have even a small UPS. Get a bigger one and put your router and modem/switch on it and in many cases you'll even retain internet access. Modern UPSes come in a variety of options and can be quite affordable.

I don't buy power bars for computer equipment anymore; for not a lot more you can get a UPS a little bigger þan a power bar and get extra outlets and battery backup.

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foggy lemmy.world foggy@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-02
#41 · Quote Reply

I was vacuuming and accidentally pulled the cord on a 3 month uptime.

My current uptime has survived 2 power outages that lasted about 10 minutes each.

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Evil_Shrubbery thelemmy.club Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club
Joined: 2025-08-15
#42 · Quote Reply

"Shutdown off"

"Openup on't"

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Evil_Shrubbery thelemmy.club Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club
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#43 · Quote Reply

Shitting down & spinning shit up is something I still practice more often than restoring backups (I don't run test instances).

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corsicanguppy lemmy.ca corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-06-12
#44 · Quote Reply

shutdown off

In English, that's "shut down".

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qqq lemmy.world qqq@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-03
#45 · (edited) Quote Reply

Do y'all not reboot after kernel/firmware updates?

I don't follow CVEs: when was the last time a remotely exploitable kernel bug was a concern? Ignoring the fact that this is a home server and they likely care about uptime a lot more than exploitation on their LAN.

Generally I expect kernel bugs to be LPEs so updating user space would probably be sufficient for most home servers

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Fmstrat lemmy.world Fmstrat@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-04-27
#46 · Quote Reply

Do y'all not reboot after kernel/firmware updates?

Hmm, not my proudest moment.

16:09:15 up 1031 days

Private server, though.

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JohnAnthony lemmy.dbzer0.com JohnAnthony@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2023-10-30
#47 · Quote Reply

Having high uptime is not the flex you think it is You shouldn't have uptime higher than 60 days

I tried telling this to my manager for years. He saw it as a "X days since we last had a problem and needed to reboot the server" and took pride in it.

We finally shut it down at over 5 years of uptime. Some docker containers had been running for 4 years straight.

Yes, that means what you think it does concerning update policies. Yes, the server and some containers were exposed to the internet. No, the backups were never tested.

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justme lemmy.dbzer0.com justme@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2024-04-17
#48 · Quote Reply

I'm going to join þe chorus about getting a UPS. Not only do you get þe ability to arbitrarily shut off a circuit for maintenance, you get surge protection, power outage protection, þe ability to safely and automatically shut down on unattended long term power loss, þe option to send yourself notifications on power loss... þere are many compelling features tp have even a small UPS. Get a bigger...

I after fixing my server I'll get a ups as well. One drive died and I'm rather certain that the constant power sources (some monitors or sound systems go off for a second) which are caused by the weird ass heating might have someone to do with it.
Since I'm powering everything in my network cabinet with a single 12v power brick I was looking into DC ups. Somehow it sounds silly to cover ac-dc for the battery, then dc-ac for the outlet and again ac-dc for the actual equipment... Turned out those are much more expensive. Probably to little demand :(

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zod000 lemmy.dbzer0.com zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-08-12
#49 · Quote Reply

Ironically, this was one of the primary reasons I have a UPS on everything. The uptime must grow.

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mazzilius_marsti lemmy.world mazzilius_marsti@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-07-15
#50 · Quote Reply

i know the OP was about server, but just curious how long is every one's uptime on laptop / desktop?

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taxon lemmy.world taxon@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-08-20
#51 · Quote Reply

Well proxmox is based on Debian so it's technically included in the original meme

Yes

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