Fair. Gumby is actually flexible on positions.

Lmfao do you think either is a pissrahelli invention??? Of course I check where my groceries come from 😂 that is such a basic action

Lmao wait, there are conspiracy theorists on lemmy?

I hope you’re voting in your state’s Democratic primary or better, nominating yourself as an independent candidate from AIPAC! That is of course if you’re even American… ?

Do you know how Primaries work?

Kaplan cannot be removed from the admin team.

Every other major admin has stepped down in the past few months or taken massive steps back. Kaplan is effectively all that there is left. Thats why these actions were taken instantly and without any deliberation. Kaplan has no one to answer to anymore. @Ruud@lemmy.world just handed over total control of the instance. Whether or not Ruud wanted to remake reddit, he certainly has.

You cannot be against Zionism and support Ukraine at the same time.

fucking watch me.

Yeah but also usually just stay on lemmy.world and piefed

the democrats held a farce of a primary in 2024. my own turbo-zionist rep ran unopposed and all the people voting 'uncommitted' were actively ignored at the federal level

sabara is dog vomit and i generally buy greek or lebanese tahini around here

Yeah people vote and if it doesn't go in the way the establishment wants then superdelegates can correct for the general publics error. See e.g. what happened to the zionist bernie sanders.

Are sure you want people to start pulling that thread?

It's been happily acceptable as long as not directed towards the wrong people.

please go ahead and provide references

Why would they be factual when the point is to obscure what's happening

please share where jordan is calling for people to be murdered.

It is quite interesting to me that the only thing you're responding to here is something that you think is a gotcha.

Once again, Kap, I already did that work quite a while ago. You read it. You decided to do nothing about it. Need a reminder? Check your DMs on discord. We talked about this at fucking length. Your total lack of action on the situation was what led to me leaving lemmy.world, refusing to ever post on another community again at a top level, and have moved to another instance entirely.

Proof? Strong evidence even? Vaguely pointing to sanders (for whom I voted) does not mean anything -- which is why Bernie Sanders himself continues to caucus with Democrats and does not adopt your approach, including but not limited to the likes of Mamdani, AOC, etc.

Why didn't you run against or support someone else to run against own turbo-zionist rep who went unopposed?

That's not a sign of a broken system; that's unfortunately a sign of good people doing nothing -- which is what I'm advocating for here. Sitting out only lets evil run rampant.

Agreed on the hummus.

If I was regularly chatting with people who call for killing me, I would have a very high blood pressure.

Yes, that's why most sane instances blocked .ml

But we're talking about a single person who lost it, not the entire instance rebelling against lemmy.world or something. You're not just punishing the person who did it, but everyone else on that instance.

Shit, I didn't know the .world admin situation wad so bleak. Anyone with any sense should leave, because of the Zionism, but because it's clearly not being well managed, in general.

Tbh, a balkanization of .World would be good for the Fediverse. Everyone jumped on it after the Reddit API exodus, it became too centralized ¯_(ツ)_/¯

i just searched through our conversations for mentions of murder, kill, israel, zion or palest, and there is nothing relevant.

you just claimed that jordan was calling for people to be murdered, so please provide references for this.

i don't remember everything we've talked about and i'm not going to read through everything again, but you clearly seem to know what you're referring to, so that should be easy to find. i doubt that this exists in the first place, and if it does, it was likely acted on already.

i'm fully aware that there are other issues you have with jordan, but since you brought up claims of calling for murder, let's focus on that.

After getting a better look at the background, this seems like a misstep.

Agreed that Luminous was not exhibiting behavior that seemed becoming of an admin (borrowing the terms of the db0 folks, they appear to be a bit of a "shit stirrer") but it doesn't look like there was any direct call to violence towards Kaplan, as this whole debacle seems to imply.

Luminous is no longer an admin, so I don't see why the defederation of anarchist.nexus needs to continue (given that its initial justification is already questionable). The main takeaway is that the admin team of Lemmy.world (or maybe just Kaplan, I don't know who all the admins are) seem to be taking criticism of Zionism personally...which to me sounds easily solved by simply not being Zionists.

So, if the LW team are not Zionists, I don't see why they shouldn't just come out and say so, but then I guess I don't see any other reason why someone would take a "death to Zionists" tagline personally.

You sure you want people giving you proof, since you won't accept it anyway?

if you're not going to provide any references just say so instead of beating around the bush

Ahhhahaha pots and kettles all the way down.

Yep.

If the instigating reason has been removed from the situation, then why is this rollout contining?

And I played a part in that and will, forever, be apologetic for that.

When I left Startrek.website, I chose lemmy.world because I was friends with an admin of the instance at the time but I wasn't really plugged into all that was going on on the fediverse. I'm also aware of the numbers that I helped drag into lemmy.world with the creation of Tenforward@lemmy.world

It's also why I created !Risa@lemmy.dbzer0.com. To try and undo some of the damage. I asked Picard and co to move over but they were unwilling due to a concern of fragmenting the community. I respect their decision and not giving them flak for it but I really wish that they had joined me over here. Lemmy.world is going far beyond the pale with this petty behavior.

No.

You are not being given an opportunity to change the moment, narrative, or this conversation.

The information was posted months ago. You read it all and made your decision. That conversation ended months ago when you made your decision. We are not talking about Jordan now, we're talking about the fact that you personally are going on a petty vendetta and attacking two instances due to the behavior of a user that is no longer an admin.

But, again, it is really interesting how you're more willing to talk about Jordan now than you are about your own indefensible behavior. You are acting on something that happened days ago with zero consideration of any update since. You are in the wrong. Pay attention to every user here who has had input, respond to them and stop picking and choosing responses that you think you're going to be able to win. You will not.

Then why don't you take your own advice?

If you aren't going to provide any references on the behavior of dbzer0 administration and the reason for considering defederation with them (For the actions of a user of another instance who is no longer a moderator) then just say so instead of beating around the bush.

If you are on lemmy.world, you already couldn't from before this decision. Lemmy.world also has hexbear, and lemmygrad defederated (as do many others). Anarchist.nexus itself is a pretty small instance with only like 12 comms and a small userbase if that contextualises anything here.

yeah let me just conjure shitloads of money i don't have to run against a hostile party within their own apparatus instead of my day job. very reasonable suggestion.

the system is beyond broken, blaming that on individuals does nothing but make you feel better

also one of your earlier responses was extremely off-putting. you called armed resistance to occupation 'legitimate war crimes' while describing actual genocide that the democrats were complicit in as 'disproportionate acts' which you attributed to the machinations of one individual.

equating the oppressed with their oppressors and blaming individuals is something that makes it hard for me to want to engage with liberals with anything other than hostility

https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/32806014

https://lemmy.world/post/36621226

https://lemmy.world/post/35918814

https://lemmy.world/post/12468746/7942028

https://lemmy.world/post/41560809/21534428

https://lemmy.world/post/14235015/9346725

https://lemmy.world/post/6550602/4346950

https://lemmy.world/post/26565059/15562842

https://lemmy.world/post/43799556/22449214

https://lemmy.world/post/41560809/21534428

https://lemmy.world/post/6550602/4346950

https://lemmy.world/post/41307441/21430091 Calling for wars on other countries

https://lemmy.world/comment/19773128 - you literally claiming to not know about "from river to the sea"

https://lemmy.world/post/18857058

https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/48096338

Making light of Israel pager terrorist attacks and implying more need do be killed https://lemmy.world/post/19923025/12436044

Calling Russians orcs and describing how to kill them https://lemmy.world/post/26007806/15299902

Oh and another zionist mod doing questionable things in defense of Israel: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/49553295

https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/45247124

https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/36047491

And interesting this is the comment you replied to. Must really have hit a nerve saying it's always happening

Sorry but that sounds like a bunch of excuses from choosy beggars.

How do you think AOC or Bernie Sanders got their start? They certainly weren't rich; nor did they take from special interests. From Mamdani to Talarico, people are stepping up! Are you? Be the change you want to see in the world!

choosy beggars

some of us have to worry about paying rent and shit, believe it or not there's not a lot of institutional backing for trans anarchists in electoral politics, just genocidal warmongers

you just sound out of touch

Right??

Also for Jordan, not looking at the modlog

https://lemmy.world/post/12513108/7978972

https://lemmy.world/post/18470868/11713672

This one cherry picking, but so did Kaplan "no one cares are 1940s" https://lemmy.world/post/11472248/7227437

I'll repeat the deflected:

How do you think AOC or Bernie Sanders got their start? They certainly weren't rich; nor did they take from special interests. From Mamdani to Talarico, people are stepping up! Are you? Be the change you want to see in the world!

lol what, do you think rent was cheap for AOC and Sanders?

there’s not a lot of institutional backing for trans anarchists in electoral politics, just genocidal warmongers

Gee, I wonder why. Not only can they not muster any candidates whatsoever or attract anyone by the power of their ideas, they also don't seem to play nicely with others either.

i love how the two major examples of outsiders you present both routinely vote for funding the genocidal ethnostate and they're also considerably more moderate than i am. social democrats - compatible with empire.

i don't view electoralism as something worth participating in, because it's a bourgeois farce.
i'm not interested in playing nice with hitlerite liberals

Idk what to tell you. Choosy beggar who literally made up excuses why they can't run and that their ideology is very unpopular and they cannot persuade people to support them in any sort of numbers.

I think you're online way too much.

Don't engage in it; refuse to do something to actually change or fix. Sit on pyrrhic positions in what is effectively nihilism at best; accelerationist at worst.

Almost more dangerous than a Trump supporter.

Oh, and Slava Ukraini?

FWIW, Hamas is not the only resistance group in Palestine, just the most prominent in Gaza. There are other secular/socialist resistance groups in Palestine who aren't trying to establish an Islamic theocracy that are probably more deserving of support.

If I had my own Piefed instance I would defed from

1. Hexbear
2. ML
3. World
4. SJW
5. Discuss Online
6. Feddit.org

You can use instances like Feddit.uk and Lemmy.today if you can’t stand any defed.

Feddit.uk, lazysoci.al, scribe.disroot.org and Lemmy.today

Beehaw has respectably defederated from nazi SJW.

We need to take our comms and push them to reddthat, disroot and lazysocial.

I'll repeat the deflected:

don't be petulant

I think you’re online way too much.

trust me, arguing with hitlerite liberals and voting is the least of my political activity; certainly not interested in talking about what i do with people like you though.

accelerationist at worst.

from my perspective people like you are the accelerationists; you prevent any positive change and insist everyone vote for your preferred genocidal warmongers as the full scope of political activity while the world burns

Slava Ukraini?

gesundheit

I'm aware and most support hamas, like e.g. the popular front for the liberation of Palestine

I prefer attentive.

If you actually believed this, that running against zionist reps within the democratic party is doable and a viable strategy, and aren't, then the only reasonable conclusion is that you are putting together your campaign or agree with the turbozionism of the dem establishment.

Why is this criticism only ever directed at others? I really only see these options

• you have a campaign
• you don't actually believe what you are saying
• you are very lazy and just hope that others do the work
• you actually agree with the genocidal dem establishment and see no reason to oppose them

or you agitate outside, that's how the zionist mamdani got elected. It was a ton of effort that took place mostly outside the dem establishment but as soon as they went inside the zionism started to creep in.

Organize with the PSL.

thank you for actually following up.

https://lemmy.world/post/12513108/7978972
https://lemmy.world/post/18470868/11713672

These cases are not about murder, but death sentences following due process. While it's not exactly the same, it's still calling for violence, even if it's in a more civilized and more commonly accepted way. Murder generally refers to unlawful killings.

I will take this to our team to discuss. Although I'm personally against death penalties, as I don't believe anyone can be trusted with this power as it will absolutely get abused and mistakes will be made, I think discussion surrounding death penalties in general should be allowed, provided there is due process involved. Discussion without referencing specific cases is also not easily possible. This is something that can be difficult to define, as for example Israel also claims there to be due process for the Palestinians they execute and lawfulness can often be quickly changed in favor of the acting regime.

https://lemmy.world/post/11472248/7227437

This is definitely a comment that could have been phrased a lot better, but I don't see how this could even remotely be considered a call for violence.

Lol, The FAF takes weeks of deliberation, and a public vote to defederate feddit.org and we still get shit about being "authoritarians" or "manipulative". L.W. just YOLO defederated an anarchist instance on the flimsiest excuse and...crickets.