Even back then I thought she looked like she was freezing.

“Gene Roddenberry’s vision” was usually an upskirt shot.

Does Twitter or whatever have a La Forge emoji or something?

Captain Jellico's "put on a real uniform" command was written in at Marina's request.

I love her. She's the queen of TMI during Q&A's. Like when she casually dropped that before she met her now husband, she "slept" with just about every single guest star. What a legend.

Slack has one. :geordi-laforge: so it wouldn't surprise me if twitter does too.

Oh, she ate pussy for breakfast?

Smart move. Even by 1989's standards and fashions, some of the costumes they put her in were hideous.

I mean yeah... It's cold in space.

It wasn't just the dress, it was those knee-high boots that made critics call her an intergalactic cheerleader.

In the first season that dress was also worn by men... How woke...

The very last scene in Encounter at Farpoint, Yar is also wearing the minidress uniform, AFAIK it's the only scene with her in it. The camera zooms in from about where it is above into a close-up of Picard, and Denise Crosby very pointedly steps out of shot partway through.

I have to wonder if that scene wasn't the first shot actually filmed, if they weren't planning on just, having all the women in crotch-length miniskirts until they had a couple shots in the can.

"Dress was so short that you could see what I had for breakfast" is such an amazing turn of words

We just needed more men in the knee-high boots

There's no kind of atmosphere 🎶

We’re all alone, more or less

And no underwear

I think it's added in because of the hashtag, unfortunately not an emoji you can use whenever you want

Does "slept" have yet another meaning, or were they all just playing make-believe?

Hmm, yeah, it is probably some browser extension or something that added it to that screenshot. It is definitely not present in the original post

https://web.archive.org/web/20211205215519/https://twitter.com/Marina_Sirtis/status/1310707416770592768

I'm quite fond of the long dress she got for one season. I'm sure it was hell as a costume, but I thought it looked tasteful. I also have the idea that the psychological/psychiatric lead on the ship ought to look somewhat "different" when she's working. Her uniform should be more casual, because her role is one where you want people to be able to get away from the structure, and to trust her confidentiality. The catsuits were dumb, and the Farpoint / S1 miniskirt was scandalous. but I did like the full-length dress.

Which wasn't helped by Berman.

Yeah for all the equality and tech it’s stupid to have women running around in skirts.
Star Trek always portrayed an ideal future but always failed in one way or another. Tng is also the one Star Trek i couldn’t get into, tried for a season and it was bad. I hear it gets better but I can’t watch a show that takes years to get good

More like grasping at anything to be progressive.

It was transparent at the time, kinda cringey actually.

At least ToS focused more on the Greek morality play part, though it had cringe transparent moments too.

There's a fine line between exploring ideas and preaching, so I tend to give them some leeway - but damn if TnG didn't rub me the wrong way from the start with the stupid costumes.

Men wore that outfit it was unisex I'm to lazy to link a image ore a dozen right now but tng was pretty inclusive vs the og series

Yes, that's one of the already-existing meanings I alluded to in my comment. It's also never written with quotation marks.

The mystery deepens!

They had male crew in those skirts too though, to be fair.

, tried for a season and it was bad.

which season? try 5. EDiT : at least the darmok episode?

Let me fly, far away from here,

I think just one shot, a guy in the hallway walking in the background.

But crucially, not by anyone in the main male cast. They threw a few skants on to a couple of male extras to forestall accusations of sexism. A figurative (and and near literal) figleaf.

Frankly, a unisex, utilitarian kilt would probably have worked a lot better for gals and guys, but someone got greedy for “underbutt” and ended up with an outfit so disliked that it was quickly phased out.

In fact it’s cold as h*ll

This has to be bait.

Otherwise congrats on being the 1st person ever I've seen online to prefer Voyager, TOS, Picard, and Disco to TNG.

Pretty much every "show off the attractive female main character" outfit that they've invented for Trek has not worked for me. Troi's outfits, Seven's outfits, T'pol's outfits... I think that actually the only exception is the Farpoint miniskirt and even then it just looks attractive but I don't like what it meant for Troi's brains so all things being equal I actually like her the most in the standard uniform jumpsuit which is, quite frankly, already designed to make people look good.

Now that we're decades away from the show and everybody involved has been interviewed a bunch of times, what I actually wish we could have seen was Troi as the diplomatic counselor instead of the vague psychological lead / poorly utilized character that we got. Because if she was the ship's therapist the long dress would work because it is tasteful and different yet still professional, but then we'd not be seeing her on the bridge the way we did.

"Not just the men, but the women and..."

You're a better man (I assume) than me. My young self very much appreciated Sevens outfit back in the day. Although I have to admit, the episode where she travels back in time to the Voyager in dry dock and wears the science uniform plus a ponytail was also a great look for her.

I mean, Voyager is also my favorite Trek, but I would place both STD and Picard at the bottom of the list. But I only watched TOS in stretches.

This guy?

Yeah, he was just a freak, the rest of the time they wear it with pants

My teenage self had no complaints about Troi's uniforms.

Fair take. Trying to include a moral lesson is like walking a tightrope: it's cool when it feels like a natural part of the story or world-building, but it's sooo cringy when it feels like a direct lecture from the writers to you.

TNG does get more subtle, but it also does have occasional moments that practically feel like He-Man turning to camera at the end of the show to tell you why drugs are bad or crime doesn't pay.

I can believe it if they stopped early enough. Season 1 is pretty rough.

Then start at season 2.

I wish I could get one of those outfits too.

Ahhhh, ok. Now it clicked.

I was starting to forget why I have you tagged "Insufferable Pedant" in Voyager. Thanks for the refresher.

And it's still more modest than a lot of what gets worn today.

I've posted this before.

My head canon is that when a new civilization joins the Federation, they get to pick the new Starfleet uniforms. The Betazeds gave us the TOS miniskirts.